Alcohol, someone explain this article to me please?
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Is there a problem guys?
Avoiding shaitan is avoiding his works. His works are the rijs ,so it is avoiding the rijs.
590 is just saying avoid the rijs which is from the works of shaitan that are mentioned in the verse.
GOD bless you.
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peace,
with leading alif denotes a repeated action- needs to be specific — avoids “him” is not
- masculine plurals are feminine “ha” not “hu”
590-91 ىاىها O you الذىن the ones امنوا believes ye of انما solely الخمر the inebriant والمىسر and the wager والانصاب and the monuments (altars for sacrifice) والازلم and the arrows (superstition divining) رجس filthiness من from عمل work الشىطن the devil فاجتنبوه so avoids ye it (spiritual uncleanliness) لعلكم perhaps you تفلحون succeeding انما solely ىرىد intended الشىطن the devil ان that ىوقع cause بىنكم between you العداوه the hostility والبغضا and the animosity فى in الخمر the inebriant والمىسر and the wager وىصدكم and hinder you عن about ذكر remembrance الله the God وعن and about الصلوه the connection (prayer) فهل so can انتم is/are you منتهون who ceasing?
obviously getting drunk and gambling leads to hostility, fighting, and loss of wealth, health, etc.
lifestyle of avoidance and spiritual cleanliness
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فاجتنبوا so avoids ye of الرجس the filthiness من from الاوثن the fetishes (idols)
واجتنبوا and avoids ye of قول speech الزور the false3917 والذىن and the ones اجتنبوا avoids they of الطغوت the false idols ان lest ىعبدوها worshipped they them
4237 والذىن and the ones ىجتنبون avoiding كبىر greater الاثم the detriment والفوحش and the immoralities واذا and when of ما that غضبوا angry they of هم themselves ىغفرون are forgiving
4912 ىاىها O you الذىن the ones امنوا believes ye of اجتنبوا avoids ye of كثىرا much of من from الظن the assumption ان indeed بعض some الظن the assumption اثم detriment (harmful)
5332 الذىن the ones ىجتنبون avoiding كبىر greater الاثم the detriment والفوحش and the immoralities الا except اللمم the small faults ان indeed ربك lord your واسع extensive المغفره the forgiveness
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Salam.
I don't see anything wrong with the translation of 590 being "the devil"
Here is what the verse says "Intoxicants, Gambling, Altars, and Arrows of chance are foul by the work of the devil"
These things in of themselves are not "foul" - it is the work of the devil than makes them such.
You cannot make the "avoid" to apply to the "foulness" - you can only make it apply to the "devil" or his "work" (or both).
Well... I agree part of what is stated by you... Yes we can't avoid RIJS.. coz it is not an action basically... We can remove RIJS.. It is consequence of an action / work... RIJS is impurity /defilement and it has deep rooted meaning through Quran..but not physical impurity..
Meanwhile we can't avoid Satan as well.. It is not in our hand to avoid physical satan.. He will come behind you and in front of you and he will inspire you with all he can and he is a seasoned campaigner for such... Honestly tailor made to deceive.. So we can't avoid Satan...
What we can do is follow what is truth so we avoid the works of evil / SATAN inspire evil .I recommend all believers to read all SATAN verses in Quran.. I am sure all of you will get clarified if you read all verses of Satan (8. Main weapon of Satan is DECEPTION and EVIL against built in truth of God..
Tell me anyone how to avoid Satan? .. I am sure no one can reply unless they say avoid such and such WORK... Or tell me how to avoid RIJS? Same reply..For example if one avoids idols he in fact kept away from RIJS thus not followed Satan's Works..
Is there a problem guys?
Avoiding shaitan is avoiding his works. His works are the rijs ,so it is avoiding the rijs.
590 is just saying avoid the rijs which is from the works of shaitan that are mentioned in the verse.
GOD bless you.
Peace.@GL...
No issues brother... These are called clarification... And not compromise... those who follow Quran alone always listen and use intelligence for their own clarification... They never opt another human book and compromise...
Note... Even a believer in this case say in this verse it meant SATAN or RIJS or WORKS... It doesnt matter... It won't affect their faith... As long as they don't reach another source... God will they will get clarified with what is truth soon..
So.. AVOID works /amal of SATAN so you impulsively kept away RIJZ and Satan in life.. If you not avoid works, then you worshipped SATAN thus you became RIJS...
Thank you...
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While individuals may prioritize the Quran for clarification, it is important to recognize that consulting other sources can enrich understanding. Engaging with additional human books does not necessarily imply compromise or weaken faith. Different interpretations and scholarly discussions contribute to a comprehensive understanding of the Quranic message.
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While individuals may prioritize the Quran for clarification, it is important to recognize that consulting other sources can enrich understanding. Engaging with additional human books does not necessarily imply compromise or weaken faith. Different interpretations and scholarly discussions contribute to a comprehensive understanding of the Quranic message.
2185 " .... revealed the Qur'an, a guidance for the people and clear proofs for the guidance and criterion. .... "
God must be kidding by saying above.. Isn't it... So to enrich comprehensive understanding human book is mandatory ..so human can explain better guidance and proofs for guidance and criterion... Isn't it?
In the name of comprehensive enrichment don't get trapped by discarding God's true mesaage... Literally that's what has happened with conventional Muslims sadly... They don't follow Quran at all.. It's not my statement merely.. It's evidence.. How? It is my own personal experience.. Coz wasn't I a conventional Muslim once upon a time... Didnt I know whether I followed Quran or not? I never followed Quran.. If I recollect all what I did, all I did was mocking Quran... But I did all what they still do... If that is right let them do.... Coz they have freedom.. But I am free from their works..Compromise is what they wanted when Quran was revealing so that they can bring another book... They didn'tike quran do they wanted make Mohamed a close friend so that they will hear what they prefer...
No compromise with faith... Coz our faith is in Quran alone.. But we respect people and their tradition and Whateve r good they do... We are human.. But no compromise with Quran that's our life line...Human invented books can be compromised for better enrichment but not with God's book.. We always looked for better books better teachers while we study at college.. That's true.. For comprehensive enrichment... But all we looked for are human invented books and human knowledge... Here God's book purpoae is utterly different...
Thank you... Keep enriching.. But ensure to follow a path in constant manner...
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Thank you for expressing your thoughts on the Quran and the importance of adhering strictly to its teachings. I appreciate your passion and dedication to following the Quran as your life line.
While it is true that the Quran is a divine guidance and criterion, it is also important to recognize the value of human interpretation and understanding. The Quran itself encourages critical thinking, reflection, and the pursuit of knowledge. Human books and knowledge can indeed complement our comprehension of the Quran's message, as long as they are approached with the intention of enriching our understanding, not diluting or discarding the true message of God.
While your personal experiences have shaped your perspective, it's essential to remember that individuals may have different approaches to their faith and understanding of the Quran. It is not for us to judge or mock those who interpret the Quran differently. Respect for others' traditions and beliefs is crucial, even if we have divergent viewpoints.
As for compromise, it is important to strike a balance between staying true to the Quran and respecting the diversity within the Muslim community. While our faith is rooted in the Quran, we can still engage in fruitful dialogue and learning from others without compromising our core beliefs.
Let us continue on our journey of enrichment and understanding, while also fostering respect and open-mindedness. Together, we can strive to follow a path of constant growth and adherence to our faith.
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It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allah dislike it.2185
The month of Ramaḍān in which was revealed the Qur’ān, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion. So whoever sights the month,1 let him fast it; and whoever is ill or on a journey - then an equal number of other days. Allāh intends for you ease and does not intend for you hardship and for you to complete the period and to glorify Allāh for that which He has guided you; and perhaps you will be grateful. -
While individuals may prioritize the Quran for clarification, it is important to recognize that consulting other sources can enrich understanding. Engaging with additional human books does not necessarily imply compromise or weaken faith. Different interpretations and scholarly discussions contribute to a comprehensive understanding of the Quranic message.
As long as your idol scholars only use the Quran or other books sent down by Allah to gain understanding, then that's fine. It just like what we have on the most topic in this forum.
Problems will arise if your idol scholars use books like hadiths of Bukhori etc, to gain understanding from the Quran. They and those who follow them will be subject to the following verses
544 We have sent down the Taurat, in it is a guidance and a light; the prophets who have submitted judged with it for those who are Jewish, and the Rabbis, and the Priests, for what they were entrusted of the Book of God, and they were witness over. So do not be concerned with the people but be concerned with Me; and do not purchase with My revelations a cheap price. And whoever does not judge with what God has sent down, then these are the rejecters.
545 And We have decreed for them in it that a life for a life, and an eye for an eye, and a nose for a nose, and an ear for an ear, and a tooth for a tooth, and the wounds to be impartial; and whoever remits anything of it, then it will cancel sins for him. And whoever does not judge with what God has sent down, then these are the wicked.
547 And let the people of the Injeel judge with what God has sent down in it. And whoever does not judge with what God has sent down, then these are the wicked.
Now why do you still believe in those who judge not with what God has sent down? Is it because they look pious? holy?
One of the greatest human weaknesses is always trying to cult other people who are considered holy. Jesus became God. The Imam became pure from sin, not to mention the companions of the prophet.
Just follow the book, don't follow the tradition,
2170 And if they are told "Follow what God has sent down," they say "No, we will follow what we found our fathers doing!" What if their fathers did not comprehend anything and were not guided?
Don't believe the propaganda that the people around the prophet had the best understanding. We are all the same as long as we follow God's book.
Just remember, the hypocrites were among the Prophet,
9101 And from among the Arabs around you are hypocrites, and from among the people of the city, they persist in hypocrisy. You do not know them, but We know them. We will punish them twice, then they will be returned to a great punishment.
And they were the one who changed the prophet's words,
481 And they say "Obedience" but when they come out from being with you a group of them prepares for other than what you have said, and God records what they planned. So turn away from them and put your trust in God. God is enough for your trust.
Who can guarantee you that you are not following the teachings of the hypocrites when drawing on sources other than the Quran?
Is this verse not enough for you?
548 And We have sent down to you the Book with the truth, affirming what is between your hands of the Book and superseding it. So judge between them by what God has sent down, and do not follow their desires from what has come to you of the truth...
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Thank you for sharing your perspective and citing Quranic verses that highlight the importance of relying on the Quran as a source of guidance. I appreciate your commitment to following the Quran and seeking understanding directly from it.
I would like to clarify that my belief in engaging with the teachings of scholars and considering their interpretations is not a blind adherence to tradition or an endorsement of any individual as infallible. Rather, it is an acknowledgment that Islamic scholarship has developed over centuries, with scholars dedicating their lives to studying the Quran, its context, and its application in various circumstances.
The Quran itself encourages seeking knowledge and asking questions. It emphasizes the importance of learning from those who possess knowledge and understanding, as long as their interpretations are in line with the principles and teachings of the Quran. Therefore, engaging with the works of scholars allows for a broader exploration of perspectives and a deeper understanding of the Quran's message.
While it is essential to rely primarily on the Quran, scholars can provide valuable insights into the historical context, linguistic nuances, and practical applications of its teachings. By engaging in respectful dialogue and critical thinking, we can draw from the wisdom and knowledge of scholars while ensuring that their interpretations align with the fundamental principles of the Quran.
In the spirit of fostering understanding and unity within the Muslim community, let us continue to engage in open discussions, respectfully considering various viewpoints, and seeking guidance from the Quran in our pursuit of knowledge and faith.
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Certainly did Allah confer favor upon the believers when He sent among them a Messenger from themselves, reciting to them His verses and purifying them and teaching them the Book and wisdom, although they had been before in manifest error.The Quran encourages seeking knowledge and guidance from various sources, including learned individuals. Here are a few verses that emphasize the importance of acquiring knowledge
Surah Al-Isra (1736) "And do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Indeed, the hearing, the sight and the heart - about all those will be questioned."
This verse advises against blindly following or pursuing matters without knowledge. It implies the importance of seeking knowledge before making judgments or decisions.Surah Al-Zumar (399) "Are those who know equal to those who do not know? Only they will remember people of understanding."
This verse highlights the distinction between those who possess knowledge and those who do not. It suggests that knowledgeable individuals have a higher capacity to understand and reflect.Surah Al-Nahl (1643) "And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed . So ask the people of the message if you do not know."
This verse encourages seeking guidance from people who have been entrusted with divine revelation. It implies that seeking knowledge and clarification from those who possess knowledge is a valid approach.Surah Al-Anbiya (217) "And We sent not before you, , except men to whom We revealed , so ask the people of the message if you do not know."
Similar to the previous verse, this one emphasizes the role of knowledgeable individuals who have received divine revelation. It suggests that seeking knowledge and understanding from them is a means of acquiring guidance.It's important to note that while seeking knowledge from learned individuals is encouraged, it should always be done with critical thinking, verifying information against the Quran and the teachings of Islam. The Quran serves as the ultimate source of guidance, and any knowledge acquired from other sources should align with its principles and teachings.
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It's important to note that while seeking knowledge from learned individuals is encouraged, it should always be done with critical thinking, verifying information against the Quran and the teachings of Islam. The Quran serves as the ultimate source of guidance, and any knowledge acquired from other sources should align with its principles and teachings.
Peace...
You are really confused... Yes... You definitely should look for learned sources... Coz you don't understand Quran at all but you understand learned sources... How come that is possible? Is it magic in their learned sources that makes you understand.. Answer directly if you really want to engage in a discourse... Everyone can perceive how awkward your answers for direct questions... Either you keep appreciating or respond far from question... Do you think readers are lacking in perception...
Meanwhile carefully read what I write and respond...or you need another source to understand what I write.. Anyway.. Below is what you wrote..
"It's important to note that while seeking knowledge from learned individuals is encouraged, it should always be done with critical thinking, verifying information against the Quran and the teachings of Islam. The Quran serves as the ultimate source of guidance, and any knowledge acquired from other sources should align with its principles and teachings."
Meticulously read again and again what you say... Then reply..
You already don't understand Quran.. Then how you align what you learned from other sources with Quran ... Why you want to align as if you already know Quran...
Okay bring me such a chapter that you aligned after reading learned sources.. And bring the learned sources as well for my verification.. Pls.. Don't skip direct answer then this would be my last answer if you do so..
As God says.. Why you keep admonishing him as if he would get reminded.. How would you know he will get guided.. "" Yes.. God speak the truth.. But I am like a kind person keep reminding you.. But not after your reply to this.. Perhaps Reminder assist.. But it only assit those who are so humble and fearing God.. Anyway answer...Let me tell you... You are like.. You bought a product from ABC compamy and they gave you a manual... But you don't understand their manual but when you read LMN company's manual you understand your product.. Wow.. Then you align.. Then why in the first place you bought ABC company product.. You Could have bought all manuals first and could have bout LMN product instead.. Got my parable.... You should advice ABC company to write their manual in a legible manner so you don't need other manuals to assist... Lol
Admonition helps but not who look guidance outside of God's book..""""" bring me asap such outside sources to see what miracle written in it so I also get some depth enrichment in Quran by reading them. By the way.. who are those people who are comprrhensive in knowledge of Quran and what are they following... Who are they? Are they conventional Muslims or who? Or are you in your dreams talking about alien people who never exist..
""" You already approached learned sources... So why critical thinking and verification.. So do you doubt those learned sources... ?
After all you are the most learned sources... You know why.. You skipped from learned scholars many a view by your critical thinking and verification... Isn't it and then you understand Quran.. Don't you and the silly part of you...
""" so in the learned sources also critical thinking and veifiocation should by applied, THEN WHY NOT APPLY CRITICAL THINKING IN GOD'S BOOK ITSELF****
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Dear jkhan,
Thank you for expressing your thoughts. I apologize if my previous responses came across as confusing or inadequate. I appreciate your perspective and understand your concern about relying on learned sources while not fully understanding the Quran myself.
When I mentioned seeking knowledge from learned individuals, I meant that it can be beneficial to consult experts who have studied the Quran extensively and have a deep understanding of its teachings. However, it is crucial to approach their knowledge with critical thinking and verify the information against the Quran itself. The Quran serves as the ultimate source of guidance, and any knowledge acquired from other sources should align with its principles and teachings.
As for aligning what I have learned from other sources with the Quran, it involves careful examination, comparison, and analysis. It's not about assuming I already know the Quran, but rather seeking further clarity and understanding by studying different perspectives and interpretations within the boundaries of Islamic scholarship.
I encourage you to continue your pursuit of knowledge and engage in critical thinking and verification. Islamic scholarship comprises a wide range of individuals, including traditional scholars, researchers, and Quranic experts. It is advisable to consult reputable scholars and sources recognized within the Muslim community.
Let us engage in respectful dialogue and strive to deepen our understanding of the Quran and its teachings. If you have any further questions or specific topics you'd like to discuss, I'm here to assist.
Peace to you as well.
