Are we true believers!
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Numeric pattern is nothing for you but you are working hard with it....but you would say it is easy just software. Lol...
Never mind.. Keep doing..There is no proven pattern or code 19 in the poem and likewise in fatiha or any chapter of the Quran. The method involves flipping numbers and conducting multiple calculations using Excel and a calculator, which can be a tedious process which you guys are too lazy to test other texts using same methods.
https//www.boxentriq.com/code-breaking/big-number-calculator
Here are a few new ones (same miracle poem) for your collection
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1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95
2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95
3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95
4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95
5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95
6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95
7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 = 19 x …1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 19
2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 19
3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 19
4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 21
5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 20
6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 18
7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 19
28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 135 = 19 x …1
1 4 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 19
2 4 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 19
3 4 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 19
4 4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 21
5 4 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 20
6 4 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 18
7 4 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 19 = 19 x …1
4 1 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 19
4 2 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 19
4 3 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 19
4 4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 21
4 5 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 20
4 6 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 18
4 7 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 19 = 19 x …1
19 4 1 42 2 241 3 1366 4 95 1
19 4 1 48 2 547 3 167 4 95 2
19 4 1 48 2 243 3 185 4 95 3
21 4 1 48 2 157 3 251 4 95 4
20 4 1 48 2 441 3 220 4 95 5
18 4 1 48 2 76 3 403 4 95 6
19 4 1 48 2 240 3 155 4 95 7
135 28 7 330 14 1945 21 2747 28 665 28 = 19 x …It's all based on trial and error, with a predictable pattern where 1 out of 19 attempts (approximately 5%) yields results, while the remaining 18 out of 19 attempts (approximately 95%) do not.
This idea is one of the silliest things on the internet, similar to the fact that about 1 out of 14 people in America (approximately 7%) believe that chocolate milk only comes from brown cows, which is humorous. laugh
The suggestion is to implement this approach on various texts, such as random newspapers, poems, or hadiths, without concerning ourselves with the meaning of the content. The purpose is to provide you with a grasp of fundamental probability concepts, emphasizing the importance of incorporating more parameters and their corresponding multiples, which results in a reciprocal relationship.
Well.. What is the rose (alwazad) and what is FeeHi? May I know?
Irrelevant, see above. More relevant how to recite; how would you answer him?
14 Owner/Māliki or Sovereign/Maliki?
Mohammed Hijab ft. 3 Hadith Rejectors (Quranists) || Speakers Corner
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwmwq2hpCtE&lc=Ugxwt-nj2mFMQjUo4I14AaABAg
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Irrelevant, see above. More relevant how to recite; how would you answer him?
14 Owner/Māliki or Sovereign/Maliki?
Mohammed Hijab ft. 3 Hadith Rejectors (Quranists) || Speakers Corner
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwmwq2hpCtE&lc=Ugxwt-nj2mFMQjUo4I14AaABAg
It is relevant... Just explain why FeeHi in connection to the Rose...?
I have dealt with hadith followers.. God clearly has explained what Maliki yuam iddeen in another chapter.. Let hadith followers dig deep. No easy path.. But you Don't iron out my question by adding a new thing..
Note... Let those hadith followers read 8218-19 and reflect well what Malik Yaum iddeen.. I don't want discuss about that now.. Everyone has to study Quran as it deserves.. If they want..
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Wait a minute here!
Are they trying to prove GODs words by Hadith?-Men s words?
What kind of reasoning /logic is this?
What does GOD say about His hadith? His own words?
GOD s words are sufficient. GOD s words do not ned explaining by men s words/explanations. GOD s words are unchangeable and never run out.. GOD is the explainer and only source of His deen.
Let us turn it around the way it should be
What does GOD say about men s hadiths -Any other hadiths besides Qoran?
Or are they not confirming for us that Hadiths come from men and Qoran comes from GOD?
So out of the two, which is more secure in its truth , explanation and reasoning?
The mind boggles!!! They do not value GOD and His words.
End of argument about which words to follow.
GOD bless you all.
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Wait a minute here!
Are they trying to prove GODs words by Hadith?-Men s words?
What kind of reasoning /logic is this?
What does GOD say about His hadith? His own words?
GOD s words are sufficient. GOD s words do not ned explaining by men s words/explanations. GOD s words are unchangeable and never run out.. GOD is the explainer and only source of His deen.
Let us turn it around the way it should be
What does GOD say about men s hadiths -Any other hadiths besides Qoran?
Or are they not confirming for us that Hadiths come from men and Qoran comes from GOD?
So out of the two, which is more secure in its truth , explanation and reasoning?
The mind boggles!!! They do not value GOD and His words.
End of argument about which words to follow.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.Satan has far delved... They all mock at God's verses as they the ancient did... Even God's manifest signs are presented to them they would only mock.. Coz God has kept a path open in order for them to enhance their dirty game... Thwts why every prophet had to go through this satanic infusion... . God's path is ONLY for those guided believers who always wanted with heart the truth coz they indeed believed in God... Yes.. Path is tough but they will reach the destination leaving all falsehood coming along the way which are so identical to truth ... Satans deception is not icing on the cake..
Keep doing good works my brother... Never slacken.. Only little more time left in life.. Let's go ahead. No one can stop humble believers from reaching to the ultimate goal as Satan knows it is not possible to drag God's true servers towards him... Only pretenders and disbelievers will easily get trapped to the bait of Satan...
Success is near brother...keep doing good works.
I love believers coz I can't wait to live with them one day in sha Allah...
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It is relevant... Just explain why FeeHi in connection to the Rose...?
I have dealt with hadith followers.. God clearly has explained what Maliki yuam iddeen in another chapter.. Let hadith followers dig deep. No easy path.. But you Don't iron out my question by adding a new thing..
Note... Let those hadith followers read 8218-19 and reflect well what Malik Yaum iddeen.. I don't want discuss about that now.. Everyone has to study Quran as it deserves.. If they want..
It’s good you read my post on 8218-19 and already posted translation of poem likewise this nineteen garbage collection works with anything; random rants, nursery rhymes, etc., simply try it for yourself if like wasting time.
Peace and goodbye!
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Bro Nom,
Look at surah Al-Fatihah below11 In the name of God, the Almighty, the Merciful (بِسمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحمٰنِ الرَّحيمِ - basmallah)
12 Praise be to God, Lord of the worlds.
13 The Almighty, the Merciful.
14 Sovereign of the Day of Judgment.
15 You alone we serve, and You alone we seek for help.
16 Guide us to the straight path.
17 The path of those You have graced, not of those who have incurredYou see the "basmallah" in this surah is designated as 11 viz. verse one
And has been designed with its own built-in code 19
https//www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/bp/bp.pdf?Thus, anyone who wants to produce miracle surah like al-Fatihah also needs to design an opener verse comparable to built-in code 19 of verse 11 (basmallah)! Now the task becomes more difficult and more challenging!
Bro Nom,
Your opener verse أَمَّا الْوَرْدُ فَالْمُغْرِيَّةُ فِيهِFact 1
The Opener consists of 19 Arabic letters (pass)Fact 2
The sequence number of each word in the Opener followed by the number of letters
13 25 38 43 = 19 x 697570.68 (fail)Fact 3
Replace the number of letters in each word in Fact 2 by the total gematrical value of that word
142 2241 31366 495 = 19 x 7485480598236.58 (fail)Fact 4
Replace the total gematrical value of each word in Fact 3 by the gematrical value of every letter in that word.
11401 213062004 380130401000200105 480105 = 19 x 600063845368651585810578957900288426.58 (fail)224 If you cannot do this and you can never do this then beware of the Hellfire, whose fuel is people and rocks; it awaits the disbelievers.
Try again!
Have a nice holiday!
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Bro Nom,
Your opener verse أَمَّا الْوَرْدُ فَالْمُغْرِيَّةُ فِيهِFact 1
The Opener consists of 19 Arabic letters (pass)Fact 2
The sequence number of each word in the Opener followed by the number of letters
13 25 38 43 = 19 x 697570.68 (fail)dear shukri, stop embarrassing yourself!
- all other verses in chapter 1 would fail!
- 6236*18/19 verses in Qur'an would fail!
- all verses/text have different multiples!
first line of poem here are only a few (numerous any text!)
4 1744 19 1 1 1401 2 13062004 3 80130401000200105 4 80105 = 19 x …
4 1744 19 1 1401 2 13062004 3 80130401000200105 4 80105 1 = 19 x …
1744 4 1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 1 = 19 x …1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 1 19 4 = 19 x …
1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 1 4 1744 = 19 x …
1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 19 1 1744 = 19 x …
1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 19 1744 4 = 19 x …
1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 4 19 1744 = 19 x …4 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 1 = 19 x …
1 19 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 = 19 x …
1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 19 4 1 = 19 x …
1 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 4 = 19 x …1744 1 4 19 1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 = 19 x …
4 19 1744 1 1401 42 2 13062004 241 3 80130401000200105 1366 4 80105 95 1 = 19 x …
1 1744 4 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 = 19 x …1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 19 1744 = 19 x …
1744 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 1 4 = 19 x …4 1744 19 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 = 19 x …
1744 19 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 4 1 = 19 x …4 1744 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 19 1 = 19 x …
4 19 1 1744 1 3 1401 42 2 5 13062004 241 3 8 80130401000200105 1366 4 3 80105 95 = 19 x …1 19 1 1 1 2 40 3 1 2 4 1 5 30 6 6 7 200 8 4 3 9 80 10 11 30 12 40 13 1000 14 200 15 10 16 5 4 17 80 18 10 19 5 1744 4 = 19 x …
https//www.boxentriq.com/code-breaking/big-number-calculator
you are never to old to learn this very basic 3 grade stuff
https//www.mathsisfun.com/combinatorics/combinations-permutations-calculator.html
peace and take care!
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Bro Nom,
I respect your effort to prove in-built 19 in your miraculous "surah" is on par or better than surah al-Fatihah
And now I propose you to publish your findings officially or make a book on it
This has been done by "Masjid Tucson"
And let the experts in both arabic language and those familiar with the concept of "probability" make a judgement!
Just remember, "probability" is based on proper arrangement of selected parameters and not based on the computer's random permutations!
Just do it if you are truthful!
And then we leave it to the readers to evaluate your astonishing code 19 ;D
I think it's fair and square!So long!
224 If you cannot do this and you can never do this then beware of the Hellfire, whose fuel is people and rocks; it awaits the disbelievers.Thank you.
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Bro Nom,
I respect your effort to prove in-built 19 in your miraculous "surah" is on par or better than surah al-Fatihah
And now I propose you to publish your findings officially or make a book on it
This has been done by "Masjid Tucson"
And let the experts in both arabic language and those familiar with the concept of "probability" make a judgement!
Just remember, "probability" is based on proper arrangement of selected parameters and not based on the computer's random permutations!
Just do it if you are truthful!
And then we leave it to the readers to evaluate your astonishing code 19 ;D
I think it's fair and square!So long!
224 If you cannot do this and you can never do this then beware of the Hellfire, whose fuel is people and rocks; it awaits the disbelievers.Thank you.
My dear shukri,
In the Quran, the term "kafir" (or "kāfir" is often translated as "disbeliever" or "unbeliever." It is derived from the Arabic root word "kafara," which means "to cover" or "to hide."
It appears that you're still not fully grasping the concept. Let me reiterate there are no limitations when it comes to publishing multiples. This can work with any text, regardless of whether it's in Arabic or any other language and with any length of words or verses, and anyone can generate multiples from gibberish, rap, nursery rhymes, music lyrics, poetry, and more comparable to what was achieved in Chapter 1, and the selection of the poem was chosen randomly to showcase this.
My code was not astonishing nor was it code. I simply did what they did the last 50 years which is nothing more than flipping stuff around and only showing approximately 1/19 or 5% of the expected multiples and I purposely did not show the 18/19 or 95% of the predicted failures.
Albeit I’m more efficient at this and can outperform in a few hours what took them years by slightly modifying excel to test very long digits division using concatenation and mod functions to get by the 15 digit limitation of excel and likewise wrote my own calculator to automate some things otherwise it’s very tedious to paste into a calculator e.g., 1900 times to get only 100 multiples which is the reason you guys are fooled since it’s really boring work and hard to verify and they make it seem like 19 is everywhere when it’s exactly as predicted at only 1/19 or 5% nothing special and they purposely hide 18/19 of all failures. This is a fact!
Regarding the matter of 224 and numerology, it has nothing to do with this discussion. Let's focus on understanding the statement and its intended meaning. I encourage you to read through the content thoroughly.
223 وان and if كنتم be you فى in رىب doubt مما from what نزلنا descend we of على on عبدنا devotee ours فاتوا so approaches ye of بسوره with chapter من of مثله similitude it وادعوا and invoke ye of شهدكم witnesses yours من from دون besides الله the God ان if كنتم be you صدقىن sincere
224 فان so if لم not تفعلوا thou fulfill ye of ولن and never تفعلوا thou fulfill ye of فاتقوا so heeds ye of النار the fire التى the one وقودها fuel its الناس the people والحجره and the stones اعدت set of (readied) للكفرىن for the rejecters
225 وبشر and glad tidings الذىن the ones امنوا believes they of وعملوا and work they of الصلحت the righteousness ان that لهم for them جنت gardens تجرى flow من from تحتها underneath it الانهر the rivers كلما whenever of رزقوا provision they of منها from it من of ثمره fruit رزقا provision of قالوا said they of هذا this الذى the one رزقنا provision us من from قبل before واتوا and given they of به in it متشبها ones analogous its ولهم and for them فىها therein ازوج spouses مطهره pure وهم and they فىها therein خلدون eternally being
226 ان indeed الله the God لا not ىستحىى shamed ان that ىضرب striketh مثلا similitude of ما what (even) بعوضه mosquito فما so what (even) فوقها above it فاما so as for الذىن the ones امنوا believes they of فىعلمون so knowing انه that it الحق the truth من from ربهم lord theirs واما and as for الذىن the ones كفروا reject they of فىقولون so speaketh being ماذا what hath اراد intends الله the God بهذا in this مثلا similitude of? ىضل misguided به with it كثىرا many of وىهدى and guided به with it كثىرا many of وما and not ىضل misguided به with it الا except الفسقىن the disobedient
Peace!
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Bro Nom,
Thanks for your kind clarification on word "disbelievers" and "Codes"As usual any subject raised in the forum has pros and cons
Our part just to provide the best explanation to the readers
You have your own reasoning based on your sincerity/intellectual/knowledge and so am IAs we know, there is no compulsion in religion
We are just bound to follow the best of it!3918 They are the ones who examine all words, then follow the best. These are the ones whom God has guided; these are the ones who possess intelligence.
Peace
Sorry for any inconvenience!Thank you.
