'S J D ' with clarity - indeed not Prostration
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"Those are they, Allah bestowed favor from among the prophets of the descendants of Adam and of those We carried with Nuh, and of the descendants of Ibraham and Israel, and of those whom We guided and chose. When the verses/revelations of Ar'Rahman were recited to them, they concurred with / harmonized with (Kharru) acknowledgement (SJD) and weeping."Take the example of above verse with word Kharru and SJD.. Here every previous Nabbi indeed when the revelations were recited they were not arrogant they harmonized with acknowledgement and made them weep... They didn't fall physically in prostration whenever verses were recited to them every time .. Nonsensical.. Cuz revelation /verses are full of truth, knowledge and wisdom and reminders and hearing them, they could not resist and they concurred with their minds and thus acknowledged and it made them weep.. It happens with any true believer when we read ourselves or recited to us. It happens with me too.. Heart cringes in servile manner..
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"those the repenting, the serving, the praising, the straitness freeing, the humbling, the acknowledging, the enjoining with the good and the refraining from the evil, and those the guarding to limits of Allah. And give glad tidings to the believing."These are some of the key characteristics of true believers.. Please read following and preceding verses for better clarity.. These are not rituals but immaculate actions in life...
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I know majority of you won't agree with my understanding but no harm... My intention only to present my understanding and absolutely satisfied with it after comprehensive research...
In that line allow me to submit another couple of SJD verses..2125 And when we made the system / charter (AlBayt) a recompense to the people and an assurance, and to take from establishment / direction of Ibrahim a connection (Musalla). And we covenanted to Ibrahim and Ismail to clarify My System / Charter to the dutiful, the devoted, and the Humbling the acknowledging /honoring."
2226 And when we steadied / resolved to Ibrahim plan (makan) of the System / Charter (AlBayt), "that not to associate with Me anything and clarify my system / charter (bayt) for those the dutiful and the upholding / firm and the humbling the acknowledging /honoring ".
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Root س ج د
Affectionate surrender of one's will and freedom/liberty-Forehead on the ground.
Words from this Root in the Grand Qur’ān
a) Total occurrences 92
b) No of constructions 33
Nouns 16; Recurrence 57; Verbs 17; Recurrence 35
Related concepts
Root ر ك ع Kneeling
Root ص ل و
Semantic components
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Basic initial meanings Feel of reverence and its expression through physical gesture-body language-lowering of head in state chin moving towards chest and gaze going down. It is a relational word-a relationship between the Reverent and the Revered. Reverent and the Revered could be any object or person.
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Advanced meanings in the changed relational field when the Revered is the Only One-The Absolute-The Only Independent-The Self Subsisting-The Creator-The Supreme Exalted-Sovereign Sustainer Lord of the Universes, and the Reverent are all objects and living-all that exists in the created realm. Here the meanings, while retaining the basic perception, advance into its extreme limits-Prostration.
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Sublime and sincere Prostration of human beings-Bowing and curving to lay the forehead on the Earth denoting absolute surrender and sublime adoration.
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Laying of Forehead on ground relays non-verbal signal of surrender of granted Freedom and Will of decision and self governing to the Sustainer Lord.
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The Laying of Forehead on ground yields bridging the distance to get nearer to the Sustainer Lord.
It may be seen that the original, fundamental meanings are the feel of lowliness, humility, submissiveness by one for someone else, which is manifested by lowering of one's head in the state chin moving towards chest along with eyes going downwards, or bending oneself down. The basic perception unfolds that this is a relational word-it happens or takes existence only when there are two entities. Moreover, evidently it is not an abstract or theoretical proposition but a physical act; something expressed, conveyed, and submitted through body language instead of verbal expression. This act signifies and demonstratively portrays-parallels one's thought of surrender and submission reflecting acceptance of his relative humble state and position as against the exalted, honoured, elevated stature, and glory of other. This gives us its initial perception and meanings as obeisance, homage, respectful, saluting gesture and behaviour towards/for someone else.
The relational aspect, physical nature and the reflection of the relativity in stature, position and elevation of the subject and the one for whom this act is done is explained at first instance of use of this Root in the Qur’ān
https//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(63.htm
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Allow me to present this beautiful verse..
5040"And of the night exalt/glorify Him and pondering /reflecting the acknowledgement."
Glorifying the God is not mere words but reflecting a lot about Allah and that's literally a way of Exalting Allah thus with every reflection /pondering do the acknowledgement in heart...
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I have been presenting SJD verses for sometime now where it means acknowlwdge but when the word is MASJID or MASAJID from the same root what it means.. You must be curious... No difference.. Same meaning... But it has its own meaning... Let's begin with below verse very familiar with the story of people of Cave.. ..
1821
".... ....Construct (Abnu) over them a structure (Bunyanan). Their Lord was well knowing about them. Said those who prevailed in the affair, "We will indeed take over them a state of acknowledgement (Masjid) / state of honor"
It's pretty clear what they did on behalf of the people of cave... They found it very strange and specific... So it seems they argued and a group prevailed and decided to raise something in acknowledgement of them... In simple language for example a monument or memorial or sanctuary whatever but in honor of or in acknowledgement of.. But one of themeanings of Masjid is "state of acknowledgement"...
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I have been presenting SJD verses for sometime now where it means acknowlwdge but when the word is MASJID or MASAJID from the same root what it means.. You must be curious... No difference.. Same meaning... But it has its own meaning... Let's begin with below verse very familiar with the story of people of Cave.. ..
1821
".... ....Construct (Abnu) over them a structure (Bunyanan). Their Lord was well knowing about them. Said those who prevailed in the affair, "We will indeed take over them a state of acknowledgement (Masjid) / state of honor"
It's pretty clear what they did on behalf of the people of cave... They found it very strange and specific... So it seems they argued and a group prevailed and decided to raise something in acknowledgement of them... In simple language for example a monument or memorial or sanctuary whatever but in honor of or in acknowledgement of.. But one of themeanings of Masjid is "state of acknowledgement"...
This Bunyan / Structure could be even nonphysical.. Like abnu (raise) an organization /composition (Bunyanan)...
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As I elaborated above MASJID means "state of acknowledgement or state of honor".. Accordingly in honor of, people raised various things and one such aspect is SANCTUARY... So this sanctuary is not formed or called just sanctuary without a reason. It has a valid reason to be called a SANCTUARY be it a natural or man-made structure ... The Reason is it is formed in honor of or rather in acknowledgement of and that state of acknowledgement makes the sanctuary specific where people flock in total freedom regardless of faith..
But there could be such SANCTUARIES formed in ill intention as the following verse portrays...Let's compare the above Masjid verse with below one.. But compulsorily read 9107 before reading 9108 for better clarity and without reading 9107 you perhaps won't get the cream and essence of the verse 9108.. Also read 9109 very essential..
9108
"Do not be in it ever. On a state of acknowledgement formed upon conciousness from the very inception is more worthy for you to stand in it. In it are men who love to purify themselves; and Allah loves those who purify themselves.So when you read following and preceding verses it is very manifest that evil hearted people raised or formed Bunyanan / structure (man-made or natural) in an acknowledgement of their evil purposes and indeed they formed it in honor of those who waged war against Allah... But they called it a SANCTUARY for good purpose... No way... God confirms they are liars and the Sanctuary they raised is not at all worthy enter...
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"O children of Adam, take your splendours /magnificence at every Sanctuary (Masjid), and eat and drink, but be not excessive. Indeed, He likes not those who commit excess."
Closely look at the above verse... Allah Addressed "O children of Adam" so regardless of faith.. The only place all are welcome is Allah's SANCTUARIES where God's name glorified / remembered / reflected a lot. A Sanctuary formed /founded "in acknowledgement of / in honor of true purpose... And normally in sanctuaries things are in abundance...
That's why God confirms that SANCTUARIES belong to Him..
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And that the SANCTUARIES (Masaajids) are for Allah , so do not invoke with Allah anyone.
"Sanctuaries founded for good intent is always a place belong to Allah, so in such sanctuaries as believers never invoke or associate with Allah... Cuz as a believer once you are in a SANCTUARY you are in a state of acknowledgement / honor cuz SANCTUARY itself was found in honor of / in acknowledgement of good purpose.. .. It's not a place for evil...
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Say, "My Lord has commanded with justice and that you be firm in your expressions / countenances in the presence of every (Masjid) SANCTUARY (ie under state of acknowledgement), and invoke Him, sincerely to Him of the direction (Deen)."When you are in a God's Sanctuary yiu are bound to be evil free not only in your actions visible or spiritually...
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Now allow me to explain what "Al Masjid AL Haram " means... If you have read my old topic Haj verses with clarity you would have known already...
AL Masjid AL Haram = The Sanctuary the Sanctioned / Forbidden " . Here AL masjid is not formed in vain but "in a state of acknowledgement " which is pure purpose to hold the Haj (Debate).. As I explained in my earlier threads Sanctuaries won't get founded without specific purpose.. AL Masjid AL Haram was indeed founded in honor or in acknowledgement of Haj where it takes place.. If I present an analogy it will be like.. Olympics = Haj, and Destination Olympics takes place is equal Sanctuary (Masjid)..
I presebt one Quran verse where AL masjid AL haram apears..
2191" ..... .... And do not fight them in the presence of The Sanctuary The Forbidden (al-Masjid al- Haram) until they fight you there. In case if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
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38 Indeed, Allah delivers / defends those who have believed. Verily, Allah does not like every treacherous and denying.
39 Permitted to those who are being fought, as they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is powerful to give them victory.
40 Those who have been evicted from their living places devoid of just save that they say, "Our Lord is Allah." And if it not that Allah checks / delivers / defends the people, some by means of others, ruined would have been Disciplines / Controls (Sawwami), and Dealings (Bee'u), and Commitments / Bonds (Salawat) and Sanctuaries (MASAJID) in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely help those who help Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Mighty.
41 Those who, if We give them authority in the land, establish the Integrity (sala) and bringforth the purity (zakah) and enjoin with good and refrain from bad And to Allah belongs the end of matter.
My dear fellow believers Salam..
I brought four verses though only one verse is refering SJD. Yes I have a reason to bring all four of them to give you the best clarity since all four verses connected.. Carefully read how it is connected..
Remember every ethnic group has had SANCTUARIES those days... Sanctuaries were part and parcel of those people..
Now what exactly these verses bring to light.. Allah's intent is very manifest He will defend BELIEVERS always.. But there is always threats and challenges from Deniers.. But Allah choses a group of people to give help to believers.. Sanctuaries are focal point of life to those people and is enriched. But these Deniers wanttd to tear them apart with their evil actions so that fundamental Disciplines, Commitments and Bonds collapse so Sanctuaries' purity get ruined..
Note the last verse 2241 Allah confirms. But if the authority is in the hands of good believers, they won't act in this ruining manner.. They will indeed take every action to "establish integrity and thus bring forth purity to the land and that's the basic of basics rulers should do.. Not only that they would implement with what is good and refrain bad... So that Desciplines , Dealings, Commitments and Sanctuaries would remain in tact.. And people will remain free and safe..
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Another familiar and regularly discussed SJD verse as under for your perusal..
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2187 Permitted for you nights of the Siyam (Self-discipline / Abstinence / contemplation / meditation) the sex to your wives. They (wives) are fortification for you (husbands), and you (husbands) fortification for them (wives). Allah knows that you used to be treacherous / betraying amongst yourselves (wife and husband), so turned towards you pardoned / forsake you (husband and wife), so now rejoice with them (wives) and desire what God has destined/assigned for you and eat and drink until manifest the brighter shade from darker shade of the dawn. Then fulfill the Siyam (look above) to the night. Never rejoice (thubashiruhunna) with them (wives) while you are devoted / committed (Aqifun) in the SANCTUARIES (MASAJID). This is limits of the God, so never near them (wives). Like thus makes clear the God His verses to the people in order to be conscious.
Here any SANCTUARIES of Allah.. Allah's sanctuaries are founded in honor or in acknowledgement of and just cuz it is huge and open space it doesnt mean one can behave within it as he wants..
Allah strictly commands not to near during the night of Siyam the wives even it is allowed while in the Sanctuaries (Masajid).. Imagine if it is Masjed a building where the main purpose is to pray conventionally five times a day, why would Allah command not to approach wives.. Don't they have common sense? Not in any religious conventional worshiping place regardless of their faith they have sex there.. So it is not what Allah meant by Masajid but it is SANCTUARIES.. For example The sanctuary the Forbidden (AL Masjid AL Haram) it's not a building it is a huge land area which specifically assigned for hosting Haj and if one is inside these boundaries NO SEX.. cuz the sanctuary is founded in honor /acknowledgement of pure purpose... So once you are in it "state of acknowledgement " applies to you..It's up to you to reflect.. I can't convince.. I can only share knowledge..
Salam..
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peace,
Your research has similarities to mine, although I expect your understanding of "masjid" and "al masjid al haram" to be different
https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-of-SuJuD-from-Quran.html
http//www.mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-quran.html
https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.htmlConclusion of parts 1, 2, 3
The Quranic evidence weighs the evidence in favour of SJD meaning "to submit/honour/pay respect", "masjid" meaning "time of SJD", "al masjid al haram" meaning "the inviolable time of SJD" (i.e. the term referring to the time-period/event of the inviolable months), wherein "al hajj" is held. This understanding provides a logical, coherent and practical answer throughout, and helps answer some of the most difficult questions in Quran exegesis (e.g. 171-8, 1760, 4827, 2142-150).The useful thing in my article is I highlight the verses that could cause issues for the various understandings. I don't know if you address these in your research.
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Some are convinced that SJD is physically prostrating to Allah like shown in the picture and bringing the verse which is states that HudHuda found those people prostrating to the SUN... Did hudhuda indeed find them Physicaly prostrating to the sun like picture depicts ?.. In fact impossible ... No sun worshiping community in the past or now physically prostrate like the picture depicts... Sunworshipers have many of their own rituals and it differs region to region.. To show homage to the sun they practice them..for example sacrifices of animals or even human .. Chanting.. Immersing in sacred waters... Various bodily postures..
So my question is how hudhud found them Physically prostrating alone while they have various rituals...? Indeed HudHuda found them ACKNOWLEDGING /HONORING the Sun thus accepted the sun as god instead of Allah... That's what HudHuda found...
Bring me any anceint tradition where they physically prostrate to the sun as in picture here.. No one prostrates to the sun like that... -
Salam...
I know almost all conventional Muslims and even most of those who take Quran alone do physically prostrate .... So pls raise your objections to this understanding of mine.. Perhaps we can have better grip of these verses.. Constructive criticism helps a lot look for absolute truth..
So those who don't have the similar understanding pls cast your valid point... Let's seek guidance...Salam..
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My concerns regarding SJD / physical prostration when it comes to conventional way...
1...Why SJD is physically prostrated directing ones body only towards Kaaba in Mecca ?
2.. While everything on Heavens and Earth SJD to Allah willingly or unwillingly...
3 ... Kaaba was raised at certain point of time in history, but everything SJD to Allah from the beginning void of Kaaba...
4... If everything SJD to Allah so do I and so even evil men and Jin literally everything... But I don't SJD directing my body to Kaaba in Mecca.. So what SJD I do according Allah since He manifestly claims everything SJD to Allah... How can one say I don't SJD to Allah just cuz I don't physically prostrate towards Mecca while Allah claims everything SJD ?
5... If SJD means physical Prostration to Allah Alone then why would Malika were commanded to SJD to our father Adam and to depict and bringforth what by doing SJD / physical prostration to a human? So it clearly indicates SJD is not merely done to Allah cuz SJD done to Adam..
6...So.. SJD can be performed to Allah and even Adam upon command but SJD to the Sun or Moon is restricted?
It clearly indicates that this SJD obviosly has intent why one does SJD...
7... if everything SJD to Allah, why would Iblees refuse to SJD to Adam while iblees SJD to Allah.. Indeed Iblees SJD to Allah since everything SJD to Allah.. But clear refusal to SJD to Adam.. So logically ponder, If SJD is physically prostrating then Iblees not refusing to physically prostrate to Allah but refused to physically prostrate to Adam... Is that the reality?
That's not the truth... Reality is word SJD is manipulated by a religion called Islam founded by later generation after Mohamed..
Let's apply SJD / acknowledge (honor) to all above concerns.. Indeed SJD means acknowledgement and it is just a word and had nothing specific.. You can use to any sort of acknowledgement...
Malika were commanded to acknowledge to Adam... But refused Iblees while Iblees acknowledge Allah but a specific command from Allah was refused.. The Sun and Moon are creations of Allah you can acknowledge but you can't acknowledge the sun and moon as Deities with intent.. Malika didn't acknowledge Adam as deity but Malika acknowledged the remarkable and an elite Creation (Human) of Allah .. Not refused..
Everything acknowledges Allah cuz everything uses Allah's magnificence.. That's why Allah used willingly or unwillingly... They don't directly acknowledge but they do but believers and rest of Allah's creatures directly and willingly acknowledge /honor.. Not everything physically prostrate.. Nonsensical...
SJD every thing does but SABIH (glorify) Allah cannot be done by everything but by those who indeed fear can and would willingly but we have no capacity to understand them..1744
"The seven heavens and the earth and whatever is in them exalt(SABIH) Him. And there is not a thing except that it exalts by His Majesty, but you do not understand their exalting. Indeed, He is ever Forbearing and Forgiving"
Well.. Similarly everything SURRENDER (ASLAMA) to Allah..
383"So is it other than the Direction (Deen) of Allah they desire, while to Him have Surrendered / submitted (ASLAMA) those within the heavens and earth, willingly or by compulsion, and to Him they will be returned?"
All in all we all involved in SJD (Acknowledging) and ASLAM (surrender /submit) and Exalting (Sabih) the Majesty of Allah but who is willingly with intent doing is what matters.. Cuz no one can escape from SJD, ASLAM and SABIH.. Everything does cuz we use God's earth and heavens and naturally we do... But most on earth don't do these three aspects willingly...
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Salam...
Still I am insisting with Quran verses in order that QURAN verses may give you perfect meaning... I already explained these two verses but would like to bring both together to reflect...BELIEVERS "when the Quran is recited to them they SJD"
DISBELIEVERS "when the Quran is recited to them they don't SJD"
So, what makes you think and decide that SJD = physical prostration....? Foes that really make sense for you... Remember folks these are actual statements from Allah... BELIEVER SJD and DISBELIEVER doeant SJD.. when? Yes when Quran is recited to them... Reflect people and raise your objections pr support what you do buy with Quran... Let Quran prevail.. And not our views..
