Greetings - I am VERY new
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SALAM SHEENA,
I am from singapore. add me to msn [email protected]
or email me...you can join us for friday prayers or quranic study we got a group of believers here in singapore.Salam.Regards,
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Salam, )
Hey Ali Imran, I thought u were in jail for the Bali bombing hehehe...
Anyway, I personally dont understand about what people like Sheena are going through. When I tell my parents about my belief, they dont get mad, let alone shunning me. Instead, they accept it because they think many of the hadith influenced traditions just dont make sense and superstitious.
Well, maybe it's because we are Indonesians so that we are much less extreme. I wonder if there is anyone from Indonesia who face difficulty from his/her family.
Moreover, I also dont understand why would anybody get shunned by his muslim family just because he wants to follow Al Quran. Such attitude is understandable if the case is he leaves the faith altogether or something.
Oh yeah, I have a question. Is one of the reasons that make arabs idolize Muhammad so much because he is an arab? I get the impression that arab people take Muhammad more like a national hero, so they want him to be the best among other peoples heroes (ReadOther non-arab prophets).
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Salaam Jankren,
Yes I was in Bali a couple of times, but I spent more time at Bali Rock Cafe though
I can understand Sheena's case, which you may not. I agree that Indonesian environment is more open and conducive for contrary thinking, which Quranic thinking is second to none, than say Malaysia or Singapore, or even the South Asian countries for that matter. In Malaysia, I believe it has more to do with political dynamics and racial psychology of the country than truly an issue of faith or belief. In Malaysia, the maxim that Islam is Arab and Arab is Islam holds true and casts in stone. To say otherwise can be construed as an insult or contempt of Islam, a serious offence and punishable depending on the political mood and the religious influence of the priesty class of the day.
And Muhammad is god, spiritually or psychologically, depending on the flavour of the moment. Promoting Quranic messages can be branded and labeled as anti-hadith for good, an immediate and automatic invitation to social outcast. In my case I have lost family members and friends, and I have yet to do it openly or publicly, so much so that at times you tend to question whether it is really worth its while to do all these. But the compliment is that even your detractors can see the change in you, the positive change in mindset, attitude and personality, which otherwise can be a monumental task to undertake.
Have a good day brother. Bisa jumpa disuatu hari nanti..
)A.
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Salaam Jankren,
Well, maybe it's because we are Indonesians so that we are much less extreme. I wonder if there is anyone from Indonesia who face difficulty from his/her family.
If a husband is considered part of the family, we have two members from A-S who experience hardships. (
Dua-duanya sudah tidak pernah posting lagi, mungkin suatu saat bila situasi telah aman.=adley=
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Salaam A.,
And Muhammad is god, spiritually or psychologically, depending on the flavour of the moment. Promoting Quranic messages can be branded and labeled as anti-hadith for good, an immediate and automatic invitation to social outcast. In my case I have lost family members and friends, and I have yet to do it openly or publicly, so much so that at times you tend to question whether it is really worth its while to do all these. But the compliment is that even your detractors can see the change in you, the positive change in mindset, attitude and personality, which otherwise can be a monumental task to undertake.
Bro, that is so sad to hear
Perhaps here is not that bad, but Muhammad is surely a certain type of god. ;D
If Ahmadiyah suffers what they are experiencing in this country, I don't think we can expect anything milder from the so-called Muslims. Perhaps not in Jakarta, but I'm worried about those who live in kampung.=adley=
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Salam,
Hey Ali Imran, I thought u were in jail for the Bali bombing hehehe...
Anyway, I personally dont understand about what people like Sheena are going through. When I tell my parents about my belief, they dont get mad, let alone shunning me. Instead, they accept it because they think many of the hadith influenced traditions just dont make sense and superstitious.
Well, maybe it's because we are Indonesians so that we are much less extreme. I wonder if there is anyone from Indonesia who face difficulty from his/her family.
Salaam,
LOL I'm not an malayu but I think it's ok that I comment something, but I have been married with an malay man before!!!
The malay people seems to be very fund of their rituals, so if a God Alone followers explain he don't do salat 5 times a day and not doing the ritual bowing and prostrating, then they see u as an kafir, yes they do, they can't accept it.
My ex husband he became frustrated when he found out that I didn't performed 5 times salat and not performed it the traditional way.It lead to our marriage came to an end. He didn't respect me and wanted to force me back to the traditional islam and I refused his wishes.
Peace Sis Maria
Moreover, I also dont understand why would anybody get shunned by his muslim family just because he wants to follow Al Quran. Such attitude is understandable if the case is he leaves the faith altogether or something.
Oh yeah, I have a question. Is one of the reasons that make arabs idolize Muhammad so much because he is an arab? I get the impression that arab people take Muhammad more like a national hero, so they want him to be the best among other peoples heroes (ReadOther non-arab prophets).
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Salams sheena! Kudos to oyu for having the courage to tell your family, I haven't been able to tell minds yet. I think I need to be more mentaly prepared and ready to answer any question they fire at me. anyway, I have been to Singapore twice! It is one of my favourite places, it is so beuatiful and so CLEAN! ;D Your lucky to live there! I have been to Jakarta and Bandung aswell (my stepmum is Indonesian.)
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Salaam Majidah,
Oh yeah, I have a question. Is one of the reasons that make arabs idolize Muhammad so much because he is an arab? I get the impression that arab people take Muhammad more like a national hero, so they want him to be the best among other peoples heroes (ReadOther non-arab prophets).
Hmmm... that is a possibility. But it is even more wondrous why non-Arabs (read my fellow countrymen) also idolize him so much. Sometimes even greater than our national heroes. ;D
=adley=
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peace sheena,
All my love and support is yours. I know exactly what you are going through you are definately not alone in this struggle as many here will tell you. You may email me anytime if you are feeling down, or isolated or just want to get things off your chest. I recommend keep turning to the quran and remembering Allah much.
love and peace xxx
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I just registered today.
I have been raised a sunni & have now began reading the Quran & turning slowly into a Quranic only believer.
Unfortunately my family members & friends have labelled & shunned me.
They called me a kafeer.
I am just seeking solace from friends out there sharing the same fate.
At least I do not feel alone.**** I have repeatedly tried getting in touch with Zakaria - the so called Spore coordinator but
I am not getting any reply from him.Can somebody just talk to me?
As salamu alaykum.
Respectfully.You must stay patient.
Patience is a good virtue of every believer.
I know it's hard but rely on God and you'll succeed.As salamu alaykum.
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salam alaykum
i wasnt raised muslim but christian and i do know how it feels to leave your families ideal of what the right way is
i too know how it feels to be labeled as one who is in the wrong way and misguided and oging to hell by there standards
you are not alone i understand here is somehting i have learned throught time
u cant change hearts, no matter how close u r to a person, u can't make them see what u see, make them learn what u learn... u have to wait patiently for them to learn through their individually prescribed destinies"
hope that helps
amanda
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Salam ~
Twist of fate (absent mindedness) I am now Isis ~ though I am Sheena the lady who started this. Seemed to have forgotten even my Id and password ~
Thanks for being very supportive of me.
At present, I really have nothing construe to say(type). but God willing, I shall post more in future (take this as my blog page) laughs
group
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The Arab Conspiracy
Salamz ~
When I was first introduced to the Koranic-only ideology, I was scared to death. Every waking moment, I asked God for forgiveness and I felt that I have betrayed theProphet ~ Mohammed.
At the same time I prayed that God will show me the Right Way and if Koranic- only is the Way then the Lord will tweak my heart to embrace passionately.
I read "The Arab Conspiracy" with so much despair. Although I found some truth in "The Arab Conspiracy" deep down I was still scared.Maybe scared to face the truth? Nevertheless, I put everything aside to finish the book meaning that I put all other emotions ~ I took it that I am just reading.......after I finished reading the book, I was like
Wow!
After that, I look at everything at a different angle and Boy! did I had a good laugh ...... looking back at so many things that I deemed the truth.
My advise to all first timers reading "The Arab Conspiracy" to look at the book openly and With God's Grace your heart and mind will see the truth ~
Yes, people around me have seen the change in me ~ I no longer don the "tudung" or headscarf (tts on the physical side)
Although, I am not one to preach the Koran incessantly ~ I do have people telling me that although I am a "walking Koran" ~ I do not preach what I say?! .......... whatever that means laff
I do not care what people think of me now ~ because at the end of the Day, The Lord shall judge me not them!And before I make my way out ~ there is something that I would like to share with the world & and its something that I intend to do everytime I post something here (I hope I dun get sued for nothing) Here goes ~~
~ LAST NOTES ~
Always Respond To A Greeting
"And if you are greeted with a greeting, then return an even better greeting or return the same. God is Reckoning over all things." (Quran 486)
smiles thats taken off Chapter 6 under "Social Responsibility" (page 42) from "The Natural Republic".
You may be wondering ~ "What that gotta do with my page" laffs
Those are the Words of God ! and every single Word of God touches us because it is our Way of Life !
Isis out
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Although, I am not one to preach the Koran incessantly ~ I do have people telling me that although I am a "walking Koran" ~ I do not preach what I say?! .......... whatever that means laff
oops what I intended to type was "practise what I preach" yeah
Isis out ~
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As salamu alaykum.
Respectfully.Trust me Isis, you're much more courageous then me. If i told my parents that i'm a quran-alone muslim, i'd sleeping outdoors.
My mother made an exit from Islam and that's why i got deported from the States - i hurried and made a mistake.As salamu alaykum.
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Hi Isis,
I'm from Singapore too. Like you, I was raised a Sunni Muslim but I renounced the religion and became a weak atheist (no belief in god) ten years ago. The decision was intellectual. Recently I'm convinced that there is a god and now I subbscribe to the God Alone philosophy.
Hope we can share our views over teh tarik.
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Hi Isis,
I'm from Singapore too. Like you, I was raised a Sunni Muslim but I renounced the religion and became a weak atheist (no belief in god) ten years ago. The decision was intellectual. Recently I'm convinced that there is a god and now I subbscribe to the God Alone philosophy.
Hope we can share our views over teh tarik. )
As salamu alaykum.
Respectfully.Welcome to the forum and be grateful to Allah for guiding you to the Right Path.
As salamu alaykum.
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SalamZ ~ Alen
I really think tt it is not a matter of "verbal". I mean we do not have to go ard telling ppl, tt "hey, I no longer am practising what YOU are practising".
Its a matter of belonging I guess tts making us feel alone ~I remember then when every Eid, we, the whole family will flock to the nearest field to perform the Eid prayers, it was so joyful......I really feel tt you are part of a society. Now, I no longer perfrom the Eid prayers (ritual) ..... the first year tt I did not perform the Eid prayers ..... I felt so "empty" ..... but I don't anymore cos I understand the meaning of "sholat" and Eid prayers simply a ritual.
Alen, all you really need is Blessing from the Lord..... You are not alone in this and may the Lord shower you with all his Grace and Blessings ....
Isis ~ out