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Usage of "We" to mean God

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    unknownuser
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    Peace be upon you Saladin,

    i have a little confusion abt the "life is illusion" topic . gotta study it again when i get the time . will tell u then .

    i said "i think" because i was not sure if "we" refers to God or both God and angels . i dont want to force myself to "know" when i dont know .

    Respected, I look foward to hearing your views after you study the topic of this illusory world. Also, do not limit your "thinking" to only those two options that you stated regarding "WE", because if you DON'T KNOW, then all options should be open so you listen to all views and follow the Best as this reading(quran) instructs us to do.

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      Meteora
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      lol...after skimming through these posts I became confoozled.

      I think "We" is actually referring to God. The scriptures, the creation and wisdom all come from God and notice how "we" sent them according to the Quran. They are not angels...they just worship God and help out in wars (I think...)

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        Ahmad_Bilal
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        lol...after skimming through these posts I became confoozled.

        I think "We" is actually referring to God. The scriptures, the creation and wisdom all come from God and notice how "we" sent them according to the Quran. They are not angels...they just worship God and help out in wars (I think...)

        I don't know... The scriptures state that Moses is the ONLY prophet that Allah spoke to directly, without the use of any mediators. Therefore, everytime Allah speaks to Moses in the Qur'aan, the singular words "I" or "Me" are used. Also, everytime our worship of Allah is mentioned, God is always mentioned in the singular usage, never plural... The creation of Adam is always mentioned with Allah in the singular form, but with Jesus, the plural form is always used. This could be an indication that the plural is used when other entities, such as angelic beings and forces or even humans, play a part in the process. Here's a good perspective on this idea, in my opinion...

        http//www.masjidtucson.org/quran/appendices/appendix10.html

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          MUNZIR_ALI
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          lol...after skimming through these posts I became confoozled.

          I think "We" is actually referring to God. The scriptures, the creation and wisdom all come from God and notice how "we" sent them according to the Quran. They are not angels...they just worship God and help out in wars (I think...)

          thats my opinion too!

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            Rev_John
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            I don't know... The scriptures state that Moses is the ONLY prophet that Allah spoke to directly, without the use of any mediators. Therefore, everytime Allah speaks to Moses in the Qur'aan, the singular words "I" or "Me" are used. Also, everytime our worship of Allah is mentioned, God is always mentioned in the singular usage, never plural... The creation of Adam is always mentioned with Allah in the singular form, but with Jesus, the plural form is always used. This could be an indication that the plural is used when other entities, such as angelic beings and forces or even humans, play a part in the process. Here's a good perspective on this idea, in my opinion...

            http//www.masjidtucson.org/quran/appendices/appendix10.html

            Interesting argument. I think you may be right, I must research that.

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              Meteora
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              thats my opinion too!

              sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun o

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                afridi220
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                sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun

                Now i know why it is so hot over here &

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                  Rev_John
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                  Now i know why it is so hot over here &

                  And I was always under the impression there was only one sun wow

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                    TheJoker
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                    Quran wasn't a fallen book from the sky, it was sent through a medium (jibreel), thus the use of 'we'.

                    297 is a good sign.

                    Jibreel is the one "speaking", i.e. not The God per se. To me, at this juncture, I is a 'direct quote'.

                    Look at the first chapter, is that The God talking?

                    Re Moses

                    I disagree. Look at 1851, the I is used. If you notice how the we is used in 1850 and the I is used in 1851...

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sun o

                      How can the earth orbit 12 stars? Question is directed at rev john!

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                        How can the earth orbit 12 stars? Question is directed at rev john!

                        A cluster of 12 stars in one system is unknown and unlikely due to the complicated orbits they would have around each other, but not impossible. A planet could, theoretically orbit 12 stars, but it would be unlikely that life would exist due to the massive temperature changes and gravitational changes.

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                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                          A cluster of 12 stars in one system is unknown and unlikely due to the complicated orbits they would have around each other, but not impossible. A planet could, theoretically orbit 12 stars, but it would be unlikely that life would exist due to the massive temperature changes and gravitational changes.

                          handshake its good to ask an expert in my opinion! I will keep asking questions if its ok with you! handshake peace

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                            Rev_John
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                            handshake its good to ask an expert in my opinion! I will keep asking questions if its ok with you! handshake peace

                            No problem, it keeps my brain working

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                              MUNZIR_ALI
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                              No problem, it keeps my brain working

                              Thank you sir! group

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                                Rev_John
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                                Thank you sir! group

                                No, thank you for helping my brain laugh

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                                  Meteora
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                                  I posted 12 suns. Our sun is a star and there are billions of stars in this galaxy and there are millions of galaxies in the universe. I have a pic to prove it.

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                                    Rev_John
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                                    I posted 12 suns. Our sun is a star and there are billions of stars in this galaxy and there are millions of galaxies in the universe. I have a pic to prove it.

                                    There are 100 billion stars in our galaxy and millions of millions of galaxies that we know of in the universe.

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      There are 100 billion stars in our galaxy and millions of millions of galaxies that we know of in the universe.

                                      Our galaxy hasn't yet entered to rapid star formation phase! I mean antromeda galaxy may have a trillion stars! wow

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