Salat according to G A Parwez
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To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God.This can be construed as Idolatory?
No.
And Muhammad is now dead. How do you obey dead man?
Regards,
Good question !
My opinion is that the best way to obey him is to reason the same way he did ; i.e to follow the quran.
(cf , )Peace
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No.
To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God.This can be construed as Idolatory?
No.
You say "To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God". Obeying another human being instead of God is Idolatory.
And Muhammad is now dead. How do you obey dead man?
Good question !
My opinion is that the best way to obey him is to reason the same way he did ; i.e to follow the quran.
(cf , )
PeaceBut I don't want to obey a dead man. I would rather obey God if I can. If Muhammad is dead then to obey Muhammand is irrelvant! It does not apply...
Regards,
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No.
To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God.This can be construed as Idolatory?
No.
You say "To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God". Obeying another human being instead of God is Idolatory.
What do you do of the following verses
No, by your Lord, they will not believe until they make you judge in what they dispute with each other, then they will not find in their souls any animosity for what you have decided, and they will yield completely.
Those who follow the Gentile messenger prophet whom they find written for them in the Torah and the Injeel; he orders them to goodness, and deters them from evil, and he makes lawful for them the good things, and he forbids for them the evil, and he removes their burden and the shackles that are upon them. So those who believe in him, and honour him, and support him, and follow the light that was sent down with him; these are the successful.
To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God because Muhammad did obey God.
Peace
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To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God because Muhammad did obey God.
PeaceWhether Muhammad obeyed God is not the issue here. How does obeying mere mortal like Muhammad is obeying God? Why make obeying Muhammad akin to obeying God. This is idolatory. When not obey God alone?
Regards,
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To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God because Muhammad did obey God.
PeaceWhether Muhammad obeyed God is not the issue here. How does obeying mere mortal like Muhammad is obeying God? Why make obeying Muhammad akin to obeying God. This is idolatory. When not obey God alone?
Regards,
What do you do of verses and ?
And of verses like
obey God and the messenger so that you may obtain mercy.Is God promoting idolatry ?
Peace
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peace be upon you all,
just to offer some thoughts, obey the messenger refers to obeying whoever delivers the message or it can be taken as "obey the message", for example I send to you a telegram through the mailman telling you to do something, you do it, you're obeying me but likewise obeying the one who conveyed it to you, anyways this is actually the main crucial point of debate between "sunnis" and "quran aloners"
p.s.- we are likewise told to obey the "authority amongst us" and our parents as long as they do not tell you to do something that will make you disobey The God, basically what I'm trying to say is obediance is only idolatry when you are taking orders that will make you trangress The God (that is shirk or partnership)
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To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God because Muhammad did obey God.
PeaceWhether Muhammad obeyed God is not the issue here. How does obeying mere mortal like Muhammad is obeying God? Why make obeying Muhammad akin to obeying God. This is idolatory. When not obey God alone?
Regards,
What do you do of verses and ?
And of verses like
obey God and the messenger so that you may obtain mercy.Is God promoting idolatry ?
Peace
Perhaps those verses do not apply to us because Muhammad is dead?
Muhammad death made those verses redundant?Regards,
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Peace all,
Surely one can still obey the messenger by only following the scripture. One has to submit to the commands begining with "9ul" or "say", as they are commands from the god to the messenger to "tell" some informations to the audience.
So for the messenger to be dead or alive is of little importance to the message itself, as long as we have the scripture.
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Greetings,
So what you are saing that God is asking us to be completely obedient to Muhammad and not God?
No.
To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God.Please don't change what the quran says. God could have easily said so viz. "To obey Muhammad tantamounts to obey God" if that was God's desire. I think it is wickedness to change the words and promotion of idolatry.
Anwar Azim