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Intepretation of 74:30-31 before Code19 ?

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    Natu
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    Hello Saladin!

    I don't know the arabic, but looking at bro Ayman's debate with Edip, it appears that is consistently translated as Count rather than counting. BTW, how come you ask?

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      salam Natu
      cuz you are saying that "counting" of 19 is a trial , i thought the verse said that the "count"(i.e 19) is the trail . what do u think ?

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        Bahman
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        Peace Noah,

        Why do you apply the following method?

        1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 and 5+5 = 10 (1+0 = 1)

        The +19 people apply this kind of method to 'confirm things', are you involved in that too?

        Nural

        No i find it to be utterly ridiculous. The same with astrology. But that however does not mean that i am ill informed about how it works, and what it means.
        Noah Peace

        Peace

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          Bahman
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          Peace be upon you,

          Can the number "19" be considered as the count from 1 to 9?

          Peace D

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            Bahman
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            salam Natu
            cuz you are saying that "counting" of 19 is a trial , i thought the verse said that the "count"(i.e 19) is the trail . what do u think ?

            Peace D

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              Fahad1
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              salam Natu and all .
              does 7431 say "count" or "counting" ?

              Hello Saladin!

              I don't know the arabic, but looking at bro Ayman's debate with Edip, it appears that is consistently translated as Count rather than counting. BTW, how come you ask?

              Saladin
              salam Natu
              cuz you are saying that "counting" of 19 is a trial , i thought the verse said that the "count"(i.e 19) is the trail . what do u think ?

              'count'(i.e 19) or 'counting' ?

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                Peace Noah,

                Why do you apply the following method?

                1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 and 5+5 = 10 (1+0 = 1)

                The +19 people apply this kind of method to 'confirm things', are you involved in that too?

                Nural

                No i find it to be utterly ridiculous. The same with astrology. But that however does not mean that i am ill informed about how it works, and what it means.
                Noah Peace

                Peace D

                Yes yes and here is how it can be used in effect.

                B A H M A N
                66 65 72 77 65 78 - as ASCII values
                3 2 9 5 2 6 - digits added
                _/ _/ _/ _/ _____/
                3 2 9 5 8 - digits added

                Thus, "bahman" is 32958.

                Turn the number backwards, subtract 1895 - the year Rudolph Hess was born. The number is now 84028.

                Add 46 to it - this is the year of the Great Fire of Rome, written backwards - you will get 84074.

                Subtract 2191 from the number - this is the year Theodore Roosevelt was shot, written backwards. It gives 81883.

                Subtract 1531, the year Richard Roose was conveniently boiled to death for trying to poison an archbishop. The result will be 80352.

                Turn the number backwards, divide by 38 - the symbol of slavery. The number is now 666.

                The number 666 is the number of the Beast.

                So this must conslusively prove that you are evil as sin. I guess not. You can make numbers do ANYTHING you want them to.

                As for astrology im ofcourse talking about tabloid horoscopes and money makers. Lets get real. The sun makes up for 98% of known matter in our solar system if i reckall right. If that think have a hickup we will be shorched and all electrnics on earth will be toast. Altso the moon influence on gravity.

                Let me tell you something cool. Jupiter have such a strong gravitational pull that whenever it gets in certain engles from the sun. it pulls the sun 4 degrees. That is some serious pulling power that planet has. I for one belive that all this talk about astroids hitting earth is crap. Because anything of a large enough size to do considerable damage would be pulled right into jupiter. I often wondered if that is why jupiter in the old days was a god who was "the protector of heavens".

                Most theology on the face of the earth is based on astrology in fact. But the whole idea that our faith is somehow written in the stars. Or in numbers is totally ridiculous, and no amount of "evidence" (that are in fact just play on terms within maths itself) will ever change that.

                Peace
                Noah

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                  Peace be upon you all,

                  Astrology is the effect that the planetary bodies have on the earth. I have ALWAYS rejected it, until I opened my mind to it and started to really study it. I am talking about the true science of it, not some newspaper horoscope. I am talking about a astrological chart done by professionals. Also, I am discussing the SIDERAL form of astrology.

                  I will repeat, astrology is the effect that the planetary bodies have on the earth. For those who may have forgotten, we are created from the earth. Anyone who has toothe aches can understand how the nighttime effects the pain, or how rain effects other types of ailments. How a long stretch of days without sun brings depression, how the sunshine brings happiness. And these are small things.

                  I just started a class on tuesday about it, so I will be bringing a new thread about this sometime in the future, unless the God wills.

                  But lastly, just ponder on why the God says they heavenly bodies are subject to us. Everything serves the human being.

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                    Bahman
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                    Peace Noah,

                    Why do you apply the following method?

                    1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 and 5+5 = 10 (1+0 = 1)

                    The +19 people apply this kind of method to 'confirm things', are you involved in that too?

                    Nural

                    No i find it to be utterly ridiculous. The same with astrology. But that however does not mean that i am ill informed about how it works, and what it means.
                    Noah Peace

                    Peace D

                    Yes yes and here is how it can be used in effect.

                    B A H M A N
                    66 65 72 77 65 78 - as ASCII values
                    3 2 9 5 2 6 - digits added
                    _/ _/ _/ _/ _____/
                    3 2 9 5 8 - digits added

                    Thus, "bahman" is 32958.

                    Turn the number backwards, subtract 1895 - the year Rudolph Hess was born. The number is now 84028.

                    Add 46 to it - this is the year of the Great Fire of Rome, written backwards - you will get 84074.

                    Subtract 2191 from the number - this is the year Theodore Roosevelt was shot, written backwards. It gives 81883.

                    Subtract 1531, the year Richard Roose was conveniently boiled to death for trying to poison an archbishop. The result will be 80352.

                    Turn the number backwards, divide by 38 - the symbol of slavery. The number is now 666.

                    The number 666 is the number of the Beast.

                    So this must conslusively prove that you are evil as sin. I guess not. You can make numbers do ANYTHING you want them to.

                    Peace.

                    Of course you can do that specially with this creature you can find many numbers in any field and glued together and finally reach to some result we like.. I showed you just simply such adding up and decreasing it to smaller digit is part of mathematics.
                    That is numerology which you are mixing human properties which I do not believe in such jumbo mombo.

                    But I have find several patterns in Quran text patterns which with casting 9 out results in code 19 or 7.
                    Just watch following closely.

                    Only in seven verses among 6346 verses is authored that seven universe and seven earths was created in 6 days.
                    7+54,+10+3,+11+7,+25+59,+32+4,+50+38,+57+4=361=3+6+1=10=1+0=1 7+5+4+1+0+3+1+1+7+2+5+5+9+3+2+4+5+0+3+8+5+7+4=91=9+1=10=1+0=1
                    http//y19.net/619-3.html

                    When I used such method 5 years ago I had no clue why I did it., later when I used same method for code 7 I was accused using numerology.

                    This case caused I search and found such method is accepted as mathematic.

                    During my search for this post I reached to this topic.

                    6 letters
                    6 days creation in 7 verses http//y19.net/code7uni.html

                    1+30+200+8+40+50=329= 7x47
                    3+2+9=14=7x2
                    1320084050+55=1302004105=7x186012015
                    1+2+0+0+4+1+0+5=14=7x2
                    Sura 988=19x52
                    Verse 2033=19x107
                    107+52=159* = 7x2+19x1
                    Sura numbers added+766
                    Verse number added=767
                    766+767=1533=7x219
                    7455=7x1065
                    55+74+30=159*
                    10 Jan 2004
                    1012004=7x144572
                    You see that nothing is out of Quran. Which makes this scripture unique for its superhuman self protection patterns .
                    You may be interested to see all
                    http//19.org/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=2088&rid=0&S=cb9e94a1c4b92855ca1273a8555ccf1b#msg_11194

                    As for astrology im ofcourse talking about tabloid horoscopes and money makers.

                    I agree.

                    Lets get real. The sun makes up for 98% of known matter in our solar system if i reckall right. If that think have a hickup we will be shorched and all electrnics on earth will be toast. Altso the moon influence on gravity.

                    Agree

                    Let me tell you something cool. Jupiter have such a strong gravitational pull that whenever it gets in certain engles from the sun. it pulls the sun 4 degrees. That is some serious pulling power that planet has. I for one belive that all this talk about astroids hitting earth is crap. Because anything of a large enough size to do considerable damage would be pulled right into jupiter. I often wondered if that is why jupiter in the old days was a god who was "the protector of heavens".

                    You mean nasa information is wrong shock
                    http//neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/

                    Most theology on the face of the earth is based on astrology in fact. But the whole idea that our faith is somehow written in the stars. Or in numbers is totally ridiculous, and no amount of "evidence" (that are in fact just play on terms within maths itself) will ever change that
                    .
                    I agree with you but in case is claimed that book is authored by Creator of heaven and earth protected by a code then is different from name and properties of a human.
                    Peace bahman

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                      You mean nasa information is wrong Shocked
                      http//neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/

                      Dont be sad. its not the first time that has happened. within the last 2 yaras i know of several fake photos produced by them. Photoshopped mars images, change of gractial pull bumbers (that can be cponfirmed from telescopes all over the world, not just Nasa is looking into the stars) so yes, not only do i think they lie, i have a good reason to.

                      I think its about getting mroie money (hey look a dangerous astroid, we better shoot something at it). create a little fear in people and they will allow you to do anything to them.

                      As for the other stuff. look. Math is only provable within its own terms. Maths is nothing but yet another futile attempt on our behalf at understand God. Am i against math, nOt at all.. But numerology is a duck, always was, always will be. Numbers will do anything. And if you limit yourself by certain rules like only multiplying to the right etc. They are just that. you own rules, and it makes the game no different from single people cardgames.

                      Peace
                      Noah

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                        Bahman
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                        You mean nasa information is wrong Shocked
                        http//neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/

                        Dont be sad. its not the first time that has happened. within the last 2 yaras i know of several fake photos produced by them. Photoshopped mars images, change of gractial pull bumbers (that can be cponfirmed from telescopes all over the world, not just Nasa is looking into the stars) so yes, not only do i think they lie, i have a good reason to.

                        I think its about getting mroie money (hey look a dangerous astroid, we better shoot something at it). create a little fear in people and they will allow you to do anything to them.

                        As for the other stuff. look. Math is only provable within its own terms. Maths is nothing but yet another futile attempt on our behalf at understand God. Am i against math, nOt at all.. But numerology is a duck, always was, always will be. Numbers will do anything. And if you limit yourself by certain rules like only multiplying to the right etc. They are just that. you own rules, and it makes the game no different from single people cardgames.

                        Peace
                        Noah

                        Salaam
                        Do you believe in Quran?
                        Peace.

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                          Salaam
                          Do you believe in Quran?
                          Peace.

                          Yes i belive in what the Quran says

                          Peace
                          Noah

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                            Bahman
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                            Salaam
                            Do you believe in Quran?
                            Peace.

                            Yes i belive in what the Quran says

                            Peace
                            Noah

                            Peace
                            If any of them sneaks around to listen, a mighty projectile will chase him back.15-18

                            If any of them ventures to charge the outer limits, he gets struck with a fierce projectile.3710

                            You get bombarded with projectiles of fire and metal, and you cannot win.
                            5535

                            We adorned the lowest universe with lamps, and guarded its borders with projectiles against the devils; we prepared for them a retribution in Hell.67-5

                            `We touched the heaven and found it filled with formidable guards and projectiles.72-8

                            " `We used to sit there in order to spy. Anyone who listens is pursued by a powerful projectile.72-9
                            bahman
                            peace

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                              Salaam
                              Do you believe in Quran?
                              Peace.

                              Yes i belive in what the Quran says

                              Peace
                              Noah

                              Peace
                              If any of them sneaks around to listen, a mighty projectile will chase him back.15-18

                              If any of them ventures to charge the outer limits, he gets struck with a fierce projectile.3710

                              You get bombarded with projectiles of fire and metal, and you cannot win.
                              5535

                              We adorned the lowest universe with lamps, and guarded its borders with projectiles against the devils; we prepared for them a retribution in Hell.67-5

                              `We touched the heaven and found it filled with formidable guards and projectiles.72-8

                              " `We used to sit there in order to spy. Anyone who listens is pursued by a powerful projectile.72-9
                              bahman
                              peace

                              ????

                              peace
                              noah

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                                Bahman
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                                Salaam

                                You rejected Nasa reports

                                Dont be sad. its not the first time that has happened. within the last 2 yaras i know of several fake photos produced by them. Photoshopped mars images, change of gractial pull bumbers (that can be cponfirmed from telescopes all over the world, not just Nasa is looking into the stars) so yes, not only do i think they lie, i have a good reason to.

                                how about those verses in Quran?
                                Peace.

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                                  Salaam

                                  You rejected Nasa reports

                                  Dont be sad. its not the first time that has happened. within the last 2 yaras i know of several fake photos produced by them. Photoshopped mars images, change of gractial pull bumbers (that can be cponfirmed from telescopes all over the world, not just Nasa is looking into the stars) so yes, not only do i think they lie, i have a good reason to.

                                  how about those verses in Quran?
                                  Peace.

                                  I see no connection what so ever. if youre trying to draw one, please explain.

                                  Peace
                                  Noah

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                                    Salaam

                                    You rejected Nasa reports

                                    Dont be sad. its not the first time that has happened. within the last 2 yaras i know of several fake photos produced by them. Photoshopped mars images, change of gractial pull bumbers (that can be cponfirmed from telescopes all over the world, not just Nasa is looking into the stars) so yes, not only do i think they lie, i have a good reason to.

                                    how about those verses in Quran?
                                    Peace.

                                    I see no connection what so ever. if youre trying to draw one, please explain. )

                                    Peace
                                    Noah

                                    Salaam
                                    You wrote

                                    I for one belive that all this talk about astroids hitting earth is crap. Because anything of a large enough size to do considerable damage would be pulled right into jupiter.

                                    I posted Nasa report and you rejected then I posted verse from Quran about astroids.
                                    Is it clear now?
                                    Peace.

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                                      oh so YOUR understanding of those verses is astroids hitting earth. I dont have a problem with that )

                                      Peace
                                      Noah

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