Jesus - A Prophet, A Messenger, A Word and A Spirit from God
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Greetings Tony,
Thanks for your reply?
Isn't it that the christian trinity (or triune God) is the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, wherein the "son" connotes "Son of God"?
Based on the above verse, Jesus is whose son?
Where does it say in the verse that "Allah" = word, son & spirit?
Good questions.
Let?s look?
? You The Book's people, do not exaggerate/exceed the limit in your religion,
? ?wa? and do not say on Allah except the truth,
? but the Messiah, Jesus,
? Mary's son
? Allah's messenger
? ?wa? and His Word
? He threw it away to Mary,
? ?wa? a Soul/Spirit from Him;
? ?fa? so believe with Allah,
? ?wa? and His messengers,
? ?wa? and do not say "Three." Stop (it is) best for you,
? but Allah (is) one Allah,
? ?yakoona? verily he shall be a child for Him
? what (is) in the skies/space
? ?wa? and what (is) in the earth/Planet Earth, enough/sufficient with Allah (as a) guardian/protector.It is clear from the text that Jesus is both Mary?s and (in this case) ?allah?s? son.
Same theme copied from the Holy Bible.
Observe that Jesus is not merely ?allah?s messenger; but he is also ?wa? his Word.
Same theme copied from the Holy Bible.
Furthermore, the ?allah? of the Koran is shown to have a Spirit which is also imputed into Jesus.
Same theme copied from the Holy Bible.
Thus?.we have just witnessed three elements of ?allah?.
Now...look what is stated next?
?do not say "Three."
Why should we not say that ?allah? is three when we were just told of three elements that pertain to him?.?
Here?s why?
Because?
?Allah (is) one Allah?
What a novel idea.
Sound familiar?.?
It should, as it is lifted right out of the Holy Bible.
Furthermore?look at what the text states after this?
?verily he shall be a child for Him?
Rock-solid Biblical confirmation that Jesus is God's son!!!
I have to ask; can it really get much clearer than this for the die-hard Muslim?.?!
Straight from their very own book of faith?
No more excuses...
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"Say O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah. If then they turn back, say ye Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will). " - Qur'an 364
SON OF GOD - Only Jesus??
Jacob is God's son and firstborn "Israel is my son, even my firstborn" Exodus 422.
Solomon is God's son "He shall build an house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son" 2 Samuel 713-14.
Ephraim is God's firstborn "for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn." Jeremiah 319 (who is God's firstborn? Israel or Ephraim?).
David is called the begotten son of God
"I will declare the decree the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." - Psalms 27Adam is the son of God "Adam, which was the son of God." Luke 338.
Common people (you and me) are the sons of God "Ye are the children of the LORD your God" Deuteronomy 141. "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God" Romans 814. "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, to them that believe on his name" John 112. "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 215. "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God ... now are we the sons of God" 1 John 31-2. "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" Job 387. "Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD," Job 21. "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD," Job 16. "when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men," Genesis 64. "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they fair" Genesis 62
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SON OF GOD - Only Jesus??
Thanks for those verses shuab.
Joh 36 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit
Adam is the son of God "Adam, which was the son of God." Luke 338.
1Co 1545 And so it is written, The first man Adam as made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit
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Salaams all,
sooo many contraditions - how many would these people refute?????????
Matthew
Mark
Luke
JohnWho carried the cross?
Simon of Cyrene (2731)
Simon of Cyrene (1521)
Simon of Cyrene (2326)
Only Jesus himself carried the cross (1917)What time was Jesus crucified?
Not mentioned
9 a.m. Jesus died on the 3rd hour (1525)
Not mentioned
12 p.m. Jesus died on the 6th hour(1914-15)
On which day was Jesus crucified?
First day of Passover (2620-30)
First day of Passover (1417-25)
First day of Passover (2214-23)
The day before Passover(1828,1914)
Did Jesus drink on the cross
Yes
No
Not mentioned
YesDid either of the thieves believe in Jesus?
Neither believed in Jesus (2744)
Neither believed in Jesus (1532)
Only one thief believed in Jesus(2339-41)
Not mentionedWhat were Jesus? last words?
Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? ? My god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me? (2746)
Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? ? My god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me? (1534)
Father, in to thy hands I commend my spirit (2346)
It is finished (1930)Had the sun risen when the women entered the tomb?
It was towards dawn on the first day of the week
Yes ? the sun had risen when they entered the tomb (161)
At early dawn they went to the tomb (2356)
No ? Mary came to the tomb early when it was still dark (1939)How many people went to the tomb Sunday morning following the crucifixion?
Two (281)
Three (161)
More than four (2410)
One (201)How many angels were in the tomb?
One (282)
One (165)
Two (244)
Two(201-2, 12)
Does Mary wish to tell the disciples?
Yes (28
No (16
Yes (249)
Yes (201After seeing the angels, who does Mary see first?
Jesus (289)
Jesus (169)
The disciples (244-9)
Jesus (2014)Where does the post resurrection appearance take place?
On the way to Jerusalem, after fleeing the tomb (289)
Does not say where, but indicates after leaving the tomb (168-9)
Emmaus (2413, 1
At the tomb (201, 11-14)How many times did Jesus appear after the resurrection?
Twice(289-10)
(2817-20)
Three times(169)
(1612)
(1614-1
Twice(2413-31)
(2436-51)
Four times(2014-17)
(2019-23)
(2026-29)
(211-23)
Mark was the first of the four gospels to be written. It was written in the time for early Christians who were facing persecution. It is well known that each of the four gospel writers put their own spin on the Jesus story. Matthew seems to show the Jewish side of Jesus more than anything else, which was in aid of the Jewish wing of the early church. However, Luke came from a completely different angle, coming from the Roman view. He packaged his book full of teachings and miracles to show that any civilised Roman of that time could trust in Jesus.
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So Called Errors in the Bible Explained
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3825 -
So Called Errors in the Bible Explained
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3825 -
Hi mate,
lets have a go
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3859 ?
Gods Blessings.
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thanks mz357... The So called errors you copied from a Muslim propaganda site will be researched and addressed one by one over the coming weeks and the List in the Christian Forum will be updated accordingly.
But try to keep to the rules of this Forum and post in the right section