Sex more for pleasure than procreation?
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I can say that in the first paragraph, the generalization that non-human animals derive pleasure from being homosexual may be wrong. I've heard people cite cases of homosexual animals but I'll have to check again whether these are special cases or not. I need to do some reading about it.
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Peace b eupon you,
We should not use animals as reasons to commit transgression. We have the ability to reprogram our Spirits(nafs), we are the Khalifas. Our job is to transcend the animal level. This is why the God compares the ignorant as animals, nay even worse.
Even changes some to apes and swine, metaphorically of course.
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good points guys,
see.. now i'm confused
if people are born gay, they have a natural sexual preference,
i've believed that homosexuality is a sin, or at least the acts (sodomy..etc.). It doesn't seem fair...any information would be good, i dont think i'll find much elsewaer
peace,
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good points guys,
see.. now i'm confused
if people are born gay, they have a natural sexual preference,
i've believed that homosexuality is a sin, or at least the acts (sodomy..etc.). It doesn't seem fair...any information would be good, i dont think i'll find much elsewaer
peace,
I know it's hard to swallow at times but for me, just because something is 'natural' does not mean that it's morally right. I know this is problematic. People start to question the benevolence of God when this option is raised.
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good points guys,
see.. now i'm confused
if people are born gay, they have a natural sexual preference,
i've believed that homosexuality is a sin, or at least the acts (sodomy..etc.). It doesn't seem fair...any information would be good, i dont think i'll find much elsewaer
peace,
I know it's hard to swallow at times but for me, just because something is 'natural' does not mean that it's morally right. I know this is problematic. People start to question the benevolence of God when this option is raised.
Oh no this going to be another homosexuality argument!
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SaLaM
Anal Sex is not a curse nor is it wrong just becoz animals do it. Animals also eat and take a dump, should that be haram as well for humans? Ive never heard even 1 intelligent argument against anal sex. And as far the "dieases from anal sex" goes, yes it happens, just like some are alergic to medicine and fur or cats or dogs. There are bound to be people who dont prefer anal sex. So what? Should cats and dogs and medicine also be banned becoz a few people are allergic to it?
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SaLaM
Anal Sex is not a curse nor is it wrong just becoz animals do it. Animals also eat and take a dump, should that be haram as well for humans? Ive never heard even 1 intelligent argument against anal sex. And as far the "dieases from anal sex" goes, yes it happens, just like some are alergic to medicine and fur or cats or dogs. There are bound to be people who dont prefer anal sex. So what? Should cats and dogs and medicine also be banned becoz a few people are allergic to it?
Hey you are not promoting anal sex are you?
Regards,
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Peace be upon you,
I was thinking, do animals really have anal sex or just have sex from that position? I realized I do not really know that answer.
But anyway, the intelligent agrument is that anal sex easily produces disease. We cannot compare that to an allergy. One does not WILLFULLY seek allergies while there are people who WILLFULLY seek anal sex only to produces pleasure at the risk of illness, just like one trying Crack Cocaine.
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Salaam,
ops ops ops
Peace
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Peace be upon you Sister,
I am sorry for the direct speech, but we must address the issues of real life.
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peace all
Andya, I would be interested in knowing what you find out. I do cat and dog rescue, and I've had three cats that had what seemed like homosexual tendencies. They showed no interest in females and would try to mate only with other males. After neutering, they stopped this behavior, which made me think it wasn't dominance behavior (as it is with dogs, regardless of gender), but a sexual preference of some sort.
I also wonder if this has anything to do with being around a higher number of other cats than they would if they were, say, left on their own in the wild. I am careful about setting limits to avoid crowding the cats and causing aggressive or anxious behavior. So everybody has plenty of room, but they do naturally share their overall territory and have a wider choice of "social" interactions.
Idolfree, you are right about position. Animals do not engage in sodomy. And, yes, it is just biology.
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Peace be upon you Sytalls,
Thanks for the confirmation regarding sodomy.
Also, when I was young, a male dog "approched" my male dog. I remember it so well because the owner of the other dog asked me if my dog was female, and when I responded that my dog was male, he asked me not to do anything because he wanted my dog to turn and start attacking his dog. My dog did not attack, but looked sort of confused while he tried to walk away from the other dog.
It was a terrible experience for me. I always think back that I should have kicked the &^%$ out of that guys dog. evil
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Peace Idolfree.
Hard to know what to do in some situations, isn't it? shock
If it helps any, that other dog's action wasn't sexually motivated. Dogs mount other dogs as a sign of dominance--both males and females exhibit this behavior. Since your dog sounds like he was well-behaved, he was probably waiting for you to kick the other dog's butt. lol That's why he looked confused. As the alpha, you're supposed to be the one putting others in their place. It's a pack thing.
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Peace be upon you Sytalls,
You are packed with all kinds of info!! Thanks for helping my understanding.
On another note, I will be getting back in touch with you soon with the project you were going to help me with. I had to step back for a moment to adjust my understanding for a moment, as well as deal with the ongoing personal issues of life. But I am getting back on track yet again.
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Peace Br Kyle,
No problem but sometime I'll have to blush.
Peace
Sis Majidah -
Peace be upon you Sister,
No problem but sometime I'll have to blush.
Thats fine D
By the way, is that you in the picture? I cant really see it that clearly, but just wondering if that was SwedenMajidah?
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Salaam Br Kyle,
Yes it's me, I didn't found a better picture.
And the problem is that I'll have to minimize it to fit in here.Peace
Sis Majidah
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Peace,
We should not use animals as reasons to commit transgression. We have the ability to reprogram our Spirits(nafs), we are the Khalifas. Our job is to transcend the animal level. This is why the God compares the ignorant as animals, nay even worse.
Well said.Can I just say that, if there's any research (being) done on animals on this issue... please take domesticated animals out of the equation. idea