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    ichephren
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    What made you change your mind? Was there one specific concept that opened your mind to the Quranic way of life? It seems like every Sunni who has been on this site to argue refuses to "see" and almost nothing will correct them. So, what was it that changed your mind...or were you always open to other ideas? For me, I was a convert who had never really incorporated much of Sunnism anyway, so when I read many of the hadiths, it was easy for me to discard them. I am generally open minded as it is, so that also helped. I don't know if this question is better asked on another forum, so do forgive )

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      savage_carrot
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      Peace,

      Interesting question. Personally, I was never much into 'rituals' and accepting stories without sense to them, and when told of tradition and how I should follow it as without it the quran can't be explained, it was a red flag. I think what is the most difficult for most is to read the quran on it's own without taking on other sources as add ons. Once I did that, the quran was clear in what it was saying and everything else made sense. The main problem is this, coupled with the fact that breaking away from what everyone around you is doing, you become the oddball, then come the questions and the general dislike of what you have become...it's also the collective mentality...breaking away is not tolerated, and minds become shut to any reasoning you give.
      On the otherhand I also know of people who were into the traditional way, but when shown reasoning, changed their mind. I think it's about thinking and reasoning. Anyone capable of doing that sincerely without ulterior motives can see the alternative and make up their minds as to what is more sound. Just my thoughts on the subject.

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        unknownuser
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        Assalamo alaikum!

        I was sunni for about 2 years before God showed me this way. I was'nt really strict sunni in the beginning, then some time later me and my friends started joining a real "extremist" room in paltalk, and got friends there etc... Then i started following some extreme hadiths/ahadith; as don't shaking hand with men and so on. I had contact with a brother who only belived in God alone, when we argued about these questions i discovered i couldnt argue against him; it was questions when hadiths/ahadith went against Koran, as doing salat loudly and not whispering, the dog and so on... So i started reading about this. I started understand Koran-verses where God tells us not to follow any hadith but the Koran. Another important thing that led me to were i stand now, is that i noticed that the Koran-translation i read was "translated" to match with "sunnah"!
        Alhamdulillah=)

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          zenje
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          I used to follow rituals and hadith. Maybe not all of em, but I would have this thing about following Fardh (obligatory) first, and then sunna (which I considered secondary). I didn't read much of hadith, and I think I used accept a lot of what I was told when I was a lot younger. I start reading the quran at one point (Yusuf Ali translation), and was amazed at the content. I slowly found myself just reading the translated verses and ignoring the commentary and prefaces, etc. It took me a long time to change my view, and I also went through many 'battles'/debates with others and myself.

          But the day I found submission.org and later this site... I never turned back. That was very easy for me. I guess the years of reading quran made the transition almost inevitable.

          God guides. All praises due to GOD alone.

          Peace.

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            unknownuser
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            Peace be upon you,

            One must always keep thier mind open, if it is closed, nothing you can say or do will change thier condition. I would say that everyone who is here kept thier mind open.

            I also went through submission.org as well. Thier articles on hadith were just mindblowing. WHen I took them to the "Imam" and found he had no logical answer, I was left to search on my own, thank the God! D

            In fact, he did not even try to answer, he basically warned me of the internet! shock

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              Wakas
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              my inner compass.

              whenever i read something that disagreed with it, i had difficulty accepting it. it just so happened that all of the stuff that disagreed with my inner compass happened to be baseless/false tradition/culture nothing to do with islam. it took me a while but i gradually joined the dots and the picture became clearer - i was going to learn from The Teacher , not the students.

              I would like to say, the two biggest problems for traditionists, is

              1. their mindset (it has to be open, logical, reflective, questioning etc)

              2. the other is knowledge. I did a questionaaire once and asked traditionists about basic stuff on Islam and the results were a disgrace.

              I plan on fighting (2) via www.studyquran.org

              Wakas

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                Jafar
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                I 'convert' or more exactly 'bail out' from Sunniism upon pondering and realizing the truth on this 'prophetic' hadits from Muhammad Rasullulah..

                Abu Sayeed reported that the Messenger of Allah (SAW) said
                "You shall follow the practices of those before you, inch by inch and mile by mile, to the degree that if they enter into the hole of a lizard, you will follow them." He was asked "O Messenger of Allah (SAW), are they the Jews and Christians?" He replied "Who else?"

                IMHO today Suniism and also Shiaism = JudeoChristianism

                Too much 'invention' (bidah), clerical dogma and hearsay will surely leads to astray...

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                  ADIL
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                  We took the seed from the Quraan
                  And left the skin (nutshell) to kharan (donkeys)!

                  (Rumi)

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                    mquran
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                    Salaamun alaikum Ichepren,

                    So, what was it that changed your mind...or were you always open to other ideas?

                    I tried to maintain an open mind, yes. What really got me on board however, was the small disclosure of Al-Quran's conceptual power at the time.

                    There's something about al-quraan that its captures the essential nature of man. The more I see of it, the more I see it cuts through the illusions we carry and gets right down to the things which matter, that which will give us 'salaam' in this life and the next. It's a science of life authored by the one who wrote it in reality.

                    For a text to do that, to continously prophecise the destiny of man, this merits a continous and intense study of its contents.

                    I am amazed how Sunnis can say the quran is a mystery without sunna and hadith. Its only without sunna and hadith that al-quraan becomes prominent and can be put back into its place as the arbiter of mankind.

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                      SwedenMajidah
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                      Salaam all,

                      I was a very strong sunni a couple of years and followed the strict fourth scolar of sunni Imam Shafi.

                      I was extreme, I had no pictures of the wall if it wasn't the pictures of verses from Quran and so on.

                      I was covered from top to toe when I went out and if men visit our house.

                      I was very keen on details but not very fond of hadiths even if I was so extreme.

                      When I studied on my own I found first submission sites and became first angry when I read it but after awhile I became more curious and wanted more and I started to read Al-Quran on a daily base.

                      So slowly slowly I became the one I am today Al-Hamdulillah and I hope I will gain more and more knowledge Insha Allah.

                      Peace
                      Sis Majidah

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                        Jaxal
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                        SaLaM My Lovely Cutie Sweet Sis

                        Forgive me for going off-topic here, but i have to say. SM, i cant imagine how such a beautiful person, in both heart and beauty, like you could be living in such strict and ridiculous conditions. It makes me cry when i think about it.

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                          naxus
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                          Peace all I think the key for me was to be open minded i was and am always open to discussion i was a Deobandi from

                          my birth than a friend show me books of Hadiths n tell me that Deobandi,s r not following it right i was amused but

                          when i study it i agree with him n i start using Hadith i used to have a long beared i will wear the cloth over my

                          ankle i start offering ritual prayers the way Hadiths told me but i was not convinced i start finding problems in

                          Hadiths than i find submission.org it blow up my mind but there were two things whicih i didn,t feel right about

                          them one messengership of Rashid Khalifa n the other was the way of Salat i was not convinced than i went to 19.org

                          from there i found about Free minds i came to Free minds i think my first post was also here about Salat n i find my

                          answers here i have learn alot here i,m from Pakistan i,m all alone here n Free minds is like a home to me where i

                          find my brothers n sisters from whom i learn alot n Insahallah i will learn more thank u for reading Peace

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                            SwedenMajidah
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                            Salaam sweet Br Jaxal,

                            I'm also sorry if i go off topic!

                            I didn't want to put on me the hijjab from the beginning but my husband forced me. And then it was embarrasing to take it off.I weared it during 8 years.

                            I felt nude and all staring at me!

                            But now I have been without it for about 4 years.

                            Peace
                            Sis Majidah

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                              Elke
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                              Salam Majida,

                              much harder to take it of than to put it on ! My respect!

                              Elke

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                                SwedenMajidah
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                                Salaam sis Elke,

                                have you worn hijjab?

                                Peace
                                Sis Majidah

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                                  Elke
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                                  No never.

                                  I'm German and my way was through the code 19 - so there never was any pressure on me concerning hijab anyway.

                                  God bless, Elke

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                                    SwedenMajidah
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                                    Salaam Sis Elke,

                                    You have been lucky!

                                    Take Care!

                                    Peace
                                    Sis Majidah

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                                      Nural_Amin
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                                      Peace,

                                      I was watching a documentry on Islam on the bbc, it concluded that somewhere in middle east (I think Turkey), the 'muslim' scholars' are seeking a new interpretation of Islam that will be more accepted than the tradtitional so that the political powers can become members of the EU and other powerful groups.

                                      The kind of information on this thread could help a group like that, but when groups seek this information and have anything to do with politics, they normally use the knowledge to seek gain for only themselves and not the people.

                                      Nural

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        Assalamo alaikum!

                                        Sister, Majidah;
                                        I was covered from top to toe when I went out and if men visit our house.

                                        Did u wear niqab?

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                                          Jaxal
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                                          SaLaM

                                          I call it a ninjab - Ninja and Hijab Lolllllllllllll SM did u look something like this

                                          http//www.mecha.com/~conkle/images/ninjaB.jpg

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