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    Jaxal
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    SaLaM

    Some of the greatest painters painted nude art. Michaelangelo, Learndo, Raphael, Alma and many more. If it wasnt for the forum rules, i would put up a few of their paintings.

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      SwedenMajidah
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      salaam Br Jaxal,

      Hey you are really unbelievable, want to hang up nude art in here.

      Low down your gaze man! lol

      Peace
      Sis Majidah

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        Jaxal
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        SaLaM My Lovely Sis

        Its not nude art. ITs art of nude people. There is a difference

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          Fahad1
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          peace to all,

          I am an artist and I find nothing bad in nudity in the form of an art but I would like to know others opinion on this matter....

          peace

          peace.
          i find it bad . they draw all kind of sick stuff and call it "art" .

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            Jaxal
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            SaLaM Saladin

            Brother there is a difference between art and pornographic drawings.

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              Fahad1
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              SaLaM Saladin

              Brother there is a difference between art and pornographic drawings.

              like what ?
              peace.

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                warda
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                Salam Shams,

                just out of curiousity why do you want to paint nude art? What is it that makes nudity so attractive to artists?

                Me personally I don't want to see naked people either in real nor in paintings 'cause I feel ashamed. And I think we see too many naked or half naked bodys in the western world all around us.
                I prefer dressed people .

                Salams

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                  Elena
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                  Peace shamsul-arefin,

                  I don't find anything bad in nudity in the form of Art either, or in the beaches in summer.

                  I suppose the way we live from chilhood influences our impressions.
                  Art is studied without paying attention to what piece of art is with nude or dressed or landscapes or buildings. And you see nude bodies, even totally naked in beaches every year in the beaches in summer, thus, you find nothing strange, at least is those two circumstances, art and beaches.

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                    shamsul-arefin
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                    Salam Shams,

                    just out of curiousity why do you want to paint nude art? What is it that makes nudity so attractive to artists?

                    Me personally I don't want to see naked people either in real nor in paintings 'cause I feel ashamed. And I think we see too many naked or half naked bodys in the western world all around us.
                    I prefer dressed people ) .

                    Salams

                    I cant speak for all artist..but I think its not about a naked body or a lustful thought. Its more about emotion, life, expression and how they menifest in our nature. Nudity an pornography is totally different thing.

                    Like it doesnt matter to God if you are naked or dressed up as long as you are connected to Its system spiritualy. But all these dress issues we have are for our own convinence. But obviously as human community took a complex form so this dress thing became an issue.

                    peace

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                      SwedenMajidah
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                      Salaam all,

                      Well I believe that a true believer in God shall be modest and low down their gaze.

                      But with this I don't say that you'll have to wrapped your body into a tent or something like that.

                      When I'm at a beach I'm not nude or half nude like the rest of the visitors.

                      Peace
                      Sis Majidah

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                        Jaxal
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                        SaLaM Warda

                        As shamsul said, its not about a naked body or a lustful thought. Its more than that. For example

                        Zorn's painting called "Le Tub"

                        The colour intensity in that picture is just amazing. Its like white light giving off this array of beautiful colours which falls upon a young lady who is preparing to take a bath. THAT is Art. Not everyone can do it. But he has captured that moment in his painting.

                        Watts's Painting called Pursuing The Fata Morgana

                        This painting shows a man seemingly reaching out to grab Morgana who is flying away from him. But the way Watts has captured this is simply brilliant. Not too much space between them and yet not in his reach either. And the shades of colour used in this picture, well i dont even know the names of these colours.

                        Parish's painting called Lady_Violetta_and_the_Knave

                        In this picture Knave is looking over Lady Violetta. But the painter has painted this Lady to look out of this world. Almost angelic. Yet human. Again, the colours used to capture her look are amazing.

                        Raphael's painting called La_Fornarina

                        Here is a woman sitting half nude for her potrate. But look at the details. Every curve, her expression, the background and even the creases on her dress is perfect. Its nothing short of a real picture which is then turned to look like its been painted using Adobe.

                        Saladin, im sure if you google for these on the net, you might find these there. Dont think of it as pornography. ITs Art. A painter has gone through huge trouble to paint this potrayte. And it is not for his sexual pleasure. But a sign of his mastery of painting.

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                          I cant speak for all artist..but I think its not about a naked body or a lustful thought. Its more about emotion, life, expression and how they menifest in our nature. Nudity an pornography is totally different thing.

                          salam shamsul arefin .
                          those who draw "pornography" can also say the same thing that "its not about a naked body or a lustful thought. Its more about emotion, life, expression and how they menifest in our nature" .

                          Like it doesnt matter to God if you are naked or dressed up as long as you are connected to Its system spiritualy. But all these dress issues we have are for our own convinence. But obviously as human community took a complex form so this dress thing became an issue.

                          well , it does matter to God if u r naked or not . thats why God commanded to cover our bodies . thats His system .

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                            SaLaM Saladin

                            Brother will you agree that there is a difference in killing someone in cold blood and killing someone in self defence?

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                              Salams all,

                              I don't want to mix art and pornography either. I definitely see the difference between it.

                              Jaxal, I don't know these pictures you're writing about, but I guess if I would see them I'd think to myself Nice, but why is he/she naked? What's wrong with it if he /she would wear something, so that I don't feel so oops ...?

                              Don't know, I just don't get the point. If he is covered with a tiny cloth around his hips - isn't it art also to paint this piece how it is wrinkled up?

                              I don't want to be ignorant and maybe you can help me more to understand it.

                              Salam

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                                Jaxal
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                                SaLaM Warda

                                I don't want to be ignorant

                                Plz dont think like that. Think of it as something you dont quite understand. Like i am with maths lolllllllll. Ok i ill try to make you understand. Say for example, you are a doctor. And a patient comes to you with a problem in his/her private parts. Will you cover it up before you diagnose him/her? Ofcourse not. ITs your job. You are a doctor. Of human body. You dont care about the sexual nature of diagnosing ur patient's private parts. ITs ur job.

                                The same is with Artist and his/her Art. An artist wants to draw something and he/she draws it. He/she dont care if there are sexual parts all over the place becoz its ART. Learnado drew a human shoulder with all the nerves and muscle. It was one the first painting of the inner human body. He did it becoz he was curious about the human body. I have the painting and you can see all the muscle, nevers and bones. Its amazing to see how this man, in those times, drew something with such accruacy. There is a painting by JW Watherhouse. Its called "Apollo and Daphene". And you can see Apollo running after Daphne in a playful manner with a harp in his hand. Behind them you see river and the mountain covered by a tree. And you cant help notice the detail. Daphne also has her breast partially exposed but that is nothing compared to the complete beauty of the whole painting.

                                My email is [email protected] . Send me an email if you want to see the painting i was talking about. Im sure you will also realise the deapth of the painting instead of focusin on the sexual parts.

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                                  SaLaM Saladin

                                  Brother will you agree that there is a difference in killing someone in cold blood and killing someone in self defence?

                                  salam brother Jaxal.
                                  yes i agree .

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                                    SaLaM Saladin

                                    Then thats the difference between a pornographic drawing and Nude Art. Pornographic Graphic drawings are intentionally pornographic. Nude Art is just Art. Like any other painting. I hope you understand.

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                                      SaLaM Saladin

                                      Then thats the difference between a pornographic drawing and Nude Art. Pornographic Graphic drawings are intentionally pornographic. Nude Art is just Art. Like any other painting. I hope you understand.

                                      salam Jaxal .
                                      i respect your views . i also had a tough time deciding whether its ok to draw and see such art or not .

                                      my view is that both 'types' of art are intentional , both contain nudity . and to me , nudity is very bad . its like movie artists would say about acting nude "its only art" .

                                      btw , what kinda art do you and shamsularfeen like ? i like comic book art .

                                      salam.

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                                        SaLaM Saladin

                                        I like Archies and i was in love with betty ops

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                                          shamsul-arefin
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                                          In my opinion...nudity is not bad....Its the person who takes it as a stimulus for his/her lust is bad. Nature is God's art..and what do you see in it ? Its a combination of all...nudity(nature) and we humans(some nude and some covered). Rather than linking nudity with sex, try to see it as a part of life and something very normal which we all are in natural form.

                                          I think the problem is not with nudity but the person who interprets it. Do you think most ppl gets aroused in the art gallery seeing a nude art ? I dont think so. Only a pervert mind would do so and no matter what a pervert mind will always find a reason to stimulate him/herself.

                                          So which is best for us ? To open our mind or get more conservative ?

                                          peace

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