sex before marriage
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Salam Jaxal,
What does the Quran says about the Bighaa'a here
**Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them), **
Does Allah by any chance blame those daughters for working as prostitutes? In this Ayah, Allah is asking the fathers not to take advantage from their daughters when their daughters choose to stay away from such contacts.
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Salaam sis Taj,
Wow ,you surprise me sister with your understanding!
I can't see anything of prostitution in that verse.
If you read some verses before this verse you can see that Allah Guide both the believing men and females to lower their gaze and keep their private parts covered.
I mean if prostitution was allowed why then cover your private parts!?
Peace
Sis Majidah -
SaLaM Taj
Prostituion out of compulsion. Hency why Allah will be forgiving. If prostituion is not out of complusion then would Allah be this forgiving? Maybe so. But that dont mean Allah allows prostitution. Allah also forgives denying the faith out of complusion or eating pig out of compsulsion. Doesnt mean that we are allowed to denounce our faith for person gain or eat pork.
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Salaam all,
sister taj, if i follow your logic, a "muslim" father would be allowed to make a prostitute of his agreeing daughter, in which case she would be to blame. On the other hand, the father would be to blame but not the daughter if he forced her.... roll
Sorry, but i don't see no prostitution allowed. It's just the thing about compulsion - in islam we can bend in order not to break.
Elke
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Salam Majidah,
Why would any woman work as a prostitute?
The answer is It is a job for the desperate!
And who would force a woman to work as such?
Sometimes her father, and if she has no family and no education and she needs to survive, she would have to work as such.
So in some desperate situations, her body would be the only thing that she can sell in order to survive the day. Does Allah blame her? I don?t see in the whole Quran where Allah blames the desperate. So who are we to point a finger at those women/girls?
in the Ayah Allah ask the fathers not to force their daughters to work as such. Allah does not blame those girls for what they were forced to do.On the other hand, there seems to be some men in this world who are so desperate in getting that need satisfied. As a woman, I cannot understand it, and I don?t think that any woman can.
In the Middle East, there is no prostitution. I mean that this job is not official! So what happens is, those men get married at a very young age and so they treat their wives as prostitutes, without even knowing it. The belief here in the Arab and "Muslim" world is wives are created to satisfy their husbands only, and not just that, also, that if the woman does not do that job perfectly, then she will be cursed. Do you understand the humiliation when a husband thinks that his wife is only there to satisfy him? And that he feeds her and shelters her in return to his satisfaction? And that she would be very lucky if she managed to carry his babies and alone she would take full care of them, otherwise she will soon be out of the door?
My point is
Marriage in not just for sex. If men are so desperate for sex then they should seek it from the desperate. Men should get married only when they are ready for the responsibility of a family. -
SaLaM Taj
Why would any woman work as a prostitute?
The answer is It is a job for the desperate!Sorry Taj but that is not true. If a disabled man can work decently, so can a woman. That is why i dont give money to beggers. They have 2 hands and feet . Use them.
As for what you say about men and marriage is true. In arab world, in pakistan, in india. In every single country. God allows the woman to get out of that kind of marrage. Thats the whole point of divorce.
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Salaam sister taj,
reading your new post i better understand your point, but i don't think this means that prostitution is allowed. Quran is just taking into account something that always existed and takes the blame away from those who are forced.
No, prostitution is not only for the desperate - true most are, poverty, drugs, illegal immigrants being forced aso - but some people just see it as the easiest way to make their living... And don't forget, we also have masculin prostitution. Even though they might not often see themselves as such....
LK
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No, prostitution is not only for the desperate - true most are, poverty, drugs, illegal immigrants being forced aso - but some people just see it as the easiest way to make their living... And don't forget, we also have masculin prostitution. Even though they might not often see themselves as such....
LKYes women like sex too!!!
There are 10,000 different nerve endings on the tip of the female pudenda! more than on the male glans!!!Regards,
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Salaam,
Would u mind showing me where God says that women should give something to the man in the Quran?
I will use this as an opportunity to show you how you can be very lost in discussions. I did not say that the quran says women are to give anything to the man in marriage.
I was telling Tony that dowry is what a woman's family gives to her husband. The quran does not mention dowry, but it mentions mehr, which is nuptual gifts. That is, what a man should give to his wife to be.
Joe