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Al-Dhikr and the detailing of al-kitaab

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    unknownuser
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    You can see this first hand with our sura 81 post.

    I've noticed that sura 82 also appears to be taken from Revelations, so hope you continue into that sura on your 81 thread

    Also when I replied to mrq about sura 9111 coming from Corinthians 619-20, I did a quick check and found that many other verses in sura 9 have there original source in Corinthians.. So maybe you can have a look at sura 9 vs Corinthians when you're finished revealing the true source of Sura 81

    here's a few others Sura 9 vs Corinthians

    Do they not realize that GOD knows their secrets, and their conspiracies, and that GOD is the Knower of all secrets?

    From 1 Co 1425

    1Co 1425 the secrets of his heart are made manifest; and so he will fall down on his face and worship God, declaring that God is among you indeed.


    O you who believe, the idol worshipers are polluted

    From 1 Co 87

    1Co 87 Howbeit there is not in all men that knowledge but some, being used until now to the idol, eat as of a thing sacrificed to an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled


    They want to put out GOD's light with their mouths, but GOD insists upon perfecting His light, in spite of the disbelievers.

    Again from Corinthians

    1Co 45 Wherefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness


    The day will come when their gold and silver will be heated in the fire of Hell, then used to burn their foreheads, their sides, and their backs "This is what you hoarded for yourselves, so taste what you have hoarded."

    Again from Corithians 312-13

    1Co 312 But if any man buildeth on the foundation gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, stubble;
    1Co 313 each man's work shall be made manifest for the day shall declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire itself shall prove each man's work of what sort it is.


    Some of them even pledged "If GOD showered us with His grace, we would be charitable, and would lead a righteous life."

    From Corinthians 1510

    1Co 1510 But by the grace of God I am what I am and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not found vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

    It seems that just about every Sura can be traced to a whole Book in the Bible. So for every Book in the Bible Muhammad devoted one (sometimes 2) chapters.

    As you've pointed out Sura 81-82 came from the Book of Revelations, and it looks like Sura 9 came from Corinthians..

    Interesting how Muhammad gained his Material to put together his Book after twisting most of it !!!

    ......

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      unknownuser
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      Peace,

      Apple pieFurthermore, if you actually did study the classic Arabic, then you would have converted to Christianity long ago...

      Who ever want to revert to christianity shock

      The ones who have taken the time to actually study their book of faith....apparently not you...

      The Al-Quran came as an final message to mankind and why are you jews and christians so worried about that.

      The Koran is no more than an Arabic "collection" of the previous Jewish and Christian scriptures.

      No worries...

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        SwedenMajidah
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        Interesting how Muhammad gained his Material to put together his Book after twisting most of it !!!

        LOL you are really insane!!!!!!!!!!!

        If you were smart enough you should see that God didn't sent only one scripture.

        Lol your bible is so oldfashioned so you'll have to dust it off everytime you will read it even if it is many times a day you will read in it lol

        Sis Majidah

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          unknownuser
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          You can see this first hand with our sura 81 post.

          I've noticed that sura 82 also appears to be taken from Revelations, so hope you continue into that sura on your 81 thread

          Indeed it does, Albion...good observation...

          I will start a new thread entitled 82...

          Also when I replied to mrq about sura 9111 coming from Corinthians 619-20, I did a quick check and found that many other verses in sura 9 have there original source in Corinthians.. So maybe you can have a look at sura 9 vs Corinthians when you're finished revealing the true source of Sura 81

          Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

          I had not made this connection...

          here's a few others Sura 9 vs Corinthians

          Do they not realize that GOD knows their secrets, and their conspiracies, and that GOD is the Knower of all secrets?

          From 1 Co 1425

          1Co 1425 the secrets of his heart are made manifest; and so he will fall down on his face and worship God, declaring that God is among you indeed.


          O you who believe, the idol worshipers are polluted

          From 1 Co 87

          1Co 87 Howbeit there is not in all men that knowledge but some, being used until now to the idol, eat as of a thing sacrificed to an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled


          They want to put out GOD's light with their mouths, but GOD insists upon perfecting His light, in spite of the disbelievers.

          Again from Corinthians

          1Co 45 Wherefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness


          The day will come when their gold and silver will be heated in the fire of Hell, then used to burn their foreheads, their sides, and their backs "This is what you hoarded for yourselves, so taste what you have hoarded."

          Again from Corithians 312-13

          1Co 312 But if any man buildeth on the foundation gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, stubble;
          1Co 313 each man's work shall be made manifest for the day shall declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire itself shall prove each man's work of what sort it is.


          Some of them even pledged "If GOD showered us with His grace, we would be charitable, and would lead a righteous life."

          From Corinthians 1510

          1Co 1510 But by the grace of God I am what I am and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not found vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

          Great work!

          I will check into your findings with the original languages and see just how far this rabbit hole goes...

          It seems that just about every Sura can be traced to a whole Book in the Bible. So for every Book in the Bible Muhammad devoted one (sometimes 2) chapters.

          Very astute observation...

          As you've pointed out Sura 81-82 came from the Book of Revelations, and it looks like Sura 9 came from Corinthians..

          Exactly...

          Interesting how Muhammad gained his Material to put together his Book after twisting most of it !!!

          Our job is to "untwist" it for Islam...

          Take care...

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            mquran
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            Here's something very amusing

            ApplePieThe Koran is no more than an Arabic "collection" of the previous Jewish and Christian scriptures.

            Is this why you cannot tell us why the CENTRAL concept in al-quraan is irreproducible by your racist, pornographic text D ?

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              unknownuser
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              Here's something very amusing

              ApplePieThe Koran is no more than an Arabic "collection" of the previous Jewish and Christian scriptures.

              Is this why you cannot tell us why the CENTRAL concept in al-quraan is irreproducible by your racist, pornographic text D ?

              Describe this "central concept"....

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                Salaam,

                Are you saying you do not KNOW Apple Pie? If you do know then there is no need for MQ to explain, but rather for you to go on and answer his question.

                If you do not know, then you know what we now know. wink

                Joe

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                  mquran
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                  Yeah, its really funny, isnt it Joe? This guy asserts that 99% is from the Bible, yet he doesn't know the central concept in al-quraan. Laughable, seriously laughable.

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                    TheNabi
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                    lol Tell me about it. We'll see if he knows. If he does not then he has exposed himself.

                    Joe

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                      unknownuser
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                      Yeah, its really funny, isnt it Joe? This guy asserts that 99% is from the Bible, yet he doesn't know the central concept in al-quraan. Laughable, seriously laughable.

                      Hence, you cannot define your understanding of "central concept"...as you seem to be unsure of what it is...

                      If you need help...just ask... wink

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                        TheNabi
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                        Salaam,

                        No, I'm simply asking you. You need not speculate as to whether I know of it or not. If you know what this concept is you do not need to be asking about it. Rather you should be anwering MQ's question. However, if YOU do not know, then I now know what you do not know. )

                        Joe

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                          unknownuser
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                          Salaam,

                          No, I'm simply asking you. You need not speculate as to whether I know of it or not. If you know what this concept is you do not need to be asking about it. Rather you should be anwering MQ's question. However, if YOU do not know, then I now know what you do not know. )

                          Joe

                          Thanks for your concern Joe...

                          However, the questions are not directed to you in the first place... wink

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                            TheNabi
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                            Salaam,

                            My concerns were still the same as MQ's. So your statement does apply to me. Now if you care to oblidge then do so. If not then I understand why.

                            Joe

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                              unknownuser
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                              Salaam,

                              My concerns were still the same as MQ's. So your statement does apply to me. Now if you care to oblidge then do so. If not then I understand why.

                              Joe

                              Ok...then what do you feel is the "central concept" of your book of faith....?

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                                TheNabi
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                                Salaam,

                                I think you need to go back to post number 27. )

                                Joe

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  Salaam,

                                  I think you need to go back to post number 27. )

                                  Joe

                                  In other words.....you have no comment.....

                                  What a surprise. shock

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                                    TheNabi
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                                    Salaam,

                                    No my comment was given you before. It's just that you keep repeating yourself when you were already answered. So an effect is that I will keep repeating myself until you answer. It's not a suprise to me the way you are going about this thread.

                                    Joe

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      Salaam,

                                      No my comment was given you before. It's just that you keep repeating yourself when you were already answered. So an effect is that I will keep repeating myself until you answer. It's not a suprise to me the way you are going about this thread.

                                      Joe

                                      Please tell us how it is that so much Biblical material ended up in your book of faith...?

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                                        TheNabi
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                                        Salaam,

                                        Is that your answer? If not then I'm still waiting. If it is your answer than I am confused, please elaborate.

                                        Joe

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          Peace all,

                                          Since the Koran is 99% Biblical material, does this come as a surprise to you...?

                                          There is no mystery here...

                                          Interesting how Muhammad gained his Material to put together his Book after twisting most of it!!!

                                          Our job is to "untwist" it for Islam..

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                                          The authors of the Koran are clear?.they can only copy the previous Jewish and Christian scriptures.

                                          Fact is, the Koran fails in its attempt to copy the Holy Bible,

                                          Official conditions of magnified delusion. Quite frightening.

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