The word Islam
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Hello
What I have learnt about the word Islam is close to mquran comment, however there is more into it than just accpeting all the Quran
the arabic word "to sa lem" doen't always mean to greet with peace rather you accept something with full submission even if was a bad thing
for example if I get hit by cancer, then as a Muslim I have to "Osalem" that it is from Allah, and I should not cry and rebel against it and keep asking why Allah chose me out of all these people and hit me with cancer?
same with a dear person who dies, or a failure to achieve something that was highly desired
on the other hand we should also "Nosalem" that the Quran is from Allah and all these heaven and earth and us are created by Allah
any success in life we should "Nosalem" that it is from Allah
it is a bit different to be a believer actually, it is much higher level than just to believe, it means "TO SUBMIT TO ALLAH"
the Quran actually diffrentiated between "Mo'men" and "Muslim"
"The wandering Arabs say We believe. Say (unto them, O Muhammad) Ye believe not, but rather say "We submit," for the faith hath not yet entered into your hearts. Yet, if ye obey Allah and His messenger, He will not withhold from you aught of (the reward of) your deeds. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. "
(14)
Peace
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Salaam all,
Thanks guys for all your input D
So islam has many meanings!? well i wish it only had one meaning ?
Peace Sis Maria
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Salaam Majidah,
It does have only one meaning. The thing is, we're thinking about it in our own respective languages. If you just thought al-islaam and pictured 'attainment of salaam', thats just one meaning, but a very WIDE meaning. Unfortunately, toluislam.com is down at the moment. When it comes back on, i'll paste the meaning here for you.
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Salaam MQ,
Ty always so helpful D
Peace Maria
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You're most welcome, Majidah.
I just thought of the relationship between 'islam' and 'salaam' is comparable to the relationship 'communism' and 'equality for all mankind' (the purported fruits of communism). So communism is to attain this goal of equality.
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Salaam MQ handshake
Well the baby of communism is good but not the communism today.
Peace sis Maria
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So 'islam' is like the process of getting salaam ?
Yes.
And that process you call compliance?
I dont call it that, I dont have a formal name for it, but "compliance" as a descriptive word is ok.
The only problem when using a word like "compliance" or "submission" is to people who dont know what you are referencing, its like a negative thing, like you're forced to submit, as if its against your will. You have no say in the matter, you just follow what you are told.
Whilst in reality, what I mean by "compliance" is to the true-self, the internal compass, nature, universal laws that so many people comply to, yet dont regard themselves as 'muslimeena' (those who comply). Perhaps acknowledgement of the source of this nature is the sticking point for some.Wakas
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Peace be upon you,
I see it this way
(3102) You, you those who trust, revere The God as He deserves to be revered, and do not die (E) except and you are "muslimoona".
I do not think the God is saying not to die unless we are "attaining" peace, but instead at peace.
I have it as
Islam= Peacefulness
Muslm= One who is peaceful
Salaam= Peace -
Peace to all
I posted the arabic verse that Allah CLEARLY told us that Islam is to submitt to Him He even told the arabs who claim to be believers that it is better to say they are Muslims "Submitters" , this is a common arabic sentence, "Tosalem Be Amr Allah"
also it has nothing to to do with Dr Rashad Khalifa cult "submission" He was just smart enough to use the exact meaning Allah want us to know about Islam, I totally disagree with his so called mathematical miracle and I reckon it is a joke, the verse he is using "Alayah Tess'at Asher" is actually describing him more than describing any math miracle in the Quran, I still respect his other good work though
peace was mentioned in the Quran using the word "Selm"
"Wa Iza Ganaho Lel Selm" which clearly means the peace process
sure the submissionto Allah will lead to a peaceful state of mind and consequently most actions and deeds will be peaceful, but the word islam is "To To Salem Be Amr Allah", "To submit to whatever Allah says in His Quran or does to you in this testing life "
I will try to bring all the verses that support the meaning of submitting, it is clear as light, there should not be any confusion
Peace to all
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Hello again
Don't forget that in sura no 2, Allah is encouraging us to fight the pepetrators big times
very tough and violent words were used indeed
Allah also exposed the hypocrites who wanted to dodge the duty of fighting
now to be a muslim you must fight and even kill who attack our religion and want to kill us
the above is an important part to be a muslim, and surley has nothing to do with peace, rather submitting to Allah laws in His Quran
peace to all
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Peace be uppon you Ahmed,
You have posted your idea of "islam". We can substitute "peacefulness" in every instance.
Fighting for self defense is maintaining the peace. Just like the body fights off diseases.
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Ahmed Bahgat wrote
for example if I get hit by cancer, then as a Muslim I have to "Osalem" that it is from Allah, and I should not cry and rebel against it and keep asking why Allah chose me out of all these people and hit me with cancer?
So , you believe that if someone has cancer; then it's from God?
You believe that God dictates when and how everyone on this Earth will die? -
Peace be uppon you Ahmed,
You have posted your idea of "islam". We can substitute "peacefulness" in every instance.
Fighting for self defense is maintaining the peace. Just like the body fights off diseases.
Peace idolfree
sorry bro this is not my idea, this is a vey well know fact about Islam, and I knw the arabic words very well, it is more to submitt than be a peaceful human, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, i will show a few verses later to support this common knwledge in the arab world
peace
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Ahmed Bahgat wrote
for example if I get hit by cancer, then as a Muslim I have to "Osalem" that it is from Allah, and I should not cry and rebel against it and keep asking why Allah chose me out of all these people and hit me with cancer?
So , you believe that if someone has cancer; then it's from God?
You believe that God dictates when and how everyone on this Earth will die?Absoutely
but Allah does not do it randomly, He does anything for a cause he only knows, let me post this verse from the Quran
"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
(216)
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Peace Ahmed,
You wrotenow to be a muslim you must fight and even kill who attack our religion and want to kill us
the above is an important part to be a muslim, and surley has nothing to do with peace, rather submitting to Allah laws in His Quran
Brother I totally disagree with you. If someone wants to kill us then we have the right to defend ourselves, but the idea to kill someone who attack our religion is?. Strange? And what when we attack other religions? Should they practice the same law? what about sectarians groups?
608-Allah forbids you not with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes from dealing kindly and justly with them for Allah loveth those who are just.
609-Allah only forbids you with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith and drive you out of your homes and support (others) in driving you out from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances) that do wrong.Bye.
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Peace Agentxxx
please read my comment again
i said "who attack our religion AND WANT TO KILL US"
and I can backup what I said from the Quran
thank you
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peace ahmed,
you wroteplease read my comment again
i said "who attack our religion AND WANT TO KILL US"
and I can backup what I said from the Quranoops ? sorry i am confused, please explain what you mean by "who attack our religions and want to kill us"? do you mean indiviuals, groups or nations?
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peace ahmed,
you wroteplease read my comment again
i said "who attack our religion AND WANT TO KILL US"
and I can backup what I said from the Quranoops ? sorry i am confused, please explain what you mean by "who attack our religions and want to kill us"? do you mean indiviuals, groups or nations?
take care.it mostely happen by groups or nations but the individuals should also be included and the target is Islam, it is clear in the Quran, but I would say, i will elaborate later bro, I'm just at work currently
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