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Arranged Marriages are an INJUSTICE?

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    unknownuser
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    Well it's time to change the old cultures, why wearing hijabs!?

    Why live like on the time of the prophet?

    We must look forward and the same time keep the good moral.

    Wearing hijab is just like wearing any other modest attire. Nothing 'islamic'
    about it. So, women who like to wear it ,can and women who dont like it, need not.

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      NoProgressive
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      As SAlaam Alaikum,

      Becoz in the society where she comes from, thats the only norm, especially among the poor.

      And I fail to understand how she was forced to marry the guy?! Where is the evidence for this? Wear is the evidence that this was arranged?! For all you know they could of been together for months before they were even engaged.

      These are different issues. Men abuse women all around the world. But in these cases, Women are almost handed over to men they know nothing about.

      And often when people marry someone they discover they knew nothing about them. Along with boyfriends, they discover they knew nothing about them but yet they are dating them.. and often in just the few dates there are signs of abuse already

      And anyways, I am southasian too. So, I do know what I am talking about.

      I never said that you don't know what you are talking about. But reality is domestic abuse is not just in arrange marriages. it is many marriages. Are you goign to quote anotehr domest abuse case that was a "love marraige" as "another ending to a love marriage"?

      Many arrange marraiges are not bad. Many girls are not forced to marry either.

      salam

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        NoProgressive
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        As Salaam ALiakum Sweden,

        Peace,

        Well it's time to change the old cultures, why wearing hijabs!?

        Why live like on the time of the prophet?

        We must look forward and the same time keep the good moral.

        Peace Sis Majidah

        Why ar you trying to tell women how to dress? What is "old" is telling women how to dress and making them dress the way you deem acceptable. What is "foward" is allowing them to dress how they please.

        salaam

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          Tahira
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          Salam NoProgressive

          Very true. I was forced to get married when i was 16 but my hubby turned out to be sooooooo perfect.

          Regarding your comment on hijab. I thought we (women)had a choice in this matter.
          I don't understand what you meant by "What is forward is allowing them to dress how they please".
          Please correct me if i'm wrong but are saying we women have to be told how to dress.

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            NoProgressive
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            As Salaam Aliakum Tahira,

            Salam NoProgressive

            Very true. I was forced to get married when i was 16 but my hubby turned out to be sooooooo perfect.

            Sorry to read that happened to you, but that's great htat your husband turned out to be a just man.

            I don't understand what you meant by "What is forward is allowing them to dress how they please".
            Please correct me if i'm wrong but are saying we women have to be told how to dress.

            Lol. No gurl! I'm saying the exact opposite.

            the "them" in that sentence is referring to women.

            "how they please" is a phrase that is about people choosing whatever they like.

            salaam

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              Tahira
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              Wa Aliakum As salam NoProgressive

              Thanks for correcting me luv.

              Do you know i had a think about what you said, and do you know you are right , Why are all bad marriages automatically thought of as arranged marriages.
              Why does the word arranged always get connected to the word forced?
              We should say these words the other way around like "forced arranged marriage" then we would know if we were talking about a good arranged marriage or a bad one.
              So could we let this be lesson no 1 for today, from now on if we can separate the two, its either an arranged marriage or a forced arranged marriage.

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                stillearning
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                salaam all

                You guys are so lucky you're not living in pakiford. OOPS i meant bradford. It is like the Big Apple for immigration up here.

                Perfect comments for any racist website.

                Any hard evidence to back up what seems to be the overwhelming view on this forum that those from the Indian subcontinent are predominantly living in loveless and miserable marriages!
                regards

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                  Tahira
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                  Salam StillLearning

                  Do you think muslims everywhere are living perfect happy lives. Racists don't need our website to be racist thats who they already are.

                  Have you lived in Bradford 3? Do you know what people are like there?
                  I lived there 11 years and the people living there made my life a living hell. These people weren't Racists they were muslims. The majority of Bradford 3 are muslims. The area i was living in had about 7 streets. All muslims except for 3 households. They all new each other(they were from the same parts of Afghanistan) and some were related.
                  They started picking on us because i don't wear hijab.They harassed us on a daily basis (please let me know if you want details of what they did to us, You know HARD EVIDENCE). We had to move out of our home in August this year because they threatened to set our house on fire.

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                    NoProgressive
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                    As Salaam Alaikum Tahira,

                    Wa Aliakum As salam NoProgressive

                    Thanks for correcting me luv.

                    Do you know i had a think about what you said, and do you know you are right , Why are all bad marriages automatically thought of as arranged marriages.

                    Because of stereotypes. Poeple in different societies, often look at other societies as savages and uncivilized people. Though abuse is prevelant in thier own neighborhoods and cities, they make comments as if domestic abuse never happens where they are from.

                    We should say these words the other way around like "forced arranged marriage" then we would know if we were talking about a good arranged marriage or a bad one.
                    So could we let this be lesson no 1 for today, from now on if we can separate the two, its either an arranged marriage or a forced arranged marriage.

                    I agree totally. Becuase like I said, you have to understand the culture. And while there are many people inside of that culture that dread the day when thier parents start talking about a potential spouse, many poeple do look foward to it and welcome it.

                    Like I said about my friend, he's Indian. Born and Bred in America... but whenever he is asked about maybe having an arrange marriage he never ever rules it out. (by the way he is not Muslim, therefore does not have some type of "traditionalist" thinking lol).

                    salaam

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                      Tahira
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                      salam NoProgressive

                      I would also like to add that arranged marriages and forced arranged marriages also happen in other cultures and religions too.So its not just a muslim thing. The difference is that they don't have the Quran to tell them that forced arranged marriage is wrong and we do yet we continue this practice.

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                        Jaxal
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                        SaLaM

                        I think its becoz a cultural thing. Especially for 'muslims' in 'muslim' countries. I think it has to do more with culture than religion.

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                          unknownuser
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                          SaLaM

                          I think its becoz a cultural thing. Especially for 'muslims' in 'muslim' countries. I think it has to do more with culture than religion.

                          Whats religious about it? its purely cultural.

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                            Jaxal
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                            SaLaM PM

                            are you asking me or telling me?

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                              unknownuser
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                              SaLaM PM

                              are you asking me or telling me?

                              ) Jaxal, I just opined on it.
                              the practice is not to do with religion. its more of tradition and culture. so, muslims and non muslims alike practice it, in countries.

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                                Jaxal
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                                SaLam PM

                                loooolll and i agree with you! D

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                                  Tahira
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                                  So everyone here agrees that it is a cultural thing. How do we explain this to our parents(Not that i need to now).

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                                    Jaxal
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                                    SaLaM Tahira

                                    Since when do parents listen to their children? D

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