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How is the Soul connected to our Biological body?

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    bmbmm
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    I some time think that the part of the body, could be the brain, act as a reciever or a reception of the soul. The soul which act as a signal, and this signal to body connection is disconnected while we sleep, and completely disconnected when we pass away. But how and where is it connected demands more research?

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      Dear All,

      I am thinking of writing a book on the topic, and I have though about a few titles bellow. Please comment and/or suggest any you think are appropriate.

      1. A Cellular & Spiritual Junction
      2. The Biological Soul
      3. A Biological-Spitural Junction
      4. The Biological-Spiritual Connection

      Any other titles? Please comment, and thanks for your attention.

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        I like "the Biological Soul" Or perhaps The physical connection a spiritual Journey

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          Thanks Sawtooth,

          I will use The Biological Soul, and will keep you inform...

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            Children, apart from their look, have some character resembling their parents. Is it because their genetic make-up have a cetrain control on their souls?

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              Is a soul really necessary? If so why is it that our BODIES are ressurected at the Judgement?

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                Hi,

                There is a soul apart from the body as we know. I think for the soul to have experiance, such as we are having here on earth, it is designed to develop an affinity with the body by Allah, which we are not in control of or know much about. So upon ressurection Allah might give us another form of affinity. I do not know whether its gonna be a biological one or not, but I am really interested to know how at the present it is connected to the biological component.

                Peace

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                  Tay
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                  Peace Sword_of_Allah,

                  Is a soul really necessary? If so why is it that our BODIES are ressurected at the Judgement?

                  Please post the ayah the supports your position. In the meantime, ponder this

                  2424-25
                  On the Day when their tongues, and their hands, and their feet will bear witness against them for what they used to do. On that Day, God will pay them what they are owed in full, and they will know that God is the Truth Manifested.

                  How, exactly, would a tongue, hands, and feet testify against a person if the person does not have a soul seperate from the tongue, hands, and feet?

                  Also, can a tongue, hands, and feet "testify" by way of vocal communication?

                  I believe 2424-25 tells us that all we do is imprinted on the whole. Our bodies are a walking testimony of the life we lead.

                  Peace,
                  Tay

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                    What about when the angels take the soul of the sinners, and they punish them? Is that not in the Quran?

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                      Peace bm,

                      Kindly indicate who it is that you are addressing. It gets a little confusing otherwise.

                      Peace,
                      Tay

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                        To you Tay.

                        I always think that there is a soul, as according to the quran. But if you say there isn't I will believe you if you show me some evidence. To be honest Arabic is not my language so please make it simple.

                        Peace

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                          Tay
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                          Peace bm,

                          You stated

                          I always think that there is a soul, as according to the quran. But if you say there isn't I will believe you if you show me some evidence.

                          Perhaps I haven't explained myself clearly. My apologies. In my opinion, there is certainly a soul - no question about it.

                          Peace,
                          Tay

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                            The Quran say someting about the Juglar vein. What does it mean? Can someone comment?

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                              Hi bmbmm,

                              The Quran say someting about the Juglar vein. What does it mean? Can someone comment?

                              5016 NOW, VERILY, it is We who have created man, and We know what his innermost self whispers within him for We are closer to him than his neck-vein.

                              Peace!

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                                The royal we means I/we and Allah so it does not solve the problem of who is this other one/are these others speaking with/for Allah. The "WE" are the sifatullah. And since Ruhullah mn Allah is one of the Sifatullah and it has been breathed into each and every created system, and without which we will die, then by it, the sifatullah become closer to us than our jugular veins which although unheard of at the time of revelation if cut, does not necessarily mean death thanks to emmergency service rapid reaction inshallah. But take away the Ruhullah mn Allah and even the most healthy individual in perfect physical condition will instantly die.

                                As for the soul. If you mean Ruh then it is explained already. If you mean Nafs then our bodies (along with Ruhullah mn allah) and perhaps many other things discussed by philosophers and psychologists make up part of each person's Nafs (identity).

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                                  Tay
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                                  Peace bm,

                                  You asked

                                  The Quran say someting about the Juglar vein. What does it mean? Can someone comment?

                                  In my opinion, there are several levels of understanding which this ayah(5016) denotes. Most prominent, in my eyes, is the following.

                                  First, "And we created the human".
                                  The understanding is obvious

                                  "We know what his self whispers to him"
                                  This, I believe, is talking about inner dialogue between the self/ego, and the soul.

                                  "We are closer to him than his jugular vein."
                                  Here, a spiritual concept has been laid out in physical terms. Whether "habli alwareedi" refers to the jugular vein or the vena cava is arguable, but irrelevant. What is relevant is that this reference indicates a physical mechanism deep within the body.

                                  Now, we must ask, what can be "closer" than a physical mechanism within the body?

                                  My understanding is that this is a clear reference to the unity of our essence. We are connected to the divine at a level beyond what we can see, touch, feel, hear, or smell. The connection is deeper, even, than our internal organs. It is our soul that is in direct connection to the divine.

                                  Any physical attribute that we can ponder exists only at the periphery level. These are all extensions from within, or, rather, the vehicle that the soul inhabits. They are "outside" of the soul, and this includes the mind/brain.

                                  Peace,
                                  Tay

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                                    bmbmm
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                                    Wow thanks Sufi and Tay, this stuff is very informative!

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                                      peace all. I currently think that all matter has awareness,and as such all matter is a soul. Scientists used to think that all matter was composed of one indivisible common element(atoms) but then they discovered electrons etc.. I currently think that the soul is the lowest common denominator of being and cannot be destroyed but can move to different dimensions.Whether the soul can change form i do not yet know. One reason why we may not be able to detect the soul visibly is that it may be too small to see at present,but in the future we may be able to see it. Some philosophies state that everything is light(or energy)and so the photon or particle of light may be the smallest particle of light and this could be the soul.If everthing is light this also means god is light which some philosophies also state,as well as the quran.(2435). I have to think more on these topics to come to a more solid understanding,but it is a very interesting topic.
                                      Peace all.

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