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SLAUGHTERING ANIMALS ON 'ID-AL-ADHA ?

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    sawtooth
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    Ok cool he can subdue an animal, but to sacrafice it? that's sick and twisted and a complete waste of a beautigul creation. I don't buy it. If the word was that he subdued it so that we make make feast of it for the old or sick? then maybe

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      jonny_k
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      Salam "sawtooth",

      Ok cool he can subdue an animal, but to sacrafice it? that's sick and twisted and a complete waste of a beautigul creation. I don't buy it. If the word was that he subdued it so that we make make feast of it for the old or sick? then maybe

      JK- Sacrifice is the same to feed te poor at least in the Quranic context. Dont confuse this with the Biblical one. GOD Bless!

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        So the sacrifice here is for those that can afford it to slaughter an animal and then gift it to the poor?

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          agentxxx
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          peace jonny-k,

          thank you for your input,
          you wrote

          There is no Eid in the Quran and the sacrifice is LIMITED TO THE PILGRIMS. The whole world doesnt have to do it. GOD says in the Quran

          what i heard through the media is that this year 2.5 million pilgrims are performing hajj, that would means almost 5 million animals will be slaughtered in mecca only by the pilgrims , now would not it be better to donate money to the poors instead of giving them a bag of meat to eat?

          peace sawtooth,

          So the sacrifice here is for those that can afford it to slaughter an animal and then gift it to the poor?

          believe me only 10% of the meat is given to the poors , the rest of the 90% is send to friends, family members and influencial people or stored for barbecue parties after the eid.

          peace.

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            Salam "agentxxx",

            thank you for your input,
            you wrote

            what i heard through the media is that this year 2.5 million pilgrims are performing hajj, that would means almost 5 million animals will be slaughtered in mecca only by the pilgrims , now would not it be better to donate money to the poors instead of giving them a bag of meat to eat?

            JK- Donating money to the poor is probably the worst solution. Poor people dont know how to handle money correcty and may waste it. Also in Pakistan the poor people are sent out by mafia bosses who collect all the money from them so NO this is not idea at all. The best way is to give them what they primarily require which is food and shelter. As for the 2.5 million pilgrims, nowhere does GOD fix the date of hajj to a 3 particular days in a year BUT gives us the four known months to perform it in them.
            Hajj shall be observed in the specified months(plural)*. Whoever sets out to observe Hajj shall refrain from sexual intercourse, misconduct, and arguments throughout Hajj. Whatever good you do, GOD is fully aware thereof. As you prepare your provisions for the journey, the best provision is righteousness. You shall observe Me, O you who possess intelligence.
            *2197 Hajj can be observed any time during the Sacred Months Zul-Hijjah, Muharram, Safar, and Rabi I. Local governments restrict Hajj to a few days for their own convenience. See 937
            GOD Bless!

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              peace jonny-k,
              you wrote

              JK- Donating money to the poor is probably the worst solution. Poor people dont know how to handle money correcty and may waste it. Also in Pakistan the poor people are sent out by mafia bosses who collect all the money from them so NO this is not idea at all.

              Brother I am not suggesting that the money should be given to the professional beggars, that indeed is not a good idea. I give the money to a former watchman, who had worked with us for almost 30 years, an honest, pious, sincere and hard working guy who cant beg, cant work now and has no other financial support. People like him are around all of us, it gives me a million times more satisfaction/peace to spend money like this rather then spending it to slaughter an animal. I have been requesting/debating my friends to spend this money on those around them, but they have their own logic.

              An average animal for slaughtering/scarifying cost around 12000 rupees; the good ones are around 25000 rupees and so on, the maximum asking price for an animal this year is 350,000 rupees for a male goat, the reason the owner said on TV today is that on one of its ear the name of Allah is written and on the other Muhammad .
              100s of millions will be spend on slaughtering of animals in pakistan alone, i wish they are spend to improve the living conditions of fellow citizens

              jk wrote

              The best way is to give them what they primarily require which is food and shelter.

              100% agreed

              jk wrote

              nowhere does GOD fix the date of hajj to a 3 particular days in a year BUT gives us the four known months to perform it in them.
              Hajj shall be observed in the specified months(plural)*. Whoever sets out to observe Hajj shall refrain from sexual intercourse, misconduct, and arguments throughout Hajj. Whatever good you do, GOD is fully aware thereof. As you prepare your provisions for the journey, the best provision is righteousness. You shall observe Me, O you who possess intelligence.
              *2197 Hajj can be observed any time during the Sacred Months Zul-Hijjah, Muharram, Safar, and Rabi I. Local governments restrict Hajj to a few days for their own convenience. See 937

              Thank you brother for this imformation.

              peace.

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                jonny_k
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                Salam "agentxxx",

                jk wrote

                The best way is to give them what they primarily require which is food and shelter.

                100% agreed

                JK- This was the main point.

                Thank you brother for this imformation.

                peace.

                JK- Your welcome, bro. GOD Bless!

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                  Yosemite
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                  salam

                  I've read that each hair of the lamb will give you one good action point.

                  THat is what i do not buy.

                  (protip its in the hadith)

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                    anna
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                    Ok cool he can subdue an animal, but to sacrafice it? that's sick and twisted and a complete waste of a beautigul creation. I don't buy it. If the word was that he subdued it so that we make make feast of it for the old or sick? then maybe

                    sick and twisted, you born yesterday or something, or are you a vegetarian.... soooooo its ok to subdue an animal for 364 days of the year but not on that specifec day cause it called sacrificing,what you think they just slit its throat and throw it away...... ever heard of hamburgars or shish kebab, tasty arent they P

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                      anna
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                      peace jonny-k,
                      you wrote

                      Brother I am not suggesting that the money should be given to the professional beggars, that indeed is not a good idea. I give the money to a former watchman, who had worked with us for almost 30 years, an honest, pious, sincere and hard working guy who cant beg, cant work now and has no other financial support. People like him are around all of us, it gives me a million times more satisfaction/peace to spend money like this rather then spending it to slaughter an animal. I have been requesting/debating my friends to spend this money on those around them, but they have their own logic.

                      since it is not an obligation on those who are not at hajj then what you are doing is from your own, and considered sadaqa which i think its great , it should be done throughout the year not only at hajj... jazak allah khayir

                      the maximum asking price for an animal this year is 350,000 rupees for a male goat, the reason the owner said on TV today is that on one of its ear the name of Allah is written and on the other Muhammad .
                      100s of millions will be spend on slaughtering of animals in pakistan alone, i wish they are spend to improve the living conditions of fellow citizens

                      moslems.................. so corrupt

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