arabic words
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peace ahmed bahgat
i apoligise if i have offended u in any way , it makes me sad when i see believers have conflicts in such a way , i waz not pointing at u only i was pointing at mquran n truth also ,
i am not gonna tell her who is right n who is wrong , all i want to tell is tht pls be in peace
anyway i think we should forget this topic here
n get back to arabic wordsHello sister
no apology required mate, you didn't offend me, I just thought your comment is not entirely fair,
ironically when I joined, my favorite member was Mquran, but as time went by I started to realize that I didn't give myself enough time to know him, then my problem started with him when he stated that Kyle knws islam and the Quran better than anyone he met, this is shocking to say this about someone who sayd Mohammad never existed and is nothing but a metaohor, from that point onward I have changed my atitude towards brother mquran and I'm following the Quran in what I did btw, my descision was to ignore him due to his silly comments against muslims and arabs, yet he kept harssing me with further silly comments, therefore i used my abolute right to respond to him
Regarding the arabic words, please go to wekepidia web site and search for the words arabic language and you will get a few articles includeing very valuable arabic lessons
peace
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this is shocking to say this about someone who sayd Mohammad never existed and is nothing but a metaohor, from that point onward I have changed my atitude....
That a person named Mohammad never existed. Does this truly change your entire view about things? Is the God not sufficient for you? Does it matter whether anyone existed before you? Would you turn on your heels if your pre-conceived ideas were shaken?
Ahmed you remind me of those who would turn on their heels at such things, and you are not ready to be truly free of your idolatrous thoughts and ideas...
3144 Muhammad was no more than a messenger like the messengers before him. Should he die or get killed, would you turn back on your heels? Anyone who turns back on his heels, does not hurt GOD in the least. GOD rewards those who are appreciative.
See how clear the verses are. That the system of the God goes on regardless of any person. That the existence or not of any person regardless of what they were called is absolutely unimportant to the true believer in the God alone?
Peace.
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Peace All
Muhammadun as used in the ?Qur?aan? is not a proper noun. It is a derivative of the verb H-M-D (appreciate/acclaim/praise). The messenger of the reading (qur?aan), is referred to as muhammadun. It is important to understand the full meaning of the words generated by the Arabic root H-M-D. These words retain the essence of this definition. Mahmud, praise; ahmadu, most praised; muhammadun, the praised one.
In the ?Qur'aan?, the word muhammad-un is a *passive participle and functions as a common **nominative noun.
*PARTICIPLES come in two varieties past and present and they have three functions in sentences. They can be components of multipart verbs , or they can function as adjectives or nouns. Past and present participles often function as adjectives that describe nouns. Present participles can function as nouns--the subjects, objects, and complements in sentences.
**NOMINATIVE serving as or indicating the SUBJECT of a verb- the subject is who or what DOES the verb. In the Arabic language this grammatical singular case ending is ?un?.
Mu-hammad-un = nominative case noun *indefinite, the subject (the doer) of the verb.*The indefinite corresponds generally to the English noun with the indefinite article ?a? (plural ?some?) For example a man, some men. For a noun to be definite it must be preceded by the definite article ?the? or be first in a construct. For example kitabu-r-rajuli, the man?s book, kitabu rijali, a man?s book. The first word in this construct never takes the definite article. When the second word in this construct in indefinite, the whole phrase is indefinite, otherwise the phrase is definite. )
This is the grammatical breakdown of the word muhammadun
The case ending ?un? is singular and in this form mu-hammad-un is
- Derived from the verb HaMiDa {Definition Root-H-M-D Hamida-he praised, Hamdun true praise. This word not only embodies the idea of thankfulness but also has reference to the intrinsic qualities of the object of praise. Hamd is always true and used only about such acts as are volitional. It also implies admiration, magnifying and honoring of the object of praise, humility and submissiveness in the person who offers it. Hamd is a praise which is offered in appreciation of commendable action of one worthy of praise.
It also includes lauding one who has done a favor of his own volition and according to his own choice. It is not only a true praise but also an admiration. The word shukr, thanks, differs from Hamd in the sense that its application is restricted to beneficent qualities and praise. The word Madha, gratitude, differs from Hamd in the sense that it also applies to involuntary beneficence. The word hamd is much more comprehensive than shukr.
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MU- a participle prefix meaning the person or thing to which the ACTION of the verb H-M-D has been APPLIED. It is attached to a derivative of a verb.
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haMMad Derivative of H-M-D Form II (fa-?a?a-la doubling of the middle root consonant) meaning, carrying out an action TO someone or something else and can also give a verb the meaning of DOING something INTENSIVELY and or REPEATEDLY]
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Muhammad-in the genitive case ending. The genitive case is a grammatical case that indicates a relationship, primarily one of possession, between the noun in the genitive case and another noun. In English it is expressed by using the word ?of? or an apostrophe ?s?. It is used with prepositions (in, from, on, upon etc.) as in the case of ?ala, ?upon?.
In aHMaDu is the *elative form of H-M-D.
It means most appreciated/acclaimed/praised. Isa says "?his designation (ismahu) will be most appreciated- acclaimed-praised". It functions as an adjective. It is not a proper noun or name.
The word muhammadun can be found in the reading in three places quoted above. As muhammadun and as muhammadin, ?ALA RASUL God descends the truth upon the appreciated one . All have the same root, H-M-D. These are not proper nouns.
You also will not find this word, muhammadun, appearing in the reading preceded by ?YAA? which is common of vocative *particles used in calling one who is near, (like O!) and who is far in place or high degree to him who is between near and distant. A few examples from the list of its extensive use are O Musa, O Isa, O Iblis and even O jibaalu (mountains, yet inanimate objects but they are being addressed by God). There is no O Muhammad.
See Lanes Lexicon Vol. 2 pg. 640c ref. muhammadun ?a man praised much, or repeatedly, or time after time endowed with many praiseworthy qualities.?
See Lanes Lexicon Vol. 2 pg. 639c ref. ahmad He (a man,) came to a state, or result, such as was praised, or commended, or approved; properly, his affair, or case, came to such a state or result he did, or said, that for which he should be praised, or commended; or that which was praiseworthy, or commendable;?
Mahmud according to LL means ?the station in which its occupant shall be praised by all creatures (on the day of resurrection)?Vol. 2 pg 640a
These are the manners in which he is addressed
Mahmud according to LL means ?the station in which its occupant shall be praised by all creatures (on the day of resurrection)?Vol. 2 pg 640a
See Mu-Harram-un & Mu-Hammad-un
Form II verbs with the prefix (mufal) mu, participle, i.e., the action of the verb is applied the person = the ?sanctioned one? & the ?praised one?
Neither are proper nouns2146 Those whom We gave them The Book they RECOGNIZE it, as they recognize their sons, and that a group from them hide/conceal the truth and they are knowing.
Much of the second sura addresses the Bani Israel, the people of the book. These people familiar with the message spoke Hebrew. I note below how they understand the word muhammadun in their language. Religionists have accused them of deliberately translating this word so as to take the ?name? Muhammad out of the prophesies. This word is also used in about 10 other bible verses besides Songs of Solomon 516 and if left un-translated it renders the verses indecipherable. It is food for thought.
The 5th chapter of Songs of Solomon is discussing someone. In reading the English translation of Songs 516 it finishes the description by saying "He is altogether lovely". The words "altogether lovely" was translated from mahmad.
When writing in Hebrew, there is no difference between the word mahmad and muhammad. The only difference is in the vowels used when pronouncing this word. Hebrew is an ancient language, and there are no vowels. It is made up of 22 consonants. In ancient times, the reader decided on his own which vowels to add in. It was not until the 8th century that vowels were introduced, in the form of dots and lines. However, this has nothing to do with real Hebrew. The word mahmad in ancient times would most likely have been pronounced "mahamad".
According to Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary mahmad, is correctly pronounced "mahamad" (not mahmad) which is very close to muhammad.
Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary defines mahmad as "LOVELY, COVETED ONE, PRECIOUS ONE, PRAISED ONE". The correct way to say "praised one" in Arabic is muhammad, so this is the same word.
Muhammad and the word mahmad are spelled exactly the same way in Hebrew, and both have the same meaning. The only reason they are pronounced different is because of vowels (dots and lines) introduced in the eighth century. The Hebrew word for praised one is mahamad.Regarding the etymology of "Muhammad" as being the "Transferred Proper Noun," (as proposed by some), it is nothing more than a hypothesis.
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The sound and surer etymology of the word "muhammadun," on the contrary, is as follows
Root H-M-D
Active participle of the Verbal Form I HamaDa.
Passive participle of the Verbal Form I MaHm?d.
Active participle of the Verbal Form II HammaDa
Passive participle of the Verbal Form II MuHammaD un.
But the surety of etymology in Classical Arabic ends here. Any attempt to trace the Proper Noun to such trilateral VERBAL roots in the reading is bound to remain only a hypothesis.
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this is shocking to say this about someone who sayd Mohammad never existed and is nothing but a metaohor, from that point onward I have changed my atitude....
That a person named Mohammad never existed.
this is a dream will never come true, THE QURAN CLEARLY SAYS MOHAMMAD WAS REAL AS ME AND YOU ARE
who you think you can kid bro?
certainly not me
Does this truly change your entire view about things?
of coyrse it does, because it will make the god of that book called quran a liar and a deceiuver "Allah forbids"
Is the God not sufficient for you?
of course a lieing and a deceiving god is not sufficient to me, now at least I know it is for ya
Does it matter whether anyone existed before you?
of course it does, because Allah is not playing a game here, HE STRESSED TO US THAT ALL PROPHETS ARE A CONNECTED CHAIN SINCE THE FIRST ONE WHO WAS ADAM
Would you turn on your heels if your pre-conceived ideas were shaken?
My ideas never been shaken, it is solid as solb and will stay that way because it is based on the clear Arabic Quran "Not my dreams and wishes" and I'm not a non arabic speaker, I guess I'm very lucky D
Ahmed you remind me of those who would turn on their heels at such things, and you are not ready to be truly free of your idolatrous thoughts and ideas...
and you remind me withthose who has been mislead and flawed by satan
3144 Muhammad was no more than a messenger like the messengers before him. Should he die or get killed, would you turn back on your heels? Anyone who turns back on his heels, does not hurt GOD in the least. GOD rewards those who are appreciative.
See how clear the verses are.
of course the verse is clear, it says Mohammad is a real prophet as all the real prophets before him, that is why he died like them, what is your point mate?
That the system of the God goes on regardless of any person.
yeh you are right, the system of Allah you want to flaw
That the existence or not of any person regardless of what they were called is absolutely unimportant to the true believer in the God alone?
wrong bid by you Oben, the Quran clearly says we have to believe in all the prophets and messengers and never deffrentiate between them, so whatever Allah told us about them must be believed as real as it can get and that is what a true submitter should do, all te others will be living delusional dream and wishes
Peace.
Best Regards
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Hello All
All the above info regarding the name Mohammad is miselading
Mohammad is a real human name like my name exactly Ahmad, like Mahmood, Like Hamdy, Like Himdan, Like Hammoda
please sincere brothers and sisters, watch out for the discord promoted by the ignorant of the arabic language
Peace to all
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3144 Muhammad was no more than a messenger like the messengers before him. Should he die or get killed, would you turn back on your heels? Anyone who turns back on his heels, does not hurt GOD in the least. GOD rewards those who are appreciative.
See how clear the verses are.
of course the verse is clear, it says Mohammad is a real prophet as all the real prophets before him, that is why he died like them, what is your point mate?
It does not say that at all and you know it.
It states plainly that he was no more than a messenger like those before. It then challenges those who follow the message about what they would do if the messenger suddenly became ABSENT; was killed or died. Therefore the messenger is unimportant once the message is delivered.
The object is to follow the guidance, and the presence or absence of a messenger is immaterial and irrelevant.
Let's use an allegory. Let's say a new mathematical paper was found that proves the prime number theorem ten years before the official proof was given in the late 1890's and it was authored by a man named Mahoney. No reliable historical data exists on this man but his proof is brilliant. It is not only found to be correct, but it is better than the existing proof.
Does the existence of this man Mahoney matter? Is the proof somehow invalid because we have no reliable information on the man?
I trust that you understand.
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3144 Muhammad was no more than a messenger like the messengers before him. Should he die or get killed, would you turn back on your heels? Anyone who turns back on his heels, does not hurt GOD in the least. GOD rewards those who are appreciative.
See how clear the verses are.
of course the verse is clear, it says Mohammad is a real prophet as all the real prophets before him, that is why he died like them, what is your point mate?
It does not say that at all and you know it.
it does, and the Quran said similar quotes regarding other messengers and you know it well
It states plainly that he was no more than a messenger like those before.
agree and that means real for me
It then challenges those who follow the message about what they would do if the messenger suddenly became ABSENT; was killed or died. Therefore the messenger is unimportant once the message is delivered.
agreed but that does not mean it is not for real
The object is to follow the guidance, and the presence or absence of a messenger is immaterial and irrelevant.
agreed
what is your point exactly?
Let's use an allegory. Let's say a new mathematical paper was found that proves the prime number theorem ten years before the official proof was given in the late 1890's and it was authored by a man named Mahoney. No reliable historical data exists on this man but his proof is brilliant. It is not only found to be correct, but it is better than the existing proof.
and the point is?
i don't take mohammad as an idol, what the hell you are going on about?
DO YOU BELIEVE MOHAMMAD EXISTED FOR REAL OR NOT?
Does the existence of this man Mahoney matter?
of courser at a time it mattered
Is the proof somehow invalid because we have no reliable information on the man?
then answer this
if no man claimed to bring the Quran but Mohaammad, then would you agree that he existed for real?
that is a simple question and I hope you give me a simple answer
I trust that you understand.
and I trust that you understand that I ain't take any prophet as an idol
now anser this please
do you believe in code 19?
do you believe the Quran was sent to a human called Mohammad about 1400 years ago?
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and the point is?
I have many letters in my possession from decades ago. Do I know or care about the post-people who delivered those letters to me? Does their existence matter to me or not?
Does it matter whether they were Englishmen or Arabs? Does it matter that they were born with or without fathers who were alive?
DO YOU BELIEVE MOHAMMAD EXISTED FOR REAL OR NOT?
If you understood 3144 you'd understand that the answer to this question does not matter at all.
"The God rewards those who are appreciative."
Peace.
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and the point is?
I have many letters in my possession from decades ago. Do I know or care about the post-people who delivered those letters to me? Does their existence matter to me or not?
Does it matter whether they were Englishmen or Arabs? Does it matter that they were born with or without fathers who were alive?
DO YOU BELIEVE MOHAMMAD EXISTED FOR REAL OR NOT?
If you understood 3144 you'd understand that the answer to this question does not matter at all.
"The God rewards those who are appreciative."
Peace.
then if we are not required to believe in all the messengers, can you explain this verse to me
O you who believe! believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book which He has revealed to His Messenger and the Book which He revealed before; and whoever disbelieves in Allah and His angels and His messengers and the last day, he indeed strays off into a remote error.
(136)
I guess my question is how we can believe in the 4 entities believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book which He has revealed to His Messenger and the Book which He revealed before;?
I guess does Allah mean by the believe in the above 4 entities to appreciate them all? and take them as real entities?
thanks