The human eye and the garbage "evolutionists" clai
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I think I have given enough evidence to suppot that evolution is a lie. However you have not given me a single scientific fact yet. How can a cell evolve from a mixture of chemicals of "soup" and lightening? Let those who want to be ignorant follow evolution.
Andya you havn't given me any scientific evidence yet. Please let me know where on earth there is any enviromental (meaningful) stimulus (not carcinogenic etc) lead to a change in the genomic DNA of an organism to improve it, and that this caould be pass on to the next generation. If you can proof this I will believe in evolution and I will give you 5000 pounds. If you can't and I am sure you can't, so please stop wasting your time and my time lol .
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You are right if you say humans don't come from other primates (monkeys and other apes) that live today. But if we trace the human lineage back to the past, there will be a point where human ancestors look like the apes of today.
I would refine this statement further.
If traced back, human ancestors will NOT look like the apes of today but rather they would look like the ancestors of the apes of today which were also undoubtedly different.
Regards.
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Peace,
To be honest I still do not understand why this is raised as a contentious issue here.
The pro-evolution and anti-evolution people here both believe in the creative power and existence of the God.
In the real world, the battle for evolution is fought by atheists, and the case against evolution is fought by theists. The war is therefore actually between theism and atheism - with evolution used as the pawn between the two parties.
Here we have a different situation. We have the creationists vs the evolutionists. The creationists believe in supernatural means for species to come about, whereas the evolutionist here believes that the existence of humans is a part of the blueprint of the universe all controlled by the God.
Who cares really how it came about? It happenned, we are here. The God says that humans were created from dust, from water, from sperm etc. Why do the creationists here insist that this was a sudden process that materialised a man like a magic trick?
Aren't there signs enough around you that the way the entire universe has come about has taken aeons (large spans of time) - the creation of man from dust and water may (and I believe did) occur over a vast amount of time. Why is this incompatible with the reading?
Why is there any argument?
Regards.
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Hi Truth,
The theory itself is formulated by Atheists, it just give them an alternative to creation. I have asked Professors of Biology who could not give me a clue about it but just saying that its a Theory, and believe me some say its a bad theory and other say they should exclude it from the textbooks.
Peace
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Some light reading for ya...
http//www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange1/current/lectures/selection/selection.html
Natural Selection is the differential reproduction of genotypes.
Evidence of Natural Selection
Let's look at an example to help make natural selection clear.Industrial melanism is a phenomenon that affected over 70 species of moths in England. It has been best studied in the peppered moth, Biston betularia. Prior to 1800, the typical moth of the species had a light pattern (see Figure 3). Dark colored or melanic moths were rare and were therefore collectors' items.
Image of Peppered Moth
Figure 3. Image of Peppered MothDuring the Industrial Revolution, soot and other industrial wastes darkened tree trunks and killed off lichens. The light-colored morph of the moth became rare and the dark morph became abundant. In 1819, the first melanic morph was seen; by 1886, it was far more common -- illustrating rapid evolutionary change.
Eventually light morphs were common in only a few locales, far from industrial areas. The cause of this change was thought to be selective predation by birds, which favored camouflage coloration in the moth.
In the 1950's, the biologist Kettlewell did release-recapture experiments using both morphs. A brief summary of his results are shown below. By observing bird predation from blinds, he could confirm that conspicuousness of moth greatly influenced the chance it would be eaten.
Recapture Success
light moth dark moth
non-industrial woods 14.6 % 4.7 %
industrial woods 13 % 27.5 %Scroll down to natural selection as part of evolution. Evolution is when a species is able to USE genetic mutation and change iin the general gene pool to it's advantage and influence the greater population. In simple terms.
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Hi phoenix1,
Bacteria evolve all the time, because it has got plasmid DNA apart from its genomic DNA. Plasmid can be transfer, which sometimes give bacteria resistant to other antibiotics. Give you an example, E. coli on your face remains E. coli for ever, it will never become another bacteria.
Peace
how do you know that something wouldn't change enough overtime that we would call it by a different name?
For example if an orange has a genetic mutation that makes its skin blue, wouldn't it become a 'blue' instead of an 'orange'? -
Hi Truth,
The theory itself is formulated by Atheists, it just give them an alternative to creation. I have asked Professors of Biology who could not give me a clue about it but just saying that its a Theory, and believe me some say its a bad theory and other say they should exclude it from the textbooks.
PeaceCharles Darwin's views on religion have been the subject of much interest. His work was pivotal in the development of evolution theory which some argue helps show that God is unnecessary, while others feel that attacking Darwin and restricting teaching of evolution helps to evangelise their faith.
Charles Darwin had a Non-conformist background, but attended a Church of England school. He studied Anglican theology with the aim of becoming a clergyman, before joining the Voyage of the Beagle. On return, he developed his theory of natural selection in full awareness that it conflicted with the teleological argument. Darwin deliberated about the Christian meaning of mortality and came to think that the religious instinct had evolved with society. With the death of his daughter Annie, Darwin lost all faith in a beneficent God and saw Christianity as futile. He continued to give support to the local church and help with parish work, but on Sundays would go for a walk while his family attended church.
In his later life, Darwin was frequently asked about his religious views. He went as far as saying that he did "not believe in the Bible as a divine revelation", but was always insistent that he was agnostic and had "never been an Atheist".
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how do you know that something wouldn't change enough overtime that we would call it by a different name?
For example if an orange has a genetic mutation that makes its skin blue, wouldn't it become a 'blue' instead of an 'orange'?Ya we can if the mutation is passed into the following generations! In this case it will not.
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Ya we can if the mutation is passed into the following generations! In this case it will not.
I wonder. Why do you think mutations are not passed to the next generation? It's particularly strange for you as a molecular biologist to say this.
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I wonder. Why do you think mutations are not passed to the next generation? It's particularly strange for you as a molecular biologist to say this.
lol lol lol
Say I acquire a mutation in the canabinoid receptors gene due to some enviromental impact (Gods know what roll ) that I do not get high when a puff weed. How is that gona be passed to my next generation roll
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Say I acquire a mutation in the canabinoid receptors gene due to some enviromental impact (Gods know what Rolling Eyes ) that I do not get high when a puff weed. How is that gona be passed to my next generation Rolling Eyes
peace bmbmm,
i dont understand this. How can genes not be passed down to the next generation. If your DNA is altered in some way, your offspring (which has your DNA) would also have that acquire that alteration. wouldn't it? If i lift weights and build huge muscles, my children won't have that quality, but if i was born with a mutation they would.
I've only taken 9th grade biology and i don't remember much of it, so i might be wrong.
And are there other microbioligsts who don't find any evidence of evolution? -
http//www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=2476
Peace all,
At the above site you'll find a comprehensive refute to the absolutely garbage claims and horrendous lies of the evolutionists who say that the eye is a poor design and because of this structure must have evolved by chance instead of an intelligent source who calculated and adjusted everything accordingly. What a disgrace to humanity these "evolutionists" have become! These people will never earn any respect from me and if anyone here joinds them id say goodbye to them too. These claims are absolutely incomapatible with the Quran. GOD Bless!Lol.
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By the way, the first person to propose that humans are primates was the great Carolus Linnaeus. Linnaeus lived some time before Darwin, that is, before people thought of the idea of evolution.)
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Khaldun
Shanavas, Creation or Evolution an Islamic Perspective Pg 128
Ibn Khaldun The muqaddimah trans. by Franz Rosenthal, Vol. 1, Pg 195
One should then look at the world of creation. It started out from minerals and progressed, in an ingenious gradual manner to plants and animals. The last stage of minerals is connected with the first stage of plants, such as herbs, and seedless plants. The last stage of plants such as palms and vines is connected with the first stage of animals, such as snails and shellfish which have only the power of touch. The word "connection" with regard to these created things means that the last stage of each group is fully prepared to become the first stage of the next group. The animal world widens, its species become numerous, and in a gradual process of creation, it finally leasds to man whi is able to think and reflect. The higher stage of man is reached from the world of monkeys, in which both sagascity ad perception are found, but which has not reached the stage of actual reflection and thinking. At this point we come to the first stage of man (after the world of monkeys). This is as far as our (physical) observations extends.
Al- Biruni, Kitab al-jamahjir fi ma'rifat al-jawahir, (arabic) Hyderbad Dairratu 'L Ma' arif'l Osmania, 1934, p. 80.
"Man reached his maximum degree of perfection compared to other animals below him, He ascended to the present state from other kinds of beings such as dog-like, bear-like, ape-like, etc. Then finally became man."