Sex IS for PLEASURE
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Peace Nabi,
These are aids Sawtooth. They make the experience worthwhile so that people can reproduce. Sex is pleasurable. If sex were not pleasurable then would people do it? Would people have to adopt the means of other species, such as a mating season?
Natural delivery(child birth) isn't physically pleasurable for the women. Infact it can be the most painful experience in one's life. But women do it, dont they?
Peace!
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Peace be upon you Sawtooth,
Ichenphren wrote this in the homesexuality thread
When a woman has an orgasm, it causes her vaginal muscles to contract, helping to propel the sperm into the required space to fertilize the egg
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Peace be upon you Peaceful Muslim,
Natural delivery(child birth) isn't physically pleasurable for the women. Infact it can be the most painful experience in one's life. But women do it, dont they?
It does not have to be painful if one learns the skills needed, namely meditation. Just google pain free childbirth.
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Peace Nabi,
These are aids Sawtooth. They make the experience worthwhile so that people can reproduce. Sex is pleasurable. If sex were not pleasurable then would people do it? Would people have to adopt the means of other species, such as a mating season?
Natural delivery(child birth) isn't physically pleasurable for the women. Infact it can be the most painful experience in one's life. But women do it, dont they?
Peace!
Salam,
The first time is also not pleasurable for most women. roll
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Peace idolfree1,
Natural delivery(child birth) isn't physically pleasurable for the women. Infact it can be the most painful experience in one's life. But women do it, dont they?
It does not have to be painful if one learns the skills needed, namely meditation. Just google pain free childbirth.
Once again, u seem to be loosing track of reality wink
Normal delivery(especially the first time) is bound to be painful. A huge head comes out of the vagina, for God's sake.I agree, being calm would ease a bit but saying it would make it pain free is an overstatement.
Its like saying that if somebody amputates ur hand.......It will be pain free for u if u r in meditation
Peace!
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Peace be upon you,
Once again, u seem to be loosing track of reality
Have you heard of Thich Quang Duc ?
Normal delivery(especially the first time) is bound to be painful. A huge head comes out of the vagina, for God's sake.
I agree, being calm would ease a bit but saying it would make it pain free is an overstatement.
Its like saying that if somebody amputates ur hand.......and it will be pain free for u if u r in meditation
I guess you never heard of Thich Quang Duc, the Buddhist Monk who sat in the Lotus meditation position and poured gasoline on his body and burned himself alive in protest of the Vietnam war, and did not move a muscle.
Here is one of MANY articles you can find on the subject as well as accompanying photos, showing he did not run about in "pain".
http//thewitness.org/archive/mayjune2003/arbogast.html
Just because you dont know about it doesnt make it "unreal".
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Peace idolfree1,
Once again, u seem to be loosing track of reality
Have you heard of Thich Quang Duc ?
Normal delivery(especially the first time) is bound to be painful. A huge head comes out of the vagina, for God's sake.
I agree, being calm would ease a bit but saying it would make it pain free is an overstatement.
Its like saying that if somebody amputates ur hand.......and it will be pain free for u if u r in meditationI guess you never heard of Thich Quang Duc, the Buddhist Monk who sat in the Lotus meditation position and poured gasoline on his body and burned himself alive in protest of the Vietnam war, and did not move a muscle.
Here is one of MANY articles you can find on the subject as well as accompanying photos, showing he did not run about in "pain".
http//thewitness.org/archive/mayjune2003/arbogast.html
Just because you dont know about it doesnt make it "unreal".Rnt we talking of ordinary human beings anymore? I wasnt referring to monks or saints but ordinary people.
Monks/ saints spend all their life meditating to reach where they reach.Now would u say an ordinary human being can emulate this act? This is where I say u r living in ideologies and not being realistic.
Peace!
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Peace
But women do it, dont they?
Sex is not childbirth. They do it because the baby must eventually leave the womb. I do not understand your point here.
The first time is also not pleasurable for most women.
Yes, sex is often masculinized. It is for the pleasure of the male. There are females (I believe a great amount) who have not had the opportunity to know what an orgasm is like, unfortunately. These are the women who have been with the wrong men, who are too , unfortunately, misinformed about sex.
There are tribes that have gone so far to educate the males and females about sex that they teach them how to please their future spouse. I think it is a good thing.
Joe
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Peace idol-free and all.
Quote; 'just beceause you dont know about it doesnt make it unreal.' shock Of all the people i didnt think i would hear this off you ! ? How can peaceful-muslim take this as knowledge without verification ? ! Just because you did not personally witness muhammed doesnt make him untrue ! D idol-free you are human after all ! You even seemed a bit emotional in your post. D
Dont worry im just being light-hearted. D But there is some truth in my comments !
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Peace be upon you Lote Tree,
I have heard people say that the primary use of sex is REPRODUCTION
If you would be more scientific in your approach and not emotional (pleasure), you would see that it is the PRIMARY purpose. Why else would semen come out the penis at the end?
Kyle dear chap read my writing carefully. The word "Anti-Darwinian" is a such give away isn't it to the science of it all wink We are living in a Anti-Darwinian World chap where Darwinian Reproductive Urge is no longer in control but we are. In this world primary use of SEX is for PLEASURE. REPRODUCTION has become secondary and even then a matter of choice.
Pleasure accompanies both cases, but realize that that which gives you pleasure is capable of enslaving you (drugs, money, sex, junk food, all addictions)
Addictions have a complex pathways and is not reducible to a single cause. We human beings can easily get addicted to many bizzare things like train spotting or counting lamposts on sundays! Some even become obsessive about measuring temperature outside with a thermometer wink
Just kiddin -)Anything excess is bad chap. You dont have to tell me that. That is why many wise people of the past like Socrates, Confucious, Buddah etc have chosen the middle ground, avoiding either extremes of self-mortification and indulgence.
Regards,
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Peace "LT" and all,
Sex was always for pleasure primarily, as far as humans are concerned. When Adam and Eve were i heaven there was no reproduction. That is meant to be here on earth only. GOD Bless!Thats a good one Johny from Scritpure point of view wink
Regards,
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Peace
These are aids Sawtooth. They make the experience worthwhile so that people can reproduce. Sex is pleasurable. If sex were not pleasurable then would people do it? Would people have to adopt the means of other species, such as a mating season?
JoeSex is very pleasurable for humans. That is why we don't have mating seasons -)
Regards,
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Peace Nabi,
But women do it, dont they?
Sex is not childbirth. They do it because the baby must eventually leave the womb. I do not understand your point here.
My point was even if sex wasnt this pleasurable and was meant only for conception, couples who want kids might still do it for the sake of procreation, just like women give birth even though its not physically pleasurable for them(infact painful in this case).
Peace!
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Peace be upon you Peaceful Muslim,
Rnt we talking of ordinary human beings anymore? I wasnt referring to monks or saints but ordinary people.
So that person was a super hero? I didn't see the usual flowing cape, sorry
Monks/ saints spend all their life meditating to reach where they reach.
Getting back to my point, there are people who have learned how to meditate and hav had pain free child birth. If you think you must spend your whole life to learn how to meditate, there is nothing I can say to convince you, you must try it yourself.
Now would u say an ordinary human being can emulate this act?
An ordinary human did perform that act. You can do anything if you train properly.
This is where I say u r living in ideologies and not being realistic.
OK.
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A huge head comes out of the vagina, for God's sake.
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And some cases vagina tears like a sheet of paper scared
And the blood oh please don't tell me about the blood scaredRegards,
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Peace be upon you Enquirer,
IF1
'just beceause you dont know about it doesnt make it unreal.'Of all the people i didnt think i would hear this off you
Why? What did I say?
How can peaceful-muslim take this as knowledge without verification
Peaceful Muslim cant take it as knowledge without verification, so I provided the link to start the investigation, complete with observable pictures. If that is not enough, then I can give Peaceful Muslim information about the workshops on pain free child birth, perhaps peaceful muslim can speak to one of them.
Just because you did not personally witness muhammed doesnt make him untrue
As I have said a billion times, one cannot prove his exsistence or his non existence. We are not to go ater that which we have no knowledge. Please pay closer attention before claiming a contradiction.
idol-free you are human after all You even seemed a bit emotional in your post.
Dont worry im just being light-hearted. But there is some truth in my commentsYes I am subject to the same test as all humans, even the Monk who you claim to be something else. However, I havent gotten emotional regarding this topic, it is very easy topic. You dont see me using 100 emoticons D
But Yes, I do get emotional, I am still workin at it, but your assesment here is incorrect.
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Peace Idolfree1,
Rnt we talking of ordinary human beings anymore? I wasnt referring to monks or saints but ordinary people.
So that person was a super hero? I didn't see the usual flowing cape, sorry
U did mention he was a buddhist monk, didnt u?
Do u realise what kind of training a person undergoes to become a monk and what kind of conditions he diciplines himself in? This is their life 24*7.Monks/ saints spend all their life meditating to reach where they reach.
Getting back to my point, there are people who have learned how to meditate and hav had pain free child birth. If you think you must spend your whole life to learn how to meditate, there is nothing I can say to convince you, you must try it yourself.
Like I said meditation and being calm can ease child birth a bit but wont make it pain free. The uterine contractions by themselves are very painful. And then the baby coming out through a narrow vagina.
And I did not say one must spend their whole life to learn how to meditate but yes, to reach the level of enlightment that monks do, to attain the spiritual powers they do.. it takes a lot of commitment, disciplining, focus, devotion and time to it.
Now would u say an ordinary human being can emulate this act?
An ordinary human did perform that act. You can do anything if you train properly.
There is a difference.
A monk performed that act. And they undergo far more training and disciplining which cannot be compared to the meditation an ordinary human being practises for an average of 20-40 mins a day.Peace!
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Peace idol-free and all. If you want re-read some of your recent posts to me and others. Please understand the 'subjectivity' of your posts.(subjectivity is fine,but at least admit you are doing it) Just because you cannot prove the existense or non-existense of muhammed doesnt make him non-existant,thus your theory is un-verified and/or subjective.(and i dont know if you would class your unsureness of his existance as verified knowledge or a fact) .Why dont you say i dont have enough knowledge to make a judgement or i dont know. If i have mis-understood any of your statements i do apologise.
peace and respect.