Quran Alone?
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I agree that it does not change your behavior but you have to agree that it makes me understand any book in arabic much better than those who don't know arabic like ya
absolutely, that however is no guarantee that youll actually understand what is being said. If you understand it or doesnt, will be directly measurable by your attitude towards others, And that is my point wich still stands.
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I agree that it does not change your behavior but you have to agree that it makes me understand any book in arabic much better than those who don't know arabic like ya
absolutely, that however is no guarantee that youll actually understand what is being said. If you understand it or doesnt, will be directly measurable by your attitude towards others, And that is my point wich still stands.
It is up to me to show any attitude I want to any specific group of people, you started to make non sense really, so far you have nothing to stand on other than shaky legs and ground, that is what most Kuffar are
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I agree that it does not change your behavior but you have to agree that it makes me understand any book in arabic much better than those who don't know arabic like ya
absolutely, that however is no guarantee that youll actually understand what is being said. If you understand it or doesnt, will be directly measurable by your attitude towards others, And that is my point wich still stands.
It is up to me to show any attitude I want to any specific group of people, you started to make non sense really, so far you have nothing to stand on other than shaky legs and ground, that is what most Kuffar are
Ok Magi
let me clear this out first, i have noticed that many here call you bro which indicate that you are male, however i found that calling you Mister Magi does not make sense to me, as the name Magi sounds feminine to me, like Miss Magi, soryy possibly is ignornace from my side based on being from an Arabic culture, so to make it easy and simple, can i call Mister Mumbo instead without you gettin upset?, i really fouond a cool name "Mister Mumbo", hmmm, yeh sounds like male to me, please let me know and please consider that Magi and Mumbo starts with an M
Now, can you please educate me what these verses should mean exacly?
Allah does not love the public utterance of hurtful speech unless (it be) by one to whom injustice has been done; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.
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And be not infirm, and be not grieving, and you shall have the upper hand if you are believers.
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Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost for Allah is with you, and will never put you in loss for your (good) deeds.
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8- Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.
9- Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.
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(9)Thank you
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Youre the one who claims you need to understand arabic. shoudltn it be you lecturing me? og wait, you are....again.
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Youre the one who claims you need to understand arabic. shoudltn it be you lecturing me? og wait, you are....again.
Mister Mumbo
I don't want you to lecture me in Arabic, i will be stupid if I do, i posted the english verses for you, do you speak english?
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Youre the one who claims you need to understand arabic. shoudltn it be you lecturing me? og wait, you are....again.
Mister Mumbo
I don't want you to lecture me in Arabic, i will be stupid if I do, i posted the english verses for you, do you speak english?
Yes i do, but unlike a lot of other people im not flanneled by your ad hominem posts. I simply cannot be arsed to enter these scriptural penis size contests of yours. However, i will leave you with a verse
"O you who believe, no people shall ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or call each other names. Evil indeed is the reversion to wickedness after attaining faith. Anyone who does not repent after this, these are the transgressors." (4911)
In Denmark we say "know your horse in the way it walks".
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047.032 Those who reject Allah, hinder (men) from the Path of Allah, and resist the Messenger, after Guidance has been clearly shown to them, will not injure Allah in the least, but He will make their deeds of no effect.047.033
047.033 O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger, and make not vain your deeds!Al-Qur'an, 047.032-033 (Muhammad )
According to Quran only theory, I dont know why Allah mentioned separately to obey Allah AND obey Messenger (as obeying messenger was obeying Allah, and obeying Allah means obeying Messenger).
In my understanding, Obeying Allah is Obeying Word of God,,,,and obeying Prophet is obeying his practical interpretation and explanation of Word of God.
Any person who claims to understand quran himslef better, then he is claiming that his understanding of quran is equal to Prophet(SAw), if not then why does not he get benefit from the understandings of Quran by Prophet? Why does not he consider the better interpretter of Quran? why does not he accept the Ahadith which are NOT against quran and are actually explaining the verses and making easy to understand the contest???
VirtualEye.
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047.032 Those who reject Allah, hinder (men) from the Path of Allah, and resist the Messenger, after Guidance has been clearly shown to them, will not injure Allah in the least, but He will make their deeds of no effect.047.033
047.033 O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger, and make not vain your deeds!Al-Qur'an, 047.032-033 (Muhammad )
According to Quran only theory, I dont know why Allah mentioned separately to obey Allah AND obey Messenger (as obeying messenger was obeying Allah, and obeying Allah means obeying Messenger).
In my understanding, Obeying Allah is Obeying Word of God,,,,and obeying Prophet is obeying his practical interpretation and explanation of Word of God.
Any person who claims to understand quran himslef better, then he is claiming that his understanding of quran is equal to Prophet(SAw), if not then why does not he get benefit from the understandings of Quran by Prophet? Why does not he consider the better interpretter of Quran? why does not he accept the Ahadith which are NOT against quran and are actually explaining the verses and making easy to understand the contest???
VirtualEye.
Its not the prophet we dont trust, it is bukhari,muslim, malik etc... and often they are NOT explaning anything but bakharis lame interpretation of the verses. i find the tafsir on why moses was in a bad mood especially pikant?. That is not directly against the Quran, nevertheless we learn in this single hadith...that moses ran around naked, that stones pick up prophets clothes and run away, and that moses must have been superman, because he beat that dumb rock so it had somewhere between 3 and 6 marks on it, thats how angry moses was....If you belive that, i have some swampland in florida and an old rusty tower in paris you may be interessted in.
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047.032 Those who reject Allah, hinder (men) from the Path of Allah, and resist the Messenger, after Guidance has been clearly shown to them, will not injure Allah in the least, but He will make their deeds of no effect.047.033
047.033 O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger, and make not vain your deeds!Al-Qur'an, 047.032-033 (Muhammad )
According to Quran only theory, I dont know why Allah mentioned separately to obey Allah AND obey Messenger (as obeying messenger was obeying Allah, and obeying Allah means obeying Messenger).
In my understanding, Obeying Allah is Obeying Word of God,,,,and obeying Prophet is obeying his practical interpretation and explanation of Word of God.
Any person who claims to understand quran himslef better, then he is claiming that his understanding of quran is equal to Prophet(SAw), if not then why does not he get benefit from the understandings of Quran by Prophet? Why does not he consider the better interpretter of Quran? why does not he accept the Ahadith which are NOT against quran and are actually explaining the verses and making easy to understand the contest???
VirtualEye.
Its not the prophet we dont trust, it is bukhari,muslim, malik etc... and often they are NOT explaning anything but bakharis lame interpretation of the verses. i find the tafsir on why moses was in a bad mood especially pikant?. That is not directly against the Quran, nevertheless we learn in this single hadith...that moses ran around naked, that stones pick up prophets clothes and run away, and that moses must have been superman, because he beat that dumb rock so it had somewhere between 3 and 6 marks on it, thats how angry moses was....If you belive that, i have some swampland in florida and an old rusty tower in paris you may be interessted in.
Those Imams were hasitant to comment about doubtful Ahadith because they were not daring as what if they reject some hadith according to their thinking and if it is a real hadith??? But now people just without any knowlede immediately issue "Fatwa" that all is rubbish (Naoozubillah). This is called responsibility which Imams showed.
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047.032 Those who reject Allah, hinder (men) from the Path of Allah, and resist the Messenger, after Guidance has been clearly shown to them, will not injure Allah in the least, but He will make their deeds of no effect.047.033
047.033 O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger, and make not vain your deeds!Al-Qur'an, 047.032-033 (Muhammad )
According to Quran only theory, I dont know why Allah mentioned separately to obey Allah AND obey Messenger (as obeying messenger was obeying Allah, and obeying Allah means obeying Messenger).
In my understanding, Obeying Allah is Obeying Word of God,,,,and obeying Prophet is obeying his practical interpretation and explanation of Word of God.
Any person who claims to understand quran himslef better, then he is claiming that his understanding of quran is equal to Prophet(SAw), if not then why does not he get benefit from the understandings of Quran by Prophet? Why does not he consider the better interpretter of Quran? why does not he accept the Ahadith which are NOT against quran and are actually explaining the verses and making easy to understand the contest???
VirtualEye.
Its not the prophet we dont trust, it is bukhari,muslim, malik etc... and often they are NOT explaning anything but bakharis lame interpretation of the verses. i find the tafsir on why moses was in a bad mood especially pikant?. That is not directly against the Quran, nevertheless we learn in this single hadith...that moses ran around naked, that stones pick up prophets clothes and run away, and that moses must have been superman, because he beat that dumb rock so it had somewhere between 3 and 6 marks on it, thats how angry moses was....If you belive that, i have some swampland in florida and an old rusty tower in paris you may be interessted in.
Those Imams were hasitant to comment about doubtful Ahadith because they were not daring as what if they reject some hadith according to their thinking and if it is a real hadith??? But now people just without any knowlede immediately issue "Fatwa" that all is rubbish (Naoozubillah). This is called responsibility which Imams showed.
when youre source material is 90% provable rubbish. And you go on to realease a collection with the last 10% of wich more than 80% is still a matter of debate, youre not being responsible. Youre a lending legitimacy to possible lies, wich is excactly what happened.
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simple yes and no answers for you
Is God kidding when he says that he doesn't run out of words? Is he kidding when he says that his word is complete and NOTHING shall aborgate his words? Is he kidding when he says 'today i have completed the religion for you' What is your definition of today? 200 years later?
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peace brother "ike",
simple yes and no answers for you
Is God kidding when he says that he doesn't run out of words? Is he kidding when he says that his word is complete and NOTHING shall aborgate his words? Is he kidding when he says 'today i have completed the religion for you' What is your definition of today? 200 years later?
the quran makes it clear that it is the only source of religion and yet when god alone is mentioned, their heart's shrink with aversion and when others are mentioned alongside with him they rejoice... do you not read the quran VE. not only that but there was a reason why allah said not to mention any other names besides him when reciting prayer...
peace, rifat
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the quran makes it clear that it is the only source of religion and yet when god alone is mentioned, their heart's shrink with aversion and when others are mentioned alongside with him they rejoice... do you not read the quran VE. not only that but there was a reason why allah said not to mention any other names besides him when reciting prayer...
peace, rifat
For Allah's sake, use your brain. Was this reference for Sunnis? This reference was for Mushriks who associated others with Allah.
What is the meaning of God name alone??
The meaning is that His name as the only God mentioned. Who told you Sunni muslims mention Prophet to be God? or they associate Prophet to Allah?.....Whenever they mention the name of Prophet they witness him to be the Prophet, not God. And they dont ask for help from prophet (except some people which even I dont agree to them) or they dont ask for the things they should only ask to Allah.Go wash your eyes and come back,,, and then read the following verses with full attention
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024.047 They say, "We believe in Allah and in the messenger, and we obey" but even after that, some of them turn away they are not (really) Believers.024.048
024.048 When they are summoned to Allah and His messenger, in order that He may judge between them, behold some of them decline (to come).Al-Qur'an, 024.047-048 (An-Noor )
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033.036 It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.Al-Qur'an, 033.036 (Al-Ahzab )
Here the word "And" tells something,,, "And" messenger means there is something to be obeyed what messenger says in addition to the only devine words of Allah. The word messenger/Rasool mentions that the word "And" is not associating someone with Allah but mentioning the "Prophet"....
So combined "And His Messenger" clear the meanings as Daylight.Now if anybody want to follow his wishes to twist the straight meanings then I dont care.
Sincerely,
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peace ve,
For Allah's sake, use your brain. Was this reference for Sunnis? This reference was for Mushriks who associated others with Allah.
the quran is a guidance for all so therefore, this could be the reference for those who consider themselves to be servant of allah.
What is the meaning of God name alone??
the meaning of God name alone means that all praises are due to him and NOBODY else. if the prophet became the prophet due to the will of god then why do we need to praise the prophet,
ve, praising the prophet and supporting the prophet are different. supporting the prophet simply means that you are supporting the message of the quran since the prophet lived his life according to the quran. do not ask me if something is in the "hadith" and "not in the quran" because the quran contains all info. necessary to live a righteous life. which hands do you use to eat food and which feet you strike before leaving the house is clearly superstition and not connected to GOD ALONE .
The meaning is that His name as the only God mentioned. Who told you Sunni muslims mention Prophet to be God? or they associate Prophet to Allah?.....Whenever they mention the name of Prophet they witness him to be the Prophet, not God. And they dont ask for help from prophet (except some people which even I dont agree to them) or they dont ask for the things they should only ask to Allah.
when the sunnis mention "god created this universe only for mohammed and in miraaj mohammed had direct contact with god" arn't they implying something? they are implying that the only way to achieve god is through mohammed and god cannot be acheived directly is enough evidence to equate mohammed with god. in the quran allah directly says "do not make distinctions among the prophets"
Go wash your eyes and come back,,, and then read the following verses with full attention
it's you who needs to open up your heart for a 'spiritual surgery'
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024.047 They say, "We believe in Allah and in the messenger, and we obey" but even after that, some of them turn away they are not (really) Believers.024.048
024.048 When they are summoned to Allah and His messenger, in order that He may judge between them, behold some of them decline (to come).Al-Qur'an, 024.047-048 (An-Noor )
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033.036 It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.Al-Qur'an, 033.036 (Al-Ahzab )
it doesn't take an idiot to figure out that god exists... without the exposure of the quran.(then who created all this, anyone would say there is a god,deep down. trust me,atheists use an excuse to avoid religios people or they believe this universe was created by chance ) but the laws of life and how to live a rightous life you just don't wake up one day and 'know' them. that is why allah addresses the messenger seperately in the quran directly telling you to live accordingly by the quran which was basically how the prophet lived.
Here the word "And" tells something,,, "And" messenger means there is something to be obeyed what messenger says in addition to the only devine words of Allah. The word messenger/Rasool mentions that the word "And" is not associating someone with Allah but mentioning the "Prophet"....
So combined "And His Messenger" clear the meanings as Daylight.Now if anybody want to follow his wishes to twist the straight meanings then I dont care.
Sincerely,
VirtualEyeobeying allah simply means have faith in him. simply have an agreement with the light in your heart that yeah, you are physically a believer in god. you could be a criminal and have faith in god "oh, god save me from punishment". but following the messenger means following the quran, which was how mohammed's life was. this means now you are officially a muslim since you have faith spiritually and you are abiding by your spiritual covenant by following the messenger which is abiding by the laws of the quran. clearly quran is enough for me .
virtualeye brother/sister, NO MATTER WHAT THE ENEMIES OF ISLAM TRY TO DO, SUCH AS REFUTE THE MESSAGE OF THE QURAN THE TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAIL TO DETESTIFY FALSEHOOD.
sincerly, truthseeker rifat
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peace ve,
which hands do you use to eat food and which feet you strike before leaving the house is clearly superstition and not connected to GOD ALONE .I ask refuge from Allah and decide not to answer your questions further.
For the last time,,,I want to mention the value of right hand, which will demolish your greek philosophy that these things are superstitious. Here is the reference
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017.071 One day We shall call together all human beings with their (respective) Imams those who are given their record in their right hand will read it (with pleasure), and they will not be dealt with unjustly in the least.Al-Qur'an, 017.071 (Al-Isra )
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056.008 Then (there will be) the Companions of the Right Hand;- What will be the Companions of the Right Hand?056.009
056.009 And the Companions of the Left Hand,- what will be the Companions of the Left Hand?Al-Qur'an, 056.008-009 (Al-Waqia )
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056.027 The Companions of the Right Hand,- what will be the Companions of the Right Hand?Al-Qur'an, 056.027 (Al-Waqia )
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056.038 For the Companions of the Right Hand.Al-Qur'an, 056.038 (Al-Waqia )
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037.093 Then did he turn upon them, striking (them) with the right hand.Al-Qur'an, 037.093 (As-Saaffat )
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039.067 No just estimate have they made of Allah, such as is due to Him On the Day of Judgment the whole of the earth will be but His handful, and the heavens will be rolled up in His right hand Glory to Him! High is He above the Partners they attribute to Him!Al-Qur'an, 039.067 (Az-Zumar )
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056.090 And if he be of the Companions of the Right Hand,056.091
056.091 (For him is the salutation), "Peace be unto thee", from the Companions of the Right Hand.056.092
056.092 And if he be of those who treat (Truth) as Falsehood, who go wrong,056.093
056.093 For him is Entertainment with Boiling Water.Al-Qur'an, 056.090-093 (Al-Waqia )
Enough? NO? ok here are more
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069.019 Then he that will be given his Record in his right hand will say "Ah here! Read ye my Record!Al-Qur'an, 069.019 (Al-Haaqqa )
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074.039 Except the Companions of the Right Hand.Al-Qur'an, 074.039 (Al-Muddaththir )
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084.007 Then he who is given his Record in his right hand,084.008
084.008 Soon will his account be taken by an easy reckoning,Al-Qur'an, 084.007-008 (Al-Inshiqaq )
VirtualEye.
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The left or right hand is a hygenic issue that still serves a lot of people nowdays as their knowledge on hygene is small. Even in the western world used to eat with their right hand, and use only their left hand in the bathroom. As still can be seen in the habit of giving a hand with the right, and if done with the left is insulting, which directly links back to the old custom and even the importance of keeping the right and left seperate as their functions. As there was no soap in the old world, only water and sand/dirt, this was ancient wisdom, that was grown out of experience over the years. This was not something Muhammed invented, as he also was brought up with this knowledge, which he learned from his pagan family. For this knowledge you don't have to be a prophet, but a child of that age. So through soap, this custom has lost its use, but is something smart to remember if your in a situation without soap for a long period. This is not something with religious value, but in the ancient world, education of the people went hand in hand together with health issues. And so a lot of times, the religious leaders made hygenic behaviour, a religious
matter, to make sure people took it serious. Which is understandable.Peace
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peace virtualeye,
I ask refuge from Allah and decide not to answer your questions further.
you just can't except god alone can you?
i have nothing else to say to you but this
"And when God Alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter are filled with aversion; and when others are mentioned beside Him, they rejoice"
the signature of the administrators zenje and layth as well as the significant verse (3945)
peace, rifat
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The left or right hand is a hygenic issue that still serves a lot of people nowdays as their knowledge on hygene is small. Even in the western world used to eat with their right hand, and use only their left hand in the bathroom. As still can be seen in the habit of giving a hand with the right, and if done with the left is insulting, which directly links back to the old custom and even the importance of keeping the right and left seperate as their functions.
PeaceOne the judgement day,,,Allah will not give the reslut of our deeds in right hand due to some hygene purposes.
Using separate hands for eating and bathroom is a different thing and using right hand specifically is a different thing.VirtualEye.
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peace arnoldyasin, ve,
The left or right hand is a hygenic issue that still serves a lot of people nowdays as their knowledge on hygene is small. Even in the western world used to eat with their right hand, and use only their left hand in the bathroom. As still can be seen in the habit of giving a hand with the right, and if done with the left is insulting, which directly links back to the old custom and even the importance of keeping the right and left seperate as their functions. As there was no soap in the old world, only water and sand/dirt, this was ancient wisdom, that was grown out of experience over the years. This was not something Muhammed invented, as he also was brought up with this knowledge, which he learned from his pagan family. For this knowledge you don't have to be a prophet, but a child of that age. So through soap, this custom has lost its use, but is something smart to remember if your in a situation without soap for a long period. This is not something with religious value, but in the ancient world, education of the people went hand in hand together with health issues. And so a lot of times, the religious leaders made hygenic behaviour, a religious
matter, to make sure people took it serious. Which is understandable.Peace
you see, virtualeye, there is a difference between faith and what you are brought up with. so that means that muslims who pray five times without reading the quran is not faith, since there is no connection to the"nurr of your heart/god given light which you live by", but if there is a connection then allah is the best judge concerning prayer.
ve, this free-minds message is not necessarily rejecting sunni ideology, this website is based on as phoenix1 stated on the another thread "people are following their own path" in my words, everybody is different and diversity shall be promoted through religion.
peace, rifat