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Why no record of prophets in europe,australasia and america?

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    phoenix1
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    because you can't become the lord of the universe. )
    you can only become Muhammad.

    peace.

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      because you can't become the lord of the universe. )
      you can only become Muhammad.

      peace.

      They can't even emulate Muhammad, talk about becoming Lord of the Universe. O0

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        it is possible to become the "Lord of the Flies" )

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          They can't even emulate Muhammad, talk about becoming Lord of the Universe.

          This is good reply. Gald to see coming from you Danish

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            They can't even emulate Muhammad, talk about becoming Lord of the Universe.

            This is good reply. Gald to see coming from you Danish )

            Quite effective, brief and precise without going into details. Thanks KGB.

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              Peace all
              My next question to you is that there are a few times God is clearly reprimanding the Prophet for things done and said. There is an instance when God states (in loose terms) "...we know that you were weak and were ready to give in to their demands. Had you inclined to their wishes in the slightest you would have suffered double retribution now and in the hereafter." Another instance of shunning a blind man for asking questions. If this is supposed to be the ultimate archetype personality and not the man Mohamed, why, according to your theory, would God include mishaps?

              very good question, but if anyone will have a shot by saying that God also wants to teach us the mishaps, then why only these two remote examples, we have zillions of clear cut mishaps?, why those few ones mentioned in the Quran?

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                Peace be upon you S2S,

                But I don't see a place in your theory for showing the mistakes of an ultimate personality-type "Mohamed" or "Moses" etc. Please enlighten me.

                One can only grow through the trials of life, if no one made mistakes there could be no growth. Error have to be shown.

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                  Peace be upon you Danish,

                  They can't even emulate Muhammad

                  Does it make sense to believe in such a "suprhero" 1400 years ago that cant be verified, but believe that none today can achieve that level of behavior?

                  Imagine the sperm as they take thier journey towards the egg, only one will actually fertalize the egg, imagine if that sperm judged by what was goingon around him?

                  The problem with mankind is they use men as a benchmark and not the God, whose attributes we are suppossed to be manifesting. Thats what "muhammad" does, thats what "ibrahim" does, manifest the Divine Attributes.

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                    Kyle

                    Very simple question. Abraham, Jesus, Noah, Lot, Moses are they real Prophets? Who was the last Prophet?

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                      Kyle

                      Qur'an never said that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was some kind of superhero. This is the lie you make up for your eqo statisfaction. Provide evidence that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was a superhero if you are telling the truth.

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                        Peace be upon you KGB,

                        Very simple question. Abraham, Jesus, Noah, Lot, Moses are they real Prophets?

                        They are archetypes, not literal people. There are people all throughout history and alive today who manifest some or all of thier qualities.

                        Who was the last Prophet?

                        There are still prophets, no such thing as "last" prophet.

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                          Kyle

                          This means that you really have no faith and without faith you can't understand Qur'an. You are tallking non sense. All you are doing chaning the simple clear verses of Qur'an to fit your frame of mind.

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                            KyleThey are archetypes, not literal people. There are people all throughout history and alive today who manifest some or all of thier qualities.

                            As per al-quraan, I disagree. Al-quraan confirms that these are stories of the past (12/102) but also call them 'ibraat' (12/111).

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                              Peace be upon you KGB,

                              Qur'an never said that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was some kind of superhero

                              "Koran" doesnt talk about any person named Muhammad. My statement is that if there was some guy 1400 years ago that another human cannot emulate, he must be some super human person. Isnt that why you add (SAW) behind that name? And dont add anything behind "Allah"?

                              This is the lie you make up for your eqo statisfaction. Provide evidence that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was a superhero if you are telling the truth.

                              Nonsense. Peace to you.

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                                This means that you really have no faith and without faith you can't understand Qur'an. You are tallking non sense. All you are doing chaning the simple clear verses of Qur'an to fit your frame of mind.

                                KGB, God Himself is telling us that his ayaat (including those about Musa, Isa etc) appear in our souls (41/53). So how can it be nonsense?

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                                  Peace be upon you ,

                                  As per al-quraan, I disagree. Al-quraan confirms that these are stories of the past (12/102) but also call them 'ibraat' (12/111).

                                  Elsewhere the stories are decribed as metaphors, so they are nothing but figures whose characters are to be emulated.

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                                    Elsewhere the stories are decribed as metaphors, so they are nothing but figures whose characters are to be emulated.

                                    I'm not disputing their function which I agree you're right. However, I accept al-quraan in totality which means I accept both temporal and extra-temporal aspects of their reality.

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                                      4153 Soon will We show them our Signs in the (furthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?

                                      I don't know the meaning of this verse. I will try to understand because its allegorical verse.

                                      This verse did not say that Allah will raise Kyle to the status of Muhammad. Kyle if belongs to Nation of Islam than I can understand what he is saying.

                                      I follow what is marked in red.

                                      37 He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.

                                      Kyle is following the allegorical part. You are intelligent enough to know why.

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                                        mquran
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                                        This verse did not say that Allah will raise Kyle to the status of Muhammad. Kyle if belongs to Nation of Islam than I can understand what he is saying.

                                        Hehe, no it doesn't say that, you're right. KGB, first lets analyse the meaning of 'ayat'. An 'ayat' is an indicator of something. Musa is explained to us via various ayat. In order for us to experience the same situations, we act upon Musa's ayat. Musa is then vivified in our souls, as per 41/53. It's about 'status of musa' but rather the indicators in our own lives about Musa.

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                                          MQuran inshaAllah I will try to undersand this verse. I might ask TG and Ahmed Bahgat to explain it to me.

                                          Kyle here is one prophet for you right in U.S.A.

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