Verse 17:36 The New Idol???

thegod

ahmedbahgat wrote
EXACTLY bro

yups! -)

ahmedbahgat wrote
Thanks

anytime! -)

ahmedbahgat wrote
in verse 343 where it says "Nisaa Al-Alameen", Al-Alameen IS NOT AN ADJECTIVE, it can't be because the thing that is to be described DOES NOT HAVD THE AL (Nisaa), therefore Al-Alameen is called "Muddaf Elahe"

yes...they are changin of their own desire "aalameen" to "aalimeen"...and i am going to ask reasons behind this...tomorrow somebody will say the bay and yay and tay and thay are all mixed up!

but if they say it is "knowlegeables" then it is an adjective.....so it should agree in gender! -)

KGB

Salaam TG Ahmed Bahgat
Very interesting discussion. I am unable to participate due to lack of my Arabic knowledge. Keep it up.

unknownuser

Hello TG

yes if it is an adjective then it has to be feminine because it describes the women, exactly as Marie said

Preace

thegod

kgb wrote
Salaam TB Ahmed Bahgat

tb? -S lolz

Very interesting discussion. I am unable to participate due to lack of my Arabic knowledge. Keep it up.

this is the last 1...i hope...then i will move on! -)

salaam -)

KGB

Corrected TB. Move on. Why? There are plenty of members who are trying to change the meaning of Qur'an here on FM. Stay and put them to rest.

unknownuser

Stay and put them to rest.

It is a duty according to the Quran

but it seems they don't want to rest therefore we will not rest

peace

thegod

ahmedbahgat wrote
yes if it is an adjective then it has to be feminine because it describes the women, exactly as Marie said

knowlegeable is! -)

ahmedbahgat wrote
It is a duty according to the Quran

-S

ahmedbahgat wrote
but it seems they don't want to rest therefore we will not rest

cool! -)

peace! -)

Someone

Peace thegod, all

1255

Here is the example of youssof being .

Now your turn, just give one verse alluding to that the root means "world", in the singular form.

I will give others examples unless if the god wills.

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thegod

kgb wrote
Corrected TB.

cool...tb..-S

kgb wrote
Move on. Why? There are plenty of members who are trying to change the meaning of Qur'an here on FM. Stay and put them to rest.

i have karmic duhs to contend with! -S lolz..never mind that! -)

thegod

someone wrote
I will give others examples unless if the god wills.

aalimeen is the plural of alim...aalameen is not the plural of alim!

how did u change the word aalameen to aalimeen? i mean what makes u change the diacritical marks? or do u consider aalameen as aalameen and not aalimeen!

peace -)

kestrel

salaam thegod all

what kGB said is correct

Aleem - Knowledgeable

alAAalameena - Worlds / Universe

examples for "Aleem" are

402 The revelation of the Scripture is from God, the Noble, the Knowledgeable.

402 Tanzeelu alkitabi mina AllahialAAazeezi alAAaleemi

1255 He said "Make me keeper over the granaries of the land, for I know how to keep records and I am knowledgeable."

1255 Qala ijAAalnee AAala khaza-inial-ardi innee hafeethun AAaleemun

and an example for "alAAalameena" is

397 In it are clear signs the place of Abraham. And whoever enters it will be secure. And God is owed from mankind to make Pilgrimage to the Sanctuary, whoever can make a path to it. And whoever rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.

397 Feehi ayatun bayyinatunmaqamu ibraheema waman dakhalahu kana aminanwalillahi AAala alnnasi hijjualbayti mani istataAAa ilayhi sabeelan waman kafarafa-inna Allaha ghaniyyun AAani alAAalameena

I'm 100% sure as I used these words tens of tousands times in my everyday life.

But still the discussion between you and idolfree is interesting. ;D
A discussion between a true believer (you) and a hell creature.
A discussion between a wiseman (you) and a hypocrite who hates Mohammad.
A discussion between an Aleem and a Zaleem D

peace

KGB

Salaam Kestrel

Nice that you too join the discussion.

But still the discussion between you and idolfree is interesting. Grin
A discussion between a true believer (you) and a hell creature.
A discussion between a wiseman (you) and a hypocrite who hates Mohammad.
A discussion between an Aleem and a Zaleem

;D

unknownuser

Salaam Kestrel

Nice that you too join the discussion.

But still the discussion between you and idolfree is interesting. Grin
A discussion between a true believer (you) and a hell creature.
A discussion between a wiseman (you) and a hypocrite who hates Mohammad.
A discussion between an Aleem and a Zaleem

;D

wow

that was really tougher than saying the opinion is stupid

cheers

marie

Peace all,

I'mp not "the father of the grammar sibawayh" but I can see the logic inside the sentences in the Reading.

nisa-i almu/mineena = the wives of the believers (3359)

In 3359 almu/mineena has the same statute regarding nisa-i than al-AAalameen in 342

I hope you see the difference. almu/mineena speeks of the man believers, which makes wrong the translation of al3almeen as those who know (plural masculine) in 342, that doesn't make sense

Praise to the God, the creterion is inside the Reading.

thegod

kestrel wrote
what kGB said is correct

yes...he is right...aleem means knowledgeable! -)

aalimeen is derived from 'ilm'...and is the plural of aleem!

aalameen is derived from 'ilm'....but is not the plural of aleem!

so giving examples of 'aleem' when i am asking for aalameen does not help! -)

kestrel wrote
397 In it are clear signs the place of Abraham. And whoever enters it will be secure. And God is owed from mankind to make Pilgrimage to the Sanctuary, whoever can make a path to it. And whoever rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.

yes, 397 is going to be another task for them! -)

salaam -)

thegod

marie wrote
Praise to the God, the creterion is inside the Reading.

yes, the quran crushes falsehood! -)

u opted outta moderating certain sections? -)

peace!

marie

Salam thegod

u opted outta moderating certain sections? -)

I'm limited in time, this is why I asked Layth to leave this mission for another person who is more available than me.
I suggest brother Ahmad Bahgat to be the fourth moderator.

PS
I remain a member of this forum

Peace

unknownuser

Peace Marie... Your baby is beautiful,and very cute...just like my little boy. sun

unknownuser

Salam thegod

u opted outta moderating certain sections? -)

I'm limited in time, this is why I asked Layth to leave this mission for another person who is more available than me.
I suggest brother Ahmad Bahgat to be the fourth moderator.

PS
I remain a member of this forum

Peace

Thank you Marie

it is enough honor to me that you hardly know me yet put your trust on me, thanks again

cheers

marie

Peace Marie... Your baby is beautiful,and very cute...just like my little boy. sun

Thanks for your nice word.

Peace and best wishes