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Verse 17:36 The New Idol???

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    KGB
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    Salaam TG Ahmed Bahgat
    Very interesting discussion. I am unable to participate due to lack of my Arabic knowledge. Keep it up.

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      unknownuser
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      Hello TG

      yes if it is an adjective then it has to be feminine because it describes the women, exactly as Marie said

      Preace

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        thegod
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        kgb wrote
        Salaam TB Ahmed Bahgat

        tb? -S lolz

        Very interesting discussion. I am unable to participate due to lack of my Arabic knowledge. Keep it up.

        this is the last 1...i hope...then i will move on! -)

        salaam -)

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          KGB
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          Corrected TB. Move on. Why? There are plenty of members who are trying to change the meaning of Qur'an here on FM. Stay and put them to rest.

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            unknownuser
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            Stay and put them to rest.

            It is a duty according to the Quran

            but it seems they don't want to rest therefore we will not rest

            peace

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              thegod
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              ahmedbahgat wrote
              yes if it is an adjective then it has to be feminine because it describes the women, exactly as Marie said

              knowlegeable is! -)

              ahmedbahgat wrote
              It is a duty according to the Quran

              -S

              ahmedbahgat wrote
              but it seems they don't want to rest therefore we will not rest

              cool! -)

              peace! -)

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                Someone
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                Peace thegod, all

                1255

                Here is the example of youssof being .

                Now your turn, just give one verse alluding to that the root means "world", in the singular form.

                I will give others examples unless if the god wills.

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                  thegod
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                  kgb wrote
                  Corrected TB.

                  cool...tb..-S

                  kgb wrote
                  Move on. Why? There are plenty of members who are trying to change the meaning of Qur'an here on FM. Stay and put them to rest.

                  i have karmic duhs to contend with! -S lolz..never mind that! -)

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                    thegod
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                    someone wrote
                    I will give others examples unless if the god wills.

                    aalimeen is the plural of alim...aalameen is not the plural of alim!

                    how did u change the word aalameen to aalimeen? i mean what makes u change the diacritical marks? or do u consider aalameen as aalameen and not aalimeen!

                    peace -)

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                      kestrel
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                      salaam thegod all

                      what kGB said is correct

                      Aleem - Knowledgeable

                      alAAalameena - Worlds / Universe

                      examples for "Aleem" are

                      402 The revelation of the Scripture is from God, the Noble, the Knowledgeable.

                      402 Tanzeelu alkitabi mina AllahialAAazeezi alAAaleemi

                      1255 He said "Make me keeper over the granaries of the land, for I know how to keep records and I am knowledgeable."

                      1255 Qala ijAAalnee AAala khaza-inial-ardi innee hafeethun AAaleemun

                      and an example for "alAAalameena" is

                      397 In it are clear signs the place of Abraham. And whoever enters it will be secure. And God is owed from mankind to make Pilgrimage to the Sanctuary, whoever can make a path to it. And whoever rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.

                      397 Feehi ayatun bayyinatunmaqamu ibraheema waman dakhalahu kana aminanwalillahi AAala alnnasi hijjualbayti mani istataAAa ilayhi sabeelan waman kafarafa-inna Allaha ghaniyyun AAani alAAalameena

                      I'm 100% sure as I used these words tens of tousands times in my everyday life.

                      But still the discussion between you and idolfree is interesting. ;D
                      A discussion between a true believer (you) and a hell creature.
                      A discussion between a wiseman (you) and a hypocrite who hates Mohammad.
                      A discussion between an Aleem and a Zaleem D

                      peace

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                        KGB
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                        Salaam Kestrel

                        Nice that you too join the discussion.

                        But still the discussion between you and idolfree is interesting. Grin
                        A discussion between a true believer (you) and a hell creature.
                        A discussion between a wiseman (you) and a hypocrite who hates Mohammad.
                        A discussion between an Aleem and a Zaleem

                        ;D

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                          unknownuser
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                          Salaam Kestrel

                          Nice that you too join the discussion.

                          But still the discussion between you and idolfree is interesting. Grin
                          A discussion between a true believer (you) and a hell creature.
                          A discussion between a wiseman (you) and a hypocrite who hates Mohammad.
                          A discussion between an Aleem and a Zaleem

                          ;D

                          wow

                          that was really tougher than saying the opinion is stupid

                          cheers

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                            marie
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                            Peace all,

                            I'mp not "the father of the grammar sibawayh" but I can see the logic inside the sentences in the Reading.

                            nisa-i almu/mineena = the wives of the believers (3359)

                            In 3359 almu/mineena has the same statute regarding nisa-i than al-AAalameen in 342

                            I hope you see the difference. almu/mineena speeks of the man believers, which makes wrong the translation of al3almeen as those who know (plural masculine) in 342, that doesn't make sense

                            Praise to the God, the creterion is inside the Reading.

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                              thegod
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                              kestrel wrote
                              what kGB said is correct

                              yes...he is right...aleem means knowledgeable! -)

                              aalimeen is derived from 'ilm'...and is the plural of aleem!

                              aalameen is derived from 'ilm'....but is not the plural of aleem!

                              so giving examples of 'aleem' when i am asking for aalameen does not help! -)

                              kestrel wrote
                              397 In it are clear signs the place of Abraham. And whoever enters it will be secure. And God is owed from mankind to make Pilgrimage to the Sanctuary, whoever can make a path to it. And whoever rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.

                              yes, 397 is going to be another task for them! -)

                              salaam -)

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                                thegod
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                                marie wrote
                                Praise to the God, the creterion is inside the Reading.

                                yes, the quran crushes falsehood! -)

                                u opted outta moderating certain sections? -)

                                peace!

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                                  marie
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                                  Salam thegod

                                  u opted outta moderating certain sections? -)

                                  I'm limited in time, this is why I asked Layth to leave this mission for another person who is more available than me.
                                  I suggest brother Ahmad Bahgat to be the fourth moderator.

                                  PS
                                  I remain a member of this forum

                                  Peace

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    Peace Marie... Your baby is beautiful,and very cute...just like my little boy. sun

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      Salam thegod

                                      u opted outta moderating certain sections? -)

                                      I'm limited in time, this is why I asked Layth to leave this mission for another person who is more available than me.
                                      I suggest brother Ahmad Bahgat to be the fourth moderator.

                                      PS
                                      I remain a member of this forum

                                      Peace

                                      Thank you Marie

                                      it is enough honor to me that you hardly know me yet put your trust on me, thanks again

                                      cheers

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                                        marie
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                                        Peace Marie... Your baby is beautiful,and very cute...just like my little boy. sun

                                        Thanks for your nice word.

                                        Peace and best wishes

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                                          thegod
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                                          marie wrote
                                          I suggest brother Ahmad Bahgat to be the fourth moderator.

                                          yeah...cool! would like like to be replaced by like somebody who believes by the quran! -)

                                          marie wrote
                                          I remain a member of this forum

                                          cool! -)

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