Is 'hate' the biggest sin?
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Peace Enquirer, All,
Peace all. Just looking around the world,and in ones life,it seems that the negative emotion that leads to a huge amount of misery,oppression and injustice is hate...
What say you?It is not hate. It is fear.
Fear gives way to all things negative. -
"misery, oppression and injustice"
Misery, oppression and injustice are attributable to those who have wealth. Lust for wealth and fear for loosing it make them miser, oppressor and unjust. Hatred comes from vanity in those who gains power, and from sense of defeat in those who are oppressed. Hatred may also gain control over them who were once oppressed against the now defeated oppressors. What is winning, defeat and safety in ultimate sense? Polytheism, secularism, nationalism etc. have got various answers. Abraham and Muhammad etc. had a different answer.
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Peace be upon you Taj,
Absolutely correct! Fear is the underlying factor of the NEGATIVE expression of emotions. It is connected to the Kidney Energy system of chinese medicine, which backs this position.
However, with that being said, the biggest "sin" is disunity, or associating partners to the ONE. When we loose the unified mindset, then we view other people/things as being against us, so there is a fear which manifests and fear, anger, jealousy, etc.
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Peace all,
Inayat khan?s writing over fear is very intressting
( Fear is considered by the mystics to come from the action of the earth element, and its effect is to make the body stiff at the moment when a person is afraid. According to metaphysics fear is caused by the lack of light. Therefore the more light there is in the heart the more fearless the heart becomes. There is the Surah of the Quran, which supports this, where it is said, 'There is no fear in the mastermind.'
Fear arises from the strangeness of an object or from ignorance on the part of the person who fears. There is a verse of a Marathi poet, who says that, 'It is the self that creates for itself the object of fear ? one's fear comes from oneself.' Every attitude towards life has a re-echo, and the attitude is formed by expectation. When one expects one's fellow man to love one, his fellow man does love him, and when one expects harm from another, then harm comes. When a person is afraid of a dog, he gives the dog a tendency to bite him. This can be noticed so plainly in the lower creation, that every animal is afraid of another animal, and the expectation of harm makes it fear more than does the idea of the hugeness of the form or the bodily strength of another animal. Many things in life can be brought about, not only by wanting them and thinking about them, but also by fearing them, both objects and conditions. To clear one's mind of fear is like bringing light into a dark room, and as light is needed to illuminate a dark room so the light of the soul is necessary to clear away the thought of fear.
Man is more impressionable than any other living being, owing to the fineness and sensitiveness of his nature, but at the same time man alone is capable of rising above all fear, for in him there is a torch that can show him a way through the darkness. Man fears all that is hurtful and harmful in any form, and more than all, man fears what he calls death. As in the case of every object and condition that arouses fear, the fear is caused by ignorance, so even the fear of death is caused by ignorance. Man is afraid if he is in the water, where even so helpless a creature as a fish feels safe. It is not only the fact that man is incapable of remaining in the water that makes him afraid, but also the water is a strange world to him. He does not know what is in it. Many have died in the water of fright of the water before having actually sunk. This life of names and forms is therefore called by the mystics Maya, an illusion, which is apt to be made into that which one would like to make it. When one fears, this world frightens one, but when one clears one's heart of all fear, the whole world of illusion turns into one single vision of the sublime immanence of God. )
peace,
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Peace
I believe the reading points out that shirk is the gravest of sins .
Joe
Exactly bro
man, I wonder what those philosophers will say to Allah on the JD?
hmmm...
possibly sorry?
not sure if that sorrow will be even accepted, i guess not
Peace
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Peace all. Can anyone tell me the 'practical' consequences in this life,of so-called shirk with god......And can anyone tell me that they have NEVER committed shirk,or will not do so in the future...?
Peace all. ps;im not referring to idol-frees' definition of shirk.(which i partly agree with.) -
Peace
Hate certainly is problematic .... but the question of good and bad does not find an answer in a love/hate dichotomy, I think.
Love can equally lead you to horrible things. You can easily corrupt your own principles when you love the wrong person.
Very easily.Or even worse, some people love things .... love of money tends to be much more dangerous than hate of it, I?d say.
Likewise, I think hating the deeds of guys like Hitler, Bin Laden, child molesters who killed several little girls is a sign of a sane mind.
Loving and hating the right persons and things is the question. When you e.g. love Hitler but hate blacks then you?re in big trouble.
All passions and feelings can become dangerous when they become an idol for us, shirk. This is as true for love as it is for hate or fear or courage or whatever .... .
Regards,
Leyla
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Peace Enquirer, All
Peace all. Can anyone tell me the 'practical' consequences in this life,of so-called shirk with god......And can anyone tell me that they have NEVER committed shirk,or will not do so in the future...?
Peace all. ps;im not referring to idol-frees' definition of shirk.(which i partly agree with.)You will not be able to find many people who have the courage to admit that he/she is/was a mushrik, that is if they would take the time and effort to realize that they have it! Especially when you know that Al Shirk can sometimes be so subtle and harder to spot than a black ant on a black dress at a pitch black night!
I don't think that there are always obvious 'practical' consequences in this life for the mushrikeen.
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Peace Taj. Appreciate your candidness...Although my 'concept' of shirk may be different from others. (i believe shirk is when a person is believing/practising in an harmful illusion.) I believe that many of us have done/are doing this through ignorance or negative emotions...
'Let him who is without sin cast the first stone'... Positive,realistic moral education is vital in trying to counter-act 'shirk'...
Peace all. ps;i dont think shirk is an 'automatically damnable' offense...We just have to stop/reduce our illusionary behaviour and/or try to make amends for the harm we have done... -
Hello Public
It seems many don?t understand what shirk really is, they think shirk is considering another god or another human as a god in addition to the real God, well it is surely as such but it also has another meaning that does not conflict with the more obvious meaning, consequently shirk is both meanings, the other meaning is exactly as the Quran told, IF YOU LISTEN TO SATAN THEN YOU HAVE SHIRKED
For example God said that He sent the Quran to us, Satan said "no it is not sent by God rather the words of a bunch of anonymous scribes", those who will listen to Satan will be Mishrikoon, because instead of listening to Allah they listened to Satan, let?s see how the Arabic Quran confirms that
Let me start by highlighting Satan's main objective, It is clearly to flaw everyone of us, he is so committed that he said this to Allah
(Iblis) said "Then, by Thy power, I will put them all in the wrong,-?
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-> By the power of God, Iblis will do his best to put all the humans in the wrong, you have to know that Iblis main enemy are the believers not the unbelievers, he needs to do nothing more for the unbelievers, unless they think of believing then he will come back to them from every where trying hard to put them in the wrong again
16- He said Now, because Thou hast sent me astray, verily I shall lurk in ambush for them on Thy Right Path.
17- Then I shall come upon them from before them and from behind them and from their right hands and from their left hands, and Thou wilt not find most of them beholden (unto Thee).
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(17)-> See, ? verily I shall lurk in ambush for them on Thy Right Path? and how he will do it? ? I shall come upon them from before them and from behind them and from their right hands and from their left hands, and Thou wilt not find most of them beholden (unto Thee).?
A major problem for those humans who obey satn instead of Allah is this, their horrible crime of rejecting the Quran as being the words of Allah as it says about itself looks like a good deed to them
What! is he whose evil deed is made fairseeming to him so much so that he considers it good? Now surely Allah makes err whom He pleases and guides aright whom He pleases, so let not your soul waste away in grief for them; surely Allah is Cognizant of what they do
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-> See again, the believers who submitted to Allah and accepted the Quran as His true and unchanged words, should not waste their souls away in grief for those who obeyed Satan ? so let not your soul waste away in grief for them;? because ? surely Allah is Cognizant of what they do?
If you listen to the your Enemy instead of your God, wouldn?t that make you a Mushrik?
Verily Satan is an enemy to you so treat him as an enemy. He only invites his adherents, that they may become Companions of the Blazing Fire.
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-> Please pay attentions to the words ? He only invites his adherents, that they may become Companions of the Blazing Fire.?, that is what he did with those who reject that the Quran is the exact and preserved words of our God, he only invited them so they become his companions in the blazing fire, and sure rejecting the Quran and claiming it is a mere human words is enough to secure a horrible and eternal seat in the blazing fire, even if they do Salat 1000 times a day, their seat is secured unless they repent.
Let me put it again in points (What Iblis must do to the humans)
- He will recognise that they want to believe
- He comes to them from every where to stop that from happening
- He invites them through ignorance, arrogance and self pride to suggest that the Quran is not the true words of God
- They accepted the invitation and flawed themselves, this made Iblis very happy
- They secured their seat in the blazing fire if they insist on that non sense and don't repent before death come to them suddenly and I tell you if you die a Mushrik, get ready for a bashing party
- Iblis moves to another human while monitoring the flawed one just in case he/she thinks of considering the Quran as the exact words of Allah again
This is in effect constitutes great SHIRK, here is why again
- Allah told us, the Quran is His real and exact preserved words
- Iblis said it is not
- The ones who listened to Satan and took his words over the words of Allah HAS SHIRKED. And what shirk that is, they shirked Satan with Allah
Iblis himself can?t be a Mushrik, because he never obeyed anyone else other than Allah, Iblis is ONLY a Kafir because he only disobeyed Allah but never associated partners with Allah by listening to them over the words of Allah.
This crystal clear fact of SHIRKING SATAN WITH ALLAH will be told to those ignorant humans by Iblis himself on the JD
And Satan will say when the matter is decided "It was Allah Who gave you a promise of Truth I too promised, but I failed in my promise to you. I had no authority over you except to invite you but ye listened to me then reproach not me, but reproach your own souls. I cannot listen to your cries, nor can ye listen to mine. I reject your former act in associating me with Allah. For wrong-doers there must be a grievous penalty."
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-> See, when the JD verdict is passed, Iblis will tell whoever he managed to invite flaw ? And Satan will say when the matter is decided It was Allah Who gave you a promise of Truth I too promised, but I failed in my promise to you.?, the fact of the matter is, Satan never had authority on us but a mere invitation ? I had no authority over you except to invite you but ye listened to me?, but he can?t be blamed because he didn?t force them ? then reproach not me, but reproach your own souls.?, in fact is, both will be crying hard at that time ? I cannot listen to your cries, nor can ye listen to mine.?, then he will tell them that their actions was SHIRK ? I reject your former act in associating me with Allah.?
Those Mushrikoon will have the shock of an eternal life when they die, the angels of death are waiting for the time to come and take your soul and when it happens while you are a Mushrik ?i.e. obeying Satan andnot obeying Allah? then get ready for a bashing party by the angels, imagine being bashed and you are helpless to defend yourself, and even if you are strong how can you beat the angels?, well here is a sample movie for a human bashing another human, the one who is bashed had his hands tight behind his back, he is helpless to defend himself
Mushrik Bashing Part 1
Mushrik Bashing Part 2
Mushrik Bashing Part 3
Mushrik Bashing PartySalam All
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Very good post Ahmed Bahgat. Will they understand and come to the truth? I doubt it. They are trying to find the signs in Qur'an completly ignoring the clear verses of Qur'an.
Peace Sadiqi.
Thank you Sadiqi, I'm abit tired though so I will fix the typos and grammar tomorrow inshaallah LOL
Good night my friend
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Salam AhmedBahgat, all,
Very good post mashaAllah.
Hello Public
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Iblis himself can?t be a Mushrik, because he never obeyed anyone else other than Allah, Iblis is ONLY a Kafir because he only disobeyed Allah but never associated partners with Allah by listening to them over the words of Allah.
.......Very true, that's what I think is the difference between a kafir and a mushrik, and that explains the several clear verses in Quran that state "ina Allah la yuhibu al kafereen" (literally "Allah does NOT LOVE al-kafereen (plural of kafir)". So to go back to the subject of hate, it is fully legitimate to hate even if we are labelled "less humanist" -).
Can you please tell me from where I can get those arabic verses with tashkeel that you are able to paste in your messages? I use Burhan Quran search engine but there is no tashkeel there. Your help is appreciated. Many thanks in advance. Peace. Myr. -
Salam AhmedBahgat, all,
Very good post mashaAllah.
Hello Public
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Iblis himself cant be a Mushrik, because he never obeyed anyone else other than Allah, Iblis is ONLY a Kafir because he only disobeyed Allah but never associated partners with Allah by listening to them over the words of Allah.
.......Very true, that's what I think is the difference between a kafir and a mushrik, and that explains the several clear verses in Quran that state "ina Allah la yuhibu al kafereen" (literally "Allah does NOT LOVE al-kafereen (plural of kafir)". So to go back to the subject of hate, it is fully legitimate to hate even if we are labelled "less humanist" -).
Can you please tell me from where I can get those arabic verses with tashkeel that you are able to paste in your messages? I use Burhan Quran search engine but there is no tashkeel there. Your help is appreciated. Many thanks in advance. Peace. Myr.Good Morning Sister
Thanks mate, here is the url for the best web site for the Arabic Qur
http//quran.muslim-web.com/
cheers
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Peace Myr and others.
(literally "Allah does NOT LOVE al-kafereen (plural of kafir)". So to go back to the subject of hate, it is fully legitimate to hate even if we are labelled "less humanist" -). from Myr
I think a Muslim does not allow vanity to have any place in his mind. Sheerk and vanity just have absolutely no place in Muslim heart. Godhead and vanity belongs only to Allah.
Allah said that the universe is made for mankind. Yet I can not be proud in front of the universe and just can not shout with vanity raising my finger that I am a superior being. Allah said, ?kuntum khaira ummatin?. Yet I can not be proud, and boast before non-Muslims for my being Muslim. Similarly, I can not say, ?I am an Irish, I am proud of it?.
Now about hatred. Allah said that He does not love the ?Kafirs?. He created the Kafirs and He loves them not. But who am I to hate a Kafir? How can I hate a Kafir? I am not the creator or the owner of the kafirs. More over, the terms ?Does not love? and ?hates? may not mean the same.
Muslims are asked to remain cautious, prepared against their enemies. Hatred has not been encouraged. Muslims are also cautioned that hatred must not lead them to cross the limits of justice against their enemies. Here Islam only accepted the reality that many of the members of the Muslim community may feel hatred against the persecutors. You know, each and every individual may not succeed in attaining the highest degree of moral.
Ideally, a Muslim Imam takes sword out of love and wisdom, not in response to hatred.
Hatred should not be diminished, I think, only in the case of physical hygiene. It has nothing to do with human relations.