Translation of `Jinn`

unknownuser

Peace

Don't worry about him bro, he is a typical confused ranter

it is enough we watch Mister Oven teaching us Arabic, it is time to have a good laugh

Take care mate

unknownuser

Ahmed Bro,
Thanks to you and others, I am staying on this forum...
Salam

True_Blue

Greetings and Peace,

I have a question along the same lines as the subject matter of this post. Are these the only four categories of creatures that God has created

1.) Angels
2.) Jinns
3.) Humans
4.) Animals

Forgot to add this How come we can only see animals and not the angels and jinns? Your opnions?

God be praised.

arnoldyasin

Peace,

Angel is wrongly translated, mailkah means 'one in control/authority, and refers to anything that fits that title. From forces of nature to kings and so on.
As for jinn, please read my article to see why the old view doesn't fit

http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=6089.0

It is attached to that post, see below it.

unknownuser

Peace True Blue
Allah says in the Quran that the day a community will see Angels, that means their time of reckoning has come. This does not fit with the idea that Angels are not real beings. We will certainly see Angels at the time of our death.
PS I will not argue about Jinns as I got slapped by a mod about it...

unknownuser

peace

you dont see angels and jinns because they are a test of faith, if you saw them there would be nothing to believe and everything would be pointless. It's like if everybody could see God wouldn't they all believe?

unknownuser

Peace
Respectfully
I believe the Jinns issues are another ball game altogether.

phoenix1

you dont see angels and jinns because they are a test of faith, if you saw them there would be nothing to believe and everything would be pointless. It's like if everybody could see God wouldn't they all believe?

everyone CAN see God.

and how does not having invisible beings to blindly believe in make everything pointless?

unknownuser

Peace. The Believers are the ones who when the ignorant address them, they answer Peace - Quran ...

phoenix1

ooohh so I get it, everyone that disagrees with you is ignorant.

nabster, you never answered my question. Is it possible for you to be wrong?

unknownuser

Peace

unknownuser

peace

you dont see angels and jinns because they are a test of faith, if you saw them there would be nothing to believe and everything would be pointless. It's like if everybody could see God wouldn't they all believe?

Exactly

I can't believe those literalists who can't believe that they are hidden creatures as Allah told us

for them you should see what exists, well do they see God?

as you said bro it is all about testing the faith

Cheers

unknownuser

Peace True Blue
Allah says in the Quran that the day a community will see Angels, that means their time of reckoning has come. This does not fit with the idea that Angels are not real beings. We will certainly see Angels at the time of our death.
PS I will not argue about Jinns as I got slapped by a mod about it...

Again bro, how those clear cut literalists can't see the verse you are talking about?

Cheers

unknownuser

Peace

Can I ask bro, why you are logging in as a guest?

Cheers

phoenix1

peace Ahmed,

Exactly

I can't believe those literalists who can't believe that they are hidden creatures as Allah told us

for them you should see what exists, well do they see God?

as you said bro it is all about testing the faith

Cheers

I see God, and I see God. Both literally and metaphorically.

unknownuser

peace Ahmed,

Exactly

I can't believe those literalists who can't believe that they are hidden creatures as Allah told us

for them you should see what exists, well do they see God?

as you said bro it is all about testing the faith

Cheers

I see God, and I see God. Both literally and metaphorically.

Peace bro

I think you mean metaphorically only because Allah can't be seen for real yet, no human sae Him for real yet

Salam

phoenix1

peace

You cannot see God, but you can see It's signs. The signs are everywhere (and not just in a book).

unknownuser

Good bro, then seeing Him is a metaphor only not literal

Cheers

phoenix1

OK.

unknownuser

and how does not having invisible beings to blindly believe in make everything pointless?

........arrogance ......., who said i 'blindly believe' .......thats right anything YOU dont agree with is blind belief right? you are just as close-minded as the sunnis, you just live under a different label. Don't confuse your point of view with the truth...

if you could prove to me (without abusing the Quran i.e. taking it out of context to fit your point of view) that these beings don't exist, i'd be more than happy to believe