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"I / We"

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    unknownuser
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    peace

    i have heard the theory that I refers to God only. And We refers to God and angels or others etc... However I remember reading verses like this

    234 And We said to the Angels "Yield to Adam," so they yielded except for Satan, he refused and became arrogant, and became of the rejecters.

    235 And We said "O Adam, reside you and your mate in the paradise, and eat from it bountifully as you both wish, and do not approach this tree, else you will be of those who did wrong."

    238 We said "Descend from it all of you, so when the guidance comes from Me, then whoever follows My guidance, they will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve."

    Does this verse not provide the answer that We = Me i.e. God only?

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    God bless

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      Samia
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      My reply might need more research, but from the verses you mentioned, and some other verses, I think that Allah refers to Himself as "We" when He speaks as The Lord (Rab), a position of Sovereignity and Mighty; and when He is speaking as (Allah), a position of Mercy and Guidance, He refers to Himself in the singular pronoun. Watever the correct answer is, I believe that We or I both refer to God.

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        Alen
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        As salamu alaykum.
        Respectfully. jedi

        I agree with Samia, 100%. Some people in this country also have problems getting this WE and I thing and when they hear how queen of England also refers to herself as WE, then they get it.

        Of course, it is wrong that humans (king and queens) refer to themselves as WE. They shouldn't but what can you do?

        Well put, Samia, excellent post.
        As salamu alaykum. jedi

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          Samia
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          Thanks Alen for you kind, encouraging comment.

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            Fahad1
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            salam alaikum.

            i was wondering if these three pronouns "I" , "We" ,and "He" have anything to do with verse 4251 , because it states that Allah has three methods of communictaion with human beings and in the Koran also three pronouns("I" , "We" ,and "He&quot are used.

            4251 And it is not for any human that Allah would communicate with him except through inspiration/wahi ,or from behind a veil/hijab , or by sending a messenger/rasool to inspire whom He wills by His leave . Surely He is high, wise.

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              unknownuser
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              peace

              well how does the arabic language work in this respect?

              I mean in my first language urdu we can be singular.

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                wildguest1956
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                See http//www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Grammar/robinson.html
                http//www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Grammar/iltifaat.html

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                  Samia
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                  As Alen mentioned above, "we" in Arabic could be used by a sovereign instead of "I"; but also when you do not want to go personal, as in writing a research/thesis; it would be more appropriate to use the plural "we" than "I" as in "when we investigated this matter, we found that..". One could also use the plural "we" in politeness as when applying for a job or when making a demand/request in formal situations.

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                    unknownuser
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                    peace

                    understood... thanks for the info... I thought it'd make sense We would refer to God only just needed clarification

                    God Bless

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                      unknownuser
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                      peace

                      understood... thanks for the info... I thought it'd make sense We would refer to God only just needed clarification

                      God Bless

                      This is actually common in the Arabic and Hebro languages

                      Cheers

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                        unknownuser
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                        Peace be upon you,

                        "I/We" depends on your point of view. God is the core of our being. Remember, The God blew into us from Its Divine Energy(Ruh Ul Qudus).

                        God is showing us our true Divine nature. WE=US, and so it is changes back and forth through the entire mesasage.

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                          warner
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                          Peace

                          While on ?I? and ?We? discussion we can not neglect the use of ?Me? and ?Us? also.

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                            unknownuser
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                            peace

                            from what i understand so far

                            arabic is not the same as english in which We and Us is always plural

                            In arabic we/us can be singular

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                              unknownuser
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                              peace

                              from what i understand so far

                              arabic is not the same as english in which We and Us is always plural

                              In arabic we/us can be singular

                              Peace mate

                              it is not lieke can be singualr, in fact it is not, but it is common in arabic to metaphorically refer to a singualr and it only means respect

                              Peace

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                                unknownuser
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                                peace ahmed

                                I understand. Urdu (which is derived from arabic) and my first taught language is exactly this way in that respect

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  peace ahmed

                                  I understand. Urdu (which is derived from arabic) and my first taught language is exactly this way in that respect

                                  Peace mate

                                  I think I misunderstood what you meant by "can be", sorry

                                  it seems that many languages have this metaphorical use of plural to refer to a singular, even English

                                  well, no wonder all languages came from the same and one God

                                  Salam

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