Women In Paradise
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LOL so that is why phoenix1 changed his name rotfl
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Peace all. What do the gay people in paradise get,men or women....?
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Peace alen. Not for me either,but no gays in heaven then? And what trauma you referring to?
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Peace alen. Not for me either,but no gays in heaven then? And what trauma you referring to?
peace No justice for gays...? muscle handshakeSalaam.
That's right, gays, lezbians are sinners, we have proof in the Qur'an.
What trauma? I'm no shrink, but ask your doctor WHAT CAUSES a person that he becomes a gay or a lesbian?Being a gay/lesbian is not normal.
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Peace all. What do the gay people in paradise get,men or women....?
Salaam.
First of all, being gay is a sin in Islam.
Second, .... actually, there is no second.
Gays have experienced some trauma and that's why they're gays.Sad but not for me.
Salaam.
Wa'Salaam
That's right Alen. And sinners might never enter Paradise. It's only for Allah to make the final decision. -
That's right Alen. And sinners might never enter Paradise. It's only for Allah to make the final decision.
Men doing rituism only not devoting his life to ad-deen, are sinners too.
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Salaam.
That's right, gays, lezbians are sinners, we have proof in the Qur'an.
What trauma? I'm no shrink, but ask your doctor WHAT CAUSES a person that he becomes a gay or a lesbian?Being a gay/lesbian is not normal.
Salaam.Again, very well put brother Alen. Keep up your wise perception and ignore the ignorant!
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Salam,
Actually is being gay a sin?Maybe not totally.Some guys for examples,may like males for sexual companionship,but they dunt act upon it,they can have clean and purely friendship based relationships with other guys without trespassing the line.Hence though their inclination is homosexual they keep God's law.Am i wrong to say this?They only become sinners when they practice sex with the males instead of the females as spelled out in a verse.....
Salam
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Salam,
Actually is being gay a sin?Maybe not totally.Some guys for examples,may like males for sexual companionship,but they dunt act upon it,they can have clean and purely friendship based relationships with other guys without trespassing the line.Hence though their inclination is homosexual they keep God's law.Am i wrong to say this?They only become sinners when they practice sex with the males instead of the females as spelled out in a verse.....
SalamSalam.
First you need to explain how you define sexual companionship. I mean, what does that exactly mean?
Being gay is sin, regardless of sex. It is not normal for two men or women to engage in sexual uintercourse or kiss each other on the lips or sleep naked together because sooner or later the two in question will start "experimenting" and that will make them easy prey for shaytan.Just like dating is a sin.
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Salam brother alen,
By practicing sex,what i meant was by being involved in anything sexual,such as kissing,sleeping naked,touching etc.
Peace
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Salam brother alen,
By practicing sex,what i meant was by being involved in anything sexual,such as kissing,sleeping naked,touching etc.
PeaceSalam, brother.
Being a gay or a lezbian is not normal.
Why?
Let me explain.
Two men or two women will live together and try to do everything that usual married couple (man+woman) do. They eat together, sleep, hold hands, kiss, watch tv, work, play cards, talk and argue.
One day, two men or two women wills ay that they want a child. Here's the problem two men need a uterus and two women need some seed. How and where to get these things?
Two gays will say"The two of us are missing a uterus and we would like you (one of their female friends) to have OUR child. Female friend will get attached to a child, how will she give up the baby? What does a woman becomes in this world where two men ask her to just PRODUCE them a child? Is this woman a birth-giving machine, who bears children like some miniature human factory?If two men were NORMAL, they would not need THE HELP OF THE THIRD PARTY. The way i see it, Allah Most Powerful ghave me EVERYTHING that i need here eyes to see, ears to hear, nose to smell, mouth, vocal cords, teeth and lips with a tongue to speak and brains to use logic and common sense.
Allah Most Wise also gave me knowledge and a person who will help me to continue my genes, my DNA a woman. She has the uterus and i got seeds. Together, me and this woman work perfectly well. If men and women would be allowed to have sex and marriages among same sexes, humankind would soon follow T-REX. Da, i know, i know.
Salam.
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Salaam matinbhagat
Well what do you feel about this verse when Allah says that we are suppose to subdue or lower our eyes
Qur'aan 2431
Tell the believing men that they should subdue their eyes, and to maintain their chastity. This is purer for them. Allah is fully Cognizant of everything they do.Allah in the Qur'aan does not support homsexuality period. So about those homosexuals who lust with their eyes of another man if they are a man or a women if they are a woman. Would that also be a sin commited by homosexuals even if they do not have that unnatural physical sex that many do?
Salam,
Actually is being gay a sin?Maybe not totally.Some guys for examples,may like males for sexual companionship,but they dunt act upon it,they can have clean and purely friendship based relationships with other guys without trespassing the line.Hence though their inclination is homosexual they keep God's law.Am i wrong to say this?They only become sinners when they practice sex with the males instead of the females as spelled out in a verse.....
Salam
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..... Allah in the Qur'aan does not support homsexuality period. .....
Absolutely correct
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Salam brother no_shirk,
you are absolutely right.Lusting with the eyes is also not permitted,hence homosexuality is surely not permitted.Agreed. -) peace brother.This forum has always been enlightening.
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Salaam lovelymoslems
Since you have made that declaration do you believe Muslims will go to hell and not Heaven?
Are you a non-Muslim?
Muhammad was only true if the wolrd was rules by Islamic deen. Thats the heaven we sought for. We do not believe that rituism can lead men going to heaven (place after death). Robbana atina fidunya hasanah wa fil akhirati hasanah, means create heaven in the wolrld first - i.e. make the deen be followed by men - and you will mandatory gain the heaven (after death).
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Salaam lovelymoslems
I notice that your post are not really clear in terms of the direction or directions you are going in.
I noticed that you evaded answering my original question that I posed to you, is there a reason why? Do you not stand by your position in your previous post from which I raised the question? Below is what you not I have said
"If you think Paradise is a pleasant place for moslems after death, you will have endless and unsoved discussions"
Since you (lovelymoslems), not I have made that declaration do you believe Muslims will go to hell and not Heaven?
Are you someone parading themselves as a Muslim but really is not a Muslim at all?
You have used this word "rituism". Now let me ask you this do you consider observing Salaat, Ramadaan a ritual that is man made, something that we should not observe as Muslims?
Salaam
Salaam lovelymoslems
Since you have made that declaration do you believe Muslims will go to hell and not Heaven?
Are you a non-Muslim?
Muhammad was only true if the wolrd was rules by Islamic deen. Thats the heaven we sought for. We do not believe that rituism can lead men going to heaven (place after death). Robbana atina fidunya hasanah wa fil akhirati hasanah, means create heaven in the wolrld first - i.e. make the deen be followed by men - and you will mandatory gain the heaven (after death).
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Salam alekom we rahmatoallah we barakaatoo my brothers and sisters
Really we must get back onto our original topic, women in paradise)
Just I want to address a few things which I find a bit disturbing that some people here are closed eyed about. For example someone mentioned basically that a man has a green light over the woman in sexual matters. Really this cannot be possible because the old fashioned way of thought that men desire sex more, is negative/untrue. Women also desire it as much as the men so please dont be one minded about this. The second thing about our prophet sallallahu alahe we salam being given the green light with his wives...I have read this verse someone gave as an example many times and still I fail to understand it in sexual meanings.
Getting back to the original topic, i have heard many many things in regards to men having others as well as his wife from the earth, in junnah (providing they both go there). Always this thing made me feel not fine, and like I didnt feel islam was okay really. I use to be afraid to read surah el rahman because my brother in law scared me so much basically saying the men will have all these women and the woman will just care about her beauty and not feel jealousy. Eventually when I began to read all of the quran every month, I couldnt avoid surah el rahman anymore and u know the interesting thing? when I read it I felt so peaceful and I didnt find anything in the quran to say the man will take more than his spouse/s. Also I blieve as sister zainab and some others here, in junnah we are living a different life and sexual desires will not be present.
Idont say that any of you are wrong in ur beliefs and Icant blame you for how you are thinking because lets be honest, the people who make these lies and deceptions are strong minded and make u feel as though u are not a good muslim if you understand things differently. Jst i want to tell everyone here, at the end of the day it is between u andAllah. Dnt waste too much time speaking to many people about a topic, rather go to the quran and read it over and over again. try to learn the quranic arabic too and educate yourself more and more about our beautiful religion. Allah subhaana we ta ala has made us Muslims in submission to Allah. Its our duty to find the right from the wrong. As I said, at the end of the day its between u and Allah and believe that Allah will make u feel what is right and what is wrong because once u know the right, u will feel peace in your heart.
May we all find happiness in Junnah bismillah ar rahman ar raheem
asalam alekom we rahmatoallah we barakaatoo
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Peace all,
The reason a lot of people find male chauvinistic sexual connotations in some of the verses relevant to Paradise is because those verses have been deliberately and completely mistranslated by majority of the (male) translators.
For example
5556 In them are attendants with a splendid look, unknown before by any human or Jinn.
The correct translation is
5556 In them are best of fruits close by, untouched before by any human or Jinn.
5570 In them is what is good and beautiful.
The correct translation is
5570 In them is goodness/benefits most excellent
5572 Companions, inside grand pavilions.
The correct translation is
5572 Pure, confined in tents
5622 And wonderful companions
The correct translation is
5622 And pure/clear springs
4454 So it is, and We coupled them with wonderful companions.
The correct translation is
4454 So it is, and We granted/gave them pure springs
5220 They recline on arranged furnishings, and We coupled them with wonderful companions.
The correct translation is
5220 They recline on arranged furnishings, and We granted/gave them pure springs
3852 And with them are attendants with a splendid look and of equal age.
The correct translation is
3852 And with them are best of fruits close by and matching
3748 And with them are attendants with wide eyes and a splendid look.
The correct translation is
3748 And with them are springs, close by/within close proximity
3749 They are like fragile eggs.
The correct translation is
3749 Like crystal white, carefully guarded
For in depth explanation of the above translations, readers are encouraged to please check out the detailed article at the following link
http//www.geocities.com/yaseen_q/hur-article.htm