Muhammad did not write the Quran...
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I think that it's not even important if Muhammad wrote the Qur'an with his own hand or if he ordered his friends to write it down, what is important, is that we follow IT.
Bravo, bro Alen!
Also, all arabic names have meanings. it doesn't necessarily mean they don't refer to real people
Peace All
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Salam soul2squeeze,
Gd point there about arabic names haing meanings.Cool.
Peace to all brothers n sisters
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Muhammad tells the Katib (secretary) verses and the the katib wrote what Muhammad said. But it was not mean Muhammad is illiterate.
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Hello All
I?m not going to agree or disagree regarding te word ?Ummi? however in the following verse we read
And you did not recite before it any book, nor did you transcribe one with your right hand, for then could those who say untrue things have doubted.
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-> Clearly it says ? ?, ? And you did not recite before it any book,?, i.e. Mohammad never read a book before, then it says ? ?, ? nor did you transcribe one with your right hand?, while this means that Mohammad may or may not be literate, what follows next indicates that he was illiterate ? ?, ? for then could those who say untrue things have doubted.?, i.e. Mohammad was illiterate before the revelation of the Quran because if he was literate, the people at his time would have doubted him
Salam
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Salaam Ahmed and all
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-> Clearly it says ? ?, ? And you did not recite before it any book,?, i.e. Mohammad never read a book before, then it says ? ?, ? nor did you transcribe one with your right hand?,
The direct object in the phrase (? ?, ? nor did you transcribe one ) does not refer to the qur'aan, as you know. It does not necessarily imply that he did not write down the qur'aan , as it cannot imply he did not read the qur'aan after it was written either. In fact, what it says is Mohammad neither read nor had he written a book BEFORE. When you say I never did this before, it would emply that this is your first time.
If he was illiterate, how was he able to check that the qur'aan was written correctly? How did he, for example, made sure that (in the name of God) ( ) should be written without an "alif", but should be written with an alif elsewhere, as in ( )? The examples are many. In fact, believing that Mohammad was illiterate does much more harm, as it opens the door wide to allegations that there are errors in the Qur'aan.
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Salaam Ahmed and all
Salam sister
The direct object in the phrase (? ?, ? nor did you transcribe one ) does not refer to the qur'aan, as you know.
I agree
It does not necessarily imply that he did not write down the qur'aan , as it cannot imply he did not read the qur'aan after it was written either. In fact, what it says is Mohammad neither read nor had he written a book BEFORE.
I agree again
When you say I never did this before, it would emply that this is your first time.
I agree
If he was illiterate, how was he able to check that the qur'aan was written correctly?
possibly he became literate after the Quran revelation or possibly halfway down the revelation, i really don't know nor it will matter to me
How did he, for example, made sure that (in the name of God) ( ) should be written without an "alif", but should be written with an alif elsewhere, as in ( )? The examples are many. In fact, believing that Mohammad was illiterate does much more harm, as it opens the door wide to allegations that there are errors in the Qur'aan.
Well, as I said he might became literate after the Quran revelation or half way through it
but what I'm sure about that Allah was the one in charge in collecting it and compiling it as He told us, the humans did the job during Uthman time and Mohammad was not really living during that time, so for Mohammad to qualify it during Uthman is invalid, at the end of the day Allah was the one who guided whoever to collect it and compile it in one book
Cheers
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Hello All
I?m not going to agree or disagree regarding te word ?Ummi? however in the following verse we read
And you did not recite before it any book, nor did you transcribe one with your right hand, for then could those who say untrue things have doubted.
(4
-> Clearly it says ? ?, ? And you did not recite before it any book,?, i.e. Mohammad never read a book before, then it says ? ?, ? nor did you transcribe one with your right hand?, while this means that Mohammad may or may not be literate, what follows next indicates that he was illiterate ? ?, ? for then could those who say untrue things have doubted.?, i.e. Mohammad was illiterate before the revelation of the Quran because if he was literate, the people at his time would have doubted him
Salam
Al Kitab is not necessarily equal to Book. KItab = kataba = promulgate a law.
Muhammad before getting spirit from Allah, never recite or transcribe Kitab, as his Kitab was Abu Jahal's kitab.
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Hello All
Im not going to agree or disagree regarding te word Ummi however in the following verse we read
And you did not recite before it any book, nor did you transcribe one with your right hand, for then could those who say untrue things have doubted.
(4
-> Clearly it says , And you did not recite before it any book,, i.e. Mohammad never read a book before, then it says , nor did you transcribe one with your right hand, while this means that Mohammad may or may not be literate, what follows next indicates that he was illiterate , for then could those who say untrue things have doubted., i.e. Mohammad was illiterate before the revelation of the Quran because if he was literate, the people at his time would have doubted him
Salam
Al Kitab is not necessarily equal to Book. KItab = kataba = promulgate a law.
Muhammad before getting spirit from Allah, never recite or transcribe Kitab, as his Kitab was Abu Jahal's kitab.
Peace,
well, the word "Tatlu" that came before "Kitab" means that "Kitab" is a book for read
cheers
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Peace bro "AB" and all,
Yes these are marvellous points brought up here and ive thought about the verse you brought up too. Maybe Prophet Muhammad was literate before the rev of Quran but didnt have pratice with a book/scripture neither did he write one before OR better yet he never actually wrote a book or story like most of the poets were doing at that time but he did have the ordinary understanding of the letters and could read and write. This would explain it, i guess. GOD Bless!