I HAVE 19 KIDS!
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aslm brothers and sister of the forum! handshake handshake handshake
i decided to open a new topic to discuss about the over population we going thru today.
and specially with religious couples which think having more kids will make their religion the dominant one.
the world today is over populated so there is less resources,food,and place for everyone.people keep on having kids just to see how their faces look,or pride,or make them what they couldnt be,send them to a nice school and make them rich so when they are old they are well supported.and i know it from own experiences.people dont know why they have kids no more,and if they know its has no useful porpuse for the world.remember we gotta think as a whole.whats best for our world? and so on.
plus there is thousands of orphans,and more now because of wars,waiting to get a chance,and you gonna make a kid from scratch?
i understand back in the days where there wasnt lots of people so they did had reproduce.
but i wanna know what people think about this issue.
im not allah to order, or want to change his plan,but if you find a way to see it helpfull youll find it......or wont?
please reply anything u feel like saying...
thanks for reading and may allah bless all of you!
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salaam
which think having more kids will make their religion the dominant one.
Depends on whether you believe in quality or quantity. Israel & the Arab world readily come to mind.
regards
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Peace AspeRin,
You have raised valid and important issues. I have two children myself, and I'm happy that I do. Something to keep in mind though, you can plan to have 5 or even 20 children, and not get even 1. You can plan to have no children for the rest of your life, yet some time in the future find out you're getting twins! You can even plan to adopt and NOT be successful. Think about that. That is not to say that you shouldn't plan for your future, but always remember what you just said yourself...
im not allah
To think having more kids will make one's religion dominant is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. There's so many things wrong with that idea, I can't even begin to address it. However, you are right, the world is over-populated, and there's a lot more things that are wrong with the world, and having more kids is no help.
Peace be with you.
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Peace,
I'm a big fan of nature. When I read about it or watch documentaries, I can't help but be in awe of how nature constantly cleanses and balances herself. If a wilderbeast calf is born slow, she's lion-food. If a lion cub is born weak, she's hyena-food. If an elephant calf is born sick, she's abandoned, and probably lion, hyena, leopard, or croc food. It's cruel, yet necessary to maintain the balance and respective species survival.
The only time and place we find imbalance is among humanity. We treat our sick, maintain our disabled, strengthen our weak. Our population is ever increasing, not (imo) because of any religious ambition, but because not enough people are dying! Then we impose our societies upon nature, cutting through habitats, picking and choosing which animals we kill and which we spare.
I'm starting to see the signs here in metropolis. I live in an urban area and for the first time in my life (during these past few years), I see hawks and turkey vultures circling the skies. I see deer running along highways - with no woods in sight. I even saw a bear this past summer!
I'm certain that the earth will bring balance back when it's necessary, and we're the culprit that needs to be "cleansed". It seems we're due for a very large-scale catastrophic event sun
Peace,
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Salaam
Tay I agree with your sentiments...us humans have imbalanced this planet. Agent Smith in the matrix summed up the human race by comparing it to the virus.
Going back to the original point of the article...should we be multiplying more frequently..the answer has to be no as the planets resources are finite and we are devouring them at such a rapid rate that there may be no planet left to dominate.
So increasing our reproduction may only hasten the dooms day scenario.
I dont think we fully understand the consequences of our action but they are probably lot worst than even some of the pessimists predict (just my opinon)I'm certain that the earth will bring balance back when it's necessary,
I sincerely hope so
and we're the culprit that needs to be "cleansed". It seems we're due for a very large-scale catastrophic event
Seems like prophecy However I hope there will be another way
regards
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Peace,
If an elephant calf is born sick, she's abandoned,
JK- Not always. Ive seen a documentary where the elephant calf had deformed legs but the parents helped it get straight until it could walk again. Animals do care for their young including elephants. There may be cases these are abandoned too just as vile humans abandon theirs. Yes natural catastrophes do balance out things but I dont think we should stop caring for humans. That is a silly idea if implied. Therefore we have developments in science which are all controled by GOD also. GOD Bless!
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Salam,
I must confess I do have give birth to 5 kids, 3 girls and 2 boys, should I be blamed now confused
I still do believe that all kids that are born is ment to be born by the will of God.
But if I was younger and will start to build a family I guess I had tried harder to avoid pregnancy(if that would have helped I doubt it!).
Peace Sis Majidah
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In many traditional societies, having abundance of kids mean good blessing. Why? Because the more kids u have, the more people u use to work on your fields without having to pay other people. Therefore, in today's world it is not irrelevant anymore so I believe every country in the world should have two kids policy in order to depopulate the world. Wait, except for the endangered aryan race (Blond hair, bright eyes) who are said will extinct in a few decades, lol Im just kidding.
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In many traditional societies, having abundance of kids mean good blessing. Why? Because the more kids u have, the more people u use to work on your fields without having to pay other people.
LOL haha yeahhhhhhhh
peace jankren
i know what u saying,and it doesnt only happen that way,our parents are not error-proof,they can be selfish too,and when they have kids they want them to be rich when they grow up because THEY want to live off some money of ours(if they idolize materialism).sex
baby
control over someone who knows nothing
feed him
send him to school
smack him in the head when he does something stupid
talk with relatives how good he issome people live this life,its easy to have a son like that,but 99% he will come out crooked
u can say they want our best,sometimes,but the pressure they put on yourself sometimes dont work,its even the opposite sometimes what happens.
i ask my mom why she had me,and she reply saying she wanted to be a mother,my dad said he wanted to have a family like his dad.
other people have other reasons,like a guy told me he wants to see how him and his wife's offspring's face would look like.
it should be to bring good people to the earth , like ibrahim and yaqub taught their sons to worship nothing but God and be good men.idolatry carries you towards great insanity.come on,it is a problem we can fix,i dont want to wait for a war or catastrophic natural events to wipe out the excesses,we can do better as humans.think as a whole.
peace all
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To think having more kids will make one's religion dominant is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. There's so many things wrong with that idea, I can't even begin to address it.
Actually Zenje it?s not as dumb as you think. O0
The only reason there are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world is because Muslim?s traditionally seem to have very large families. (And the practice of polygamy may also contribute to the large number of Muslims there are in the world).
And the reason Orthodox Jews tend to have large families is to make up for the number of Jews lost in the holocaust (well that?s what I read on wiki).
I couldn?t imagine having more then 2 children ~ having half a dozen kids is sheer hell. elektroOne thing that winds me up about people that have a ridiculous amount of children, is when they complain that they can?t look after them, and when you ask them why did they bother having so many in the first place they just say it?s Allah?s will and they were predestined to come. yeah whatever
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i ask my mom why she had me,and she reply saying she wanted to be a mother,my dad said he wanted to have a family like his dad.
other people have other reasons,like a guy told me he wants to see how him and his wife's offspring's face would look like.
it should be to bring good people to the earth , like ibrahim and yaqub taught their sons to worship nothing but God and be good men.idolatry carries you towards great insanity.i asked my mother. she was up front and respect her for the honesty. she said i was her mistake..
yea people do mistakes, they get unwanted syndroms like myself. i never lost the idea that i am born against my will. if i had the choice i'd want to be a wild cat... that is just my perspective since i am human and i don't know what a wild cat would want to be. i am not sure if that request is going to be accepted by Allah..why not make a soul then ask it, choose a body to fit in whether a human or an animal or a plant or jinn etc.. in the same keep the balance between each species...
-peace. use condoms...
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i asked my mother. she was up front and respect her for the honesty. she said i was her mistake..
yea people do mistakes, they get unwanted syndroms like myself. i never lost the idea that i am born against my will. if i had the choice i'd want to be a wild cat... that is just my perspective since i am human and i don't know what a wild cat would want to be. i am not sure if that request is going to be accepted by Allah..why not make a soul then ask it, choose a body to fit in whether a human or an animal or a plant or jinn etc.. in the same keep the balance between each species...
-peace. use condoms...
Oh dear, but don't see yourself as a mistake, even if she says so. Prove to her that you are something special and then she will be ashamed that she thought of u as a mistake.
Peace
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Peace,
well that is true, you'll should care well for a baby after give birth to it or leave it to someone who will care for it better than you.
NO, and Weinmar is not a mistake I cannot accept that, If we think negatively then things will be negative so please think positive.
Maria
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No denial!!!! But it's just that I can feel that you are not truly happy about it deep deep inside of you.
Yeah, I agree use condoms that's better than to have an unwanted child.
Maria
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No denial!!!! But it's just that I can feel that you are not truly happy about it deep deep inside of you.
Yeah, I agree use condoms that's better than to have an unwanted child.
Maria
Everyone would like to grow among unseparated parents. Otherwise the kid is a mess. Mom and Dad have different values.
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Peace,
hmm me and the father of my kids are divorced.
I hope my kids won't be a mess though '(
Maria
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Salaams all,
Allah says in 41 that He created countless men and woman. I think we can certainly count the number that are alive today, although obviously not throughout all time.
I personally don't think overpopulation is the problem, I think that is what the enemy of mankind wants us to think and gives seemingly logical reasons for it.
I think our inability to properly use space and resources are the reason that over population seems to be a problem. The earth is HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE with much more space and resources that we haven't even uncovered or discovered yet. Once we learn to live in peace and harmony and to preserve the planet, we will find that this earth can accomodate billions if not trillions of more humans on it, Allah willing.
Just my two cents. peace
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Peace IQO,
we will find that this earth can accomodate billions if not trillions of more humans on it, Allah willing
I pray this doesn't happen. It's hard enough as it is to find a little piece of nature that is devoid of human sound and garbage and mayhem. Very, very few civilizations know how to live in harmony with nature.
peace