Plan would add planets to solar system
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PRAGUE, Czech Republic - The universe really is expanding ? astronomers are proposing to rewrite the textbooks to say that our solar system has 12 planets rather than the nine memorized by generations of schoolchildren.
Much-maligned Pluto would remain a planet ? and its largest moon plus two other heavenly bodies would join Earth's neighborhood ? under a draft resolution to be formally presented Wednesday to the International Astronomical Union, the arbiter of what is and isn't a planet.
"Yes, Virginia, Pluto is a planet," quipped Richard Binzel, a professor of planetary science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
The proposal could change, however Binzel and the other nearly 2,500 astronomers from 75 nations meeting in Prague to hammer out a universal definition of a planet will hold two brainstorming sessions before they vote on the resolution next week. But the draft comes from the IAU's executive committee, which only submits recommendations likely to get two-thirds approval from the group.
Besides reaffirming the status of puny Pluto ? whose detractors insist it shouldn't be a planet at all ? the new lineup would include 2003 UB313, the farthest-known object in the solar system and nicknamed Xena; Pluto's largest moon, Charon; and the asteroid Ceres, which was a planet in the 1800s before it got demoted.
I wonder if there's a connection...124 When Joseph said to his father ?My father, I have seen eleven planets and the sun and the moon, I saw them submitting to me.?
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Whatever they come up with, it is certain that textbooks will be rewritten. bravo
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I think IAU have decided.
8 planets. Pluto is no longer a planet.
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Easy zenje.What comes first,reality or your criterion? If your criterion was proved wrong in reality would you be strong enough to admit the criterion was wrong,or would you still believe despite the disrepency with facts? Would you say 'allah/quran knows best,and so the science/apparent reality is wrong'? handshake
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Peace be with you enquirer,
or would you still believe despite the disrepency with facts?
Facts?... confused Tell me enquirer, was it "fact" when it was 9 planets until early 2005? Was it "fact" when it was 10 planets later on in the same year? So 2006 we're back to 8... is that fact now. Does your reality change every year or so?.. going backwards? Well, not for me thanks. -
Easy zenje. ok,so do you take the criterion over what you can see with your eyes,and understand with your mind?
Doesnt your reality change as you gain more age,knowledge and wisdom? Or do you still believe exactly the same things as when you were 17? -
Peace enquirer,
Easy zenje. ok,so do you take the criterion over what you can see with your eyes,and understand with your mind?
Yes. sunDoesnt your reality change as you gain more age,knowledge and wisdom?
Exactly my point, so don't call it "reality" and "fact" when it keeps changing, especially when it changes with what people "think" or "say" it is. handshakeOr do you still believe exactly the same things as when you were 17?
What I believe has definitely changed over the years (and still does), but guess what, the criterion hasn't. ;D -
Zen, us scientists are fine with changing 'truths', as in science all knowledge is relative, it gets improved as we advance further. Also, because nothing is sacred in science, then there are no penalties in changing anything.
So... how do you define 'planet', Zenje? I'm curious, because you don't accept IAU's.
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Peace Andya,
Zen, us scientists are fine with changing 'truths', as in science all knowledge is relative, it gets improved as we advance further. Also, because nothing is sacred in science, then there are no penalties in changing anything.
That's all well and good. The only problem I have, is with others expecting me to believe it as 100% truth/fact. As I said, we can change what we believe to be truth anytime, but the truth does not change. So believing there were 9 planets for all those years, was false. It may have been a convenient belief at the time, but it didn't last too long did it? So when we found the 10th planet, oh, what an exciting time, and then what happened. Now they have changed the meaning of 'planet'. Are we still supposed to rejoice that we've finally found the truth now?So... how do you define 'planet', Zenje? I'm curious, because you don't accept IAU's.
I don't have a definition, I never had one to begin with. I'm not the 'scientist' here, nor do I claim that I know it all. I only have what they tell me, to work with.Again, what God tells me, takes precedence over any human. ;D
Peace