Hi am new around here, if hadith are fake then Qu'ran can be fake too...
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You can be all things to all people.....You can even be a secular atheist muslim.....Like me....
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You can be all things to all people.....You can even be a secular atheist muslim.....Like me....
Don't take the piss. I am not here for games I am searching for something. Please don't take the piss or try to insult my intelligence. I believe In Allah and I believe in Mohamed as the final prophet. I have some issues with some hadith.
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Is that how muhammed would have responded to a genuine comment???? There are people who are atheist and/or secular and still call themselves muslims due to their cultural background.......Maybe you need to learn some islamic manners hey....????
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Is that how muhammed would have responded to a genuine comment???? There are people who are atheist and/or secular and still call themselves muslims due to their cultural background.......Maybe you need to learn some islamic manners hey....????
Well they should not call them selfs Muslims. Only those who submit to a god can call themselves a Muslim. A atheist doesn't believe in a god. And I also don't like secularism.
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Also can you actually reject all the hadith and still be a Muslim? as you're not following the Sunnah?
Peace
we are following the sunnah by following the Quran. There is an article about it here
http//www.free-minds.org/naveed.htm#Chap-4
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If a person want to call themselves a muslim,then who are you to say he /she cant?????? I can change my name by deed poll to 'muslim' and you cant do aught about it......
Anyway,radical sunnis say shiah arent muslims, some quran onlys say sunnis arent muslims,etc,etc,so im not really concerned what different groups regard as muslim or not......My background is muslim and no-one can change that...... elektro muscle muscle muscle handshake And anyway, i would rather be known as a humanist human being anyway......
ps; a lot of negative baggage with the title/word muslim nowadays... -
Salaams all,
Only those who submit to a god can call themselves a Muslim
How do you do this???
Nearly all here say the quran- the book isn't what it was and neither is the bible and neither anything else?!
And one guy i have heard mostly says submitting is simply Having faith in God and doing good is submitting - Mostly True.
So based on this submitting isn't tuff at all and okay and an easy thing to accomplish.
That has solved it for me ! I reckon.
Salaams.
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there is no such thing as an athiest muslim
if you don't like islam then walk away and don't have this fixation on changing it to fit your needs ... unless you really don't want to leave ...
what's a muslim culture anyways???
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Look mister,i can call myself what i want,i dont need to change the system known as islam because i dont believe in it,but my background is of muslim parentage,which you cannot change.....
ps; you folks either need to change/reform islam anyway because you cant even explain simple concepts like salat,and the terrorists/fundamentalists have hijacked a lot of islam anyway..... -
do you know what the arabic term "muslim" means in english? because this is just sounding really ignorant at this point
i'm tired of hearing about how less than 1% of the muslim population somehow "hijacked" islam. stop using these corporate news media mantras to march the world into believing there is justification for wars and "reforms".
osama bin laden is not my leader. in fact he most likely knows that he's a dog that will rot in hell. what does that say about the other 1.2 billion muslims? certainly not that their deen is "hijacked" that's such a pile of crap
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How many of those 1.3 billion muslims want or follow the sharia???? How many are in the closet and dont believe in their deen.....Remember there are also billions of christians who dont really follow christianity.....
Tell me worldwide,apart from muslims,who genuinely respects islam nowadays???? or are all non-muslims not worthy of an opinion on islam???
And apart from mr ladin,there are many many extremists to further decay the image of islam....
ps; you dont need reform,then whats this site debating about hadith,sunnah,prayer,alcohol and other such topics for?????
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Salaams enq,
Quran says
"As for those who divide their religion and break upinto sects, thou hast no part in them in the least their affair is with God He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did." (Quran 6/159)What are sects?
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YUSUFALI We did send messengers before thee amongst the religious sects of old
PICKTHAL We verily sent (messengers) before thee among the factions of the men of old.
SHAKIR And certainly We sent (messengers) before you among the nations of yore.
Religions are sects.So should we be having idolistic names like muslim, cristo'e jews e.t.c?
Salaams.
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Salaam simple,i dont quite understand your post,could you elaborate please?
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Salaams Br,
is it saying don't make groups-religions, those ayah's above?
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Maybe we should not divide/label humanity into groups and sects because that can lead to claims of superiority and conflicts,and maybe we should try to operate under certain universally acceptable laws like a large family of humans???
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lol Salam Cheema D
I mean you might aswell believe in pink flying unicorns.
I believe God is all powerful therefore I believe that God can create 'Pink Flying Unicorns'...
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Can god make himself not all-powerful?
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Well, to answer that question we'd have to contemplate the first bit 'Can God Make Himself', God's self?
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Dear Cheema, Assalamualykum.
I am not sure what exactly you are after. You attack the Koran and Islam like some impatient Christians or Jews of today. At the same time, on the other hand, you say that you are a believer in One God and the final prophethood of Muhammad. Forgive me, if anything of my sayings hurts you.
Most of the guys here do not adhere to Hadith. They try to follow the Quran alone. What is the problem with that? After all, they worship God alone and, as per my instinct, they are reasonably good in character and behavior. They have their own way of prayers and mediation for union with God. They do ruku, sizdah as mentioned in the Koran.
Some one may like them more than the stubborn and irrational Shias and Sunnis.
If you are a Sunni, you may try to understand their prime concern. It may help you revive true spirit of Islam within the fold of Sunni Islam.
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Look mister,i can call myself what i want,i dont need to change the system known as islam because i dont believe in it,but my background is of muslim parentage,which you cannot change.....
ps; you folks either need to change/reform islam anyway because you cant even explain simple concepts like salat,and the terrorists/fundamentalists have hijacked a lot of islam anyway.....Hay you can't call yourself a Muslim, you have no right. Why should you call yourself a Muslim if you class yourself atheist? No way. Who the hell are you more who thinks he can do this?