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The Stages of Creation & Evolution in the Quran

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    arnoldyasin
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    Please read my article on Jinn that also covers the story of Adam, it answers your above questions

    http//19.org/index.php?id=91,417,0,0,1,0

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      phoenix1
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      peace Arnold,
      I understand. Just one thing...

      There are a lot more forces in the Universe then just matter, the Quantum Field also decides on this. The internet is a poor resource for science Phoenix.

      I didn't use the internet this time! In fact, I've kind of lost my interest in science. I used to know a lot of stuff, but now I'm not too excited about new scientific discoveries and theories and stuff. Most of what I know about science comes from magazines like Discover and Popular Science.
      I read about the universe not contracting in TIME. I can't tell you how accurate that is, but I'll try to find you a link to a credible source.

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        nerspi
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        No, if you read carefully, the word doesn't appear in the Quran. The Quran talks about Adam and his spouse. And thus is a metaphor for Man and Woman in total. Adam were the first Homo Sapiens, Modern man and woman.

        The earlier species of man-apes from which modern man originated from do not fall under the term Adam, Intelligent man.

        so are you saying that qur'an supports the fact that adam came from a different species? apes or whatever?

        and if so, are we humans from today going to develope in different creatures in the next million years?

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          arnoldyasin
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          As far as my studies has showed me, yes definitely. The Quran says we developed out of lower species

          7114 Knowing that He has created you in successive stages.

          7117 And Allah has caused you to grow as a growth from the earth/as a (geneological) tree.

          And the Quran refers to further development, if this means us in this life or in the Next is what we need to find out ourselves....

          2920 Say, Travel in the earth and find out how He originated creation. And how afterward, Allah brings forth entirely new forms. Verily, Allah is the Designer of all things.

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            Angel
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            Peace be upon you,

            Do you also believe that we will also develop into more morally superior creatures?

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              nerspi
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              peace

              i think we'll at least develope into beings who use more then 10% of their brains.

              otherwise what's the point of our brain if we don't use all of it?

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                Saleh
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                "7189 (The Message encompasses life in its totality.) Recall that Allah created life from a single life cell, then made male and female cells, and then shaped you into human beings, males and females..... .?

                How did you arrive to this translation of the verse 7189?

                Thanks

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                  arnoldyasin
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                  Nafs has many meanings including 'Living Entity', to translate it with 'Cell' is logical and coincides with Science.

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                    Saleh
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                    Nafs has many meanings including 'Living Entity', to translate it with 'Cell' is logical and coincides with Science.

                    Yes I realize that. However, I can't see how the rest of the verse can be translated as " then made male and female cells, and then shaped you into human beings, males and females..... .
                    There are no mentions of male or female or shaping humans.

                    Also, while I am having a hard time fully understanding the verse in Arabic, the verse says that the the nafs and its partner asked god to be given something good so that they become thankful. I can't see how this can be applicable to cells.

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                      Andya_Primanda
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                      peace

                      i think we'll at least develope into beings who use more then 10% of their brains.

                      otherwise what's the point of our brain if we don't use all of it?

                      Btw, the 'we only use 10% of our brain' thing is a myth.

                      Brainscan studies show that every part of our brain has some kind of function... The brain is an expensive organ as it demands 20% of our energy intake, it would be a horrible waste if only 10% of it is working!

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                        nerspi
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                        peace

                        i know, but still, we don't use all of it, right

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                          arnoldyasin
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                          Btw, the 'we only use 10% of our brain' thing is a myth.

                          Brainscan studies show that every part of our brain has some kind of function... The brain is an expensive organ as it demands 20% of our energy intake, it would be a horrible waste if only 10% of it is working!

                          It is funny, the 10% use of the brain joke was made by Einstein during an interview. He made it as a joke, as the interviewer asked him why he was smart and if he was different from other people. He remarked, 'people only use 10% of their brain' to mean that he isn't special, all people have the same possibility if they want too.

                          Later on, this joke became an urban fact

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                            nerspi
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                            peace

                            so what are you saying, we do use 100% of our brain?

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                              Angel
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                              salaam,

                              It is funny, the 10% use of the brain joke was made by Einstein during an interview. He made it as a joke, as the interviewer asked him why he was smart and if he was different from other people. He remarked, 'people only use 10% of their brain' to mean that he isn't special, all people have the same possibility if they want too.

                              Later on, this joke became an urban fact

                              My teacher told me that we use less then 5% of our brains?.

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                                Tay
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                                Peace all,

                                I think, in general, we use very little of our brain capacity because in our daily routines, there is very little brain function required. And we become immersed in our routines, thus leaving the larger capacity untapped. This can be seen quite clearly in the special abilities of some autistic people.

                                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyDpOpzD-zc

                                Peace,
                                Tay

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                                  nadeem
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                                  http//www.infoplease.com/askeds/brain-usage-myth.html

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                                    Saleh
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                                    Yes I realize that. However, I can't see how the rest of the verse can be translated as " then made male and female cells, and then shaped you into human beings, males and females..... .?
                                    There are no mentions of male or female or shaping humans.

                                    Also, while I am having a hard time fully understanding the verse in Arabic, the verse says that the the nafs and its partner asked god to be given something good so that they become thankful. I can't see how this can be applicable to cells.

                                    I think my question got lost in the discussion. I am really interested in the answer.

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                                      arnoldyasin
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                                      Salaam Saleh,

                                      I already had said earlier that I use QXP, a Tasreef translation. Look my post up earlier in the thread.

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                                        jonny_k
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                                        Peace all,
                                        Once again there is a problem of understanding the meaing of the phrase "using only 10% of the brain". One can understand this as 1) we always use only particular 10% of the total brain regions in our lifetimes whilst the others always remain inactive or 2) we never use more than 10% of our brain AT ANY PARTICULAR TIME or 3) we never use more than 10% OF THE TOTAL STORAGE CAPACITY IN OUR BRAIN throughout our lives. So first youve got to define a little bit more precisely what you mean. I can say for sure tht point 1 is total nonsense. As for pt 2 im not sure and reg pt 3, yes i can agree with tht and i dont think anyone has ever exhausted his brain's storage capacity throughout his life. GOD Bless!

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                                          Saleh
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                                          Salaam Saleh,

                                          I already had said earlier that I use QXP, a Tasreef translation. Look my post up earlier in the thread.

                                          Peace Arnold,

                                          I consider myself really open minded, which makes me critical of almost anything I hear or read. I am also completely open to new interpretation of verses. That being said, I can't see how this verse can in anyway be translated the way you quoted it. I'd appreciate it if you can grab my hand and walk me through it slowly.

                                          Thanks

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