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The Salat and your motivations?

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  • WakasW Online
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    Wakas
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    peace weinmar,

    I have a problem executing the main command of God.

    Are you sure that's the main command?

    Recite that which has been revealed to you of the Book and uphold/establish the salat; surely the salat keeps (one) away from indecency and evil, and certainly the remembrance of Allah is the greatest, and Allah knows what you do.

    http//www.mypercept.co.uk/slw.htm

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      weinmar
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      i been told that the first thing God judge us for is the "salat". If a person didn't do it or missed out greatly then God won't even look at him and send him to burn .......etc.

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        arnoldyasin
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        Salaam Aleikum,

        Look at you? This is not the God of the Quran, but the God of mythology and folklore. What you say above have no basis at all when it come sto the Quran. Salat itself has many meanings, sometimes it is used for prayer, mostly for following the Laws of Allah as given in the Quran and Nature. There are some differences in understanding of prayer. I reccommend just to do what you feel best. I believe it is only given for congregations, and not for individuals, also it is completely false to believe salat can only mean prayer. But these you must investigate for yourself.

        Here is a Tasreef/crossreference on Salat, Wakas's crossreference is also good

        http//arnoldyasinmol.blogspot.com/

        First you must loose the idea of an angry dictator God, as this is not the God from the Quran. The Quran is here to guide us in making us into a perfect society, and not to show how to 'worship' God in the best way, this is a selfish God which has no basis in logic or Revelation.

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          Wakas
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          i been told that the first thing God judge us for is the "salat". If a person didn't do it or missed out greatly then God won't even look at him and send him to burn .......etc.

          I suggest reading al quran, to see what it says.

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            weinmar
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            Thanks for the information. i always try to improve my point of view to the best and do independent researsh and sometimes ask others opinion for improvements and broader thinking

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              alpha97
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              peace all,

              in short as i understand,

              What salaat is a composite spiritual practice! (meditate, prayer, rememberance, affirmation).
              This practice has been given to all religions. but each folk was given a suitable form.
              This practice can be done individually or in group formation.
              It is a holy gymnastic for our spiritual body.

              Function
              Connection of our awareness to higher self.
              Recollection of that which we alreay are. rememberance of LOVE for GOD. Opening of heart.
              Dehypnotizing of human consciousness. Reprogramming of subcosciousness.

              How
              Clearing the mind. Going into a meditative state.
              Confession en repentance of that which went wrong.
              Confession of your genuine need for guidance.
              Affiming the unity of existence and your role in it.
              Repeating of sacred and beautiful words till forgetting the sense of I , me en mine.

              peace,

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                weinmar
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                good call

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                  unknownuser
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                  Peace all,

                  While I agree that remembrance of The God is greatest as per 2945, salat is for The God's remembrance and thus very important obligation

                  2014 "I am God, there is no god but Me, so serve Me and uphold the salat/connection for My remembrance."

                  We can see in the above verse that the God is directly ordering to uphold the salat for His remembrance. Following verse tells us about the retribution for TURNING AWAY from The God's remembrance both in this life and on the Last Day, and salat is the way to TURN TOWARDS His remembrance.

                  20124 "And whoever turns away from My remembrance, then he will have a miserable life, and We will raise him blind on the Day of Resurrection."

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                    weinmar
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                    Thank you all

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                      FJ
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                      Function
                      Connection of our awareness to higher self.
                      Recollection of that which we alreay are. rememberance of LOVE for GOD. Opening of heart.
                      Dehypnotizing of human consciousness. Reprogramming of subcosciousness.

                      How
                      Clearing the mind. Going into a meditative state.
                      Confession en repentance of that which went wrong.
                      Confession of your genuine need for guidance.
                      Affiming the unity of existence and your role in it.
                      Repeating of sacred and beautiful words till forgetting the sense of I , me en mine.

                      peace,

                      Peace Alpha97, could you please elaborate a little more on that. Tell me please how do you go on clearing the mind... what do you do. If you don't mind please share with us the way you do it in a little more details.

                      Peace and blessings
                      FJ

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                        alpha97
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                        Peace FJ,
                        To grasp the whole thing deeply, i recommend this site strongly Listen to audios. Very rich.
                        http//www.spiritual-learning.com/audio.html

                        you could start with these audios to begin with
                        Attunement - Prayer - Tuning, purification, transmutation, and more - Intention, practices, concentrations, levels, and more.

                        we will talk more later!

                        peace

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                          weinmar
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                          Hello everyone,

                          Thank you all for the tips. I found out that i shouldn't do it just because i am told to. I begun to question and found out that i am a lazy person. Few exercises keep me alive. I want to just do some good to myself meditating. Its like yoga i guess. it helps calm and let the daily frustrations out.

                          Thank you all again

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                            FJ
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                            Peace

                            Thank you brother Alpha97, and thanks to all others for their inputs and ideas.

                            All praise be to God

                            FJ

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