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    Ghulam_Rasool
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    Assalamo alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

    This topic is about the Dabatul Ard (Beast of the Earth) mentioned in the Holy Quran And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), we shall produce from the earth a beast to (face) them He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs (2782)

    The saying of the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) "When three things appear faith will not benefit one who has not previously believed or has derived no good from his faith 1. the rising of the sun in its place of setting, 2. the Dajjal, and 3. the beast of the earth." (Sahih Muslim, Kitabul Imaan)

    So I would just like to ask what do others believe the significance of the Dabatul Ard (Beast of the Earth) is, as it is mentioned in the Holy Quran?

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      Yosemite
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      Will be hard for everyone to be able to speak that the beast. We don't know how many unjust there are on earth really.

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        unknownuser
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        PEace Be Upon You

        Wouldn't earth's creature be anything? It could be a person, environment, animal, element, ... so many "creatures" that could fall into this category

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          Ghulam_Rasool
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          Hadith make it clear that Dabatul Ard is a unique beast. But if you don't believe in that, then its open to interpretation. But I firmly believe in ahadith.

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            jonny_k
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            Peace "yusha",
            Please refer to my topic http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13428.0 where ive explained wht tht verse cld most likely apply to. GOD Bless!

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              This topic is about the Dabatul Ard (Beast of the Earth) mentioned in the Holy Quran And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), we shall produce from the earth a beast to (face) them He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs (2782)

              Salam all,

              I don't think the above verse really refers to an actual 'beast', like in an animal, it actually just refers to 'anger'.

              It's rootword 'dabba', meanings to go gently, crawl, walk, flow, throw.
              'Dabbatun' = whatsoever moves on earth, especially beasts of burden, moving creature, crawling creature.
              'Dabattul ard' = creature of earth, insect of earth, materialistic person whose endeavors are wholly directed to the acquisition of worldy riches and material comforts and who has fallen on the pleasures of this world with all his might and main.

              (Source Dictionary of the Holy Quran by Abdul Mannan Omar)

              Pay close attention to the translation 'beasts of burden'. What beasts of burden? Doesn't that refer to anger? Do we as muslims/submitters not need to follow the rules of the Almighty of peace, tranquillity and love? There are a lot of verses wherein the Almighty asks us to suppress our anger and other negative emotions.
              I think we therefore need to take the word 'beast' metaphorically.

              To me it seems that the Almighty, the producer of all emotions and all things, justifies those negative emotions only when we channel them in a just cause, such as the punishment of the evil-doers who don't seem to stop their negativity/injustice in the world; i.e. killing the peace.

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                amuslim
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                Peace

                Salam all,

                I don't think the above verse really refers to an actual 'beast', like in an animal, it actually just refers to 'anger'.

                It's rootword 'dabba', meanings to go gently, crawl, walk, flow, throw.
                'Dabbatun' = whatsoever moves on earth, especially beasts of burden, moving creature, crawling creature.
                'Dabattul ard' = creature of earth, insect of earth, materialistic person whose endeavors are wholly directed to the acquisition of worldy riches and material comforts and who has fallen on the pleasures of this world with all his might and main.

                (Source Dictionary of the Holy Quran by Abdul Mannan Omar)

                Pay close attention to the translation 'beasts of burden'. What beasts of burden? Doesn't that refer to anger? Do we as muslims/submitters not need to follow the rules of the Almighty of peace, tranquillity and love? There are a lot of verses wherein the Almighty asks us to suppress our anger and other negative emotions.
                I think we therefore need to take the word 'beast' metaphorically.

                To me it seems that the Almighty, the producer of all emotions and all things, justifies those negative emotions only when we channel them in a just cause, such as the punishment of the evil-doers who don't seem to stop their negativity/injustice in the world; i.e. killing the peace.

                So are you saying that it will be a new type of anger? From what the verse says, it seems like it will come out, meaning be brought into existence, where before, it wasnt.

                Peace

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                  Mazhar
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                  The point has been discussed here

                  http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/002.%20Meanings%20and%20Tabweeb%20of%20words/010.%20Dabatin%20Animals/10.%20Samaneta%20Azwaaj%208%20familes%20of%20mammals.htm

                  http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/003.%20Rashad%20Khalifa%20Intelectual%20deceit%20exposed/05.%20Very%20foundation%20ill%20conceived%20Dabatin.htm

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                    Heart
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                    Salam,

                    Peace

                    So are you saying that it will be a new type of anger? From what the verse says, it seems like it will come out, meaning be brought into existence, where before, it wasnt.

                    Peace

                    A 'new' type of anger? What's that? Anger is anger. Period.
                    Like I already stated in my above reply, anger has to be channelled in a just way. When do we let that 'beast' come out? When real human "beasts" (referring to agressive unjust people) don't give a crap about humanrights. I think it's very just to let your own 'beast' answer them in the same manner.

                    I remember a member here on the forum asking when we're allowed to use 'an-eye-for-an-eye-method' by the Almighty. I think when people have been giving many warnings and don't want to repent and show respect and love towards others we then can use that method to clean up our world.

                    Just sharing my thoughts. I ofcourse, as a lifelong student of the Almighty, could be wrong.

                    Ma'salama.

                    peace

                    Latifah

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                      Assalamo alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

                      This topic is about the Dabatul Ard (Beast of the Earth) mentioned in the Holy Quran And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), we shall produce from the earth a beast to (face) them He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs (2782)

                      The saying of the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) "When three things appear faith will not benefit one who has not previously believed or has derived no good from his faith 1. the rising of the sun in its place of setting, 2. the Dajjal, and 3. the beast of the earth." (Sahih Muslim, Kitabul Imaan)

                      So I would just like to ask what do others believe the significance of the Dabatul Ard (Beast of the Earth) is, as it is mentioned in the Holy Quran?

                      The Internet Relay Chat (IRC) was first deployed by Jarkko Oikarinen (possible GV = 223) at the end of August 1988 http//www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_irc.htm which was based on the talk program developed earlier.

                      Millions of people are now chatting online. They are talking to each other on the internet.

                      When the Word falls on them, We shall bring forth for them out of the earth a beast that shall speak unto them 'Mankind had no faith in Our signs.'

                      over it are nineteen.

                      The digits formed by the following

                      1. From verse 2783 to 1146 back to 11 to 2782 and 8 31 1988 is a multiple of 19
                      2. From verse 2783 to 1146 back to 11 to 2782 and 223 and 1988 is a multiple of 19
                      3. 223 and 1988, and verses 2782 to 7431 is a multiple of 19
                      4. 8 31 1988, and verses 2782 to 7431 is a multiple of 19
                      5. 223 and 1988, and verses 2782 to 1096 is a multiple of 19
                      6. 8 31 1988, and verses 2782 to 1096 is a multiple of 19

                      Hati

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                        Salam,

                        GV of 2782 = 6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650

                        Could be related to the invention of an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) by Jarkko (GV = 320020 = 223) Oikarinen (http//www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_irc.htm) where for the first time he launched the talker program at the end of August 1988. The cable used in internet is fiber optics made of silica http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_dioxide earthly materials.

                        GV of Internet Relay Chat (IRC) = 15040020050400 2003010 3400

                        1.1 The above GV and GV of IRC
                        "a beast that shall speak unto them "
                        4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 15040020050400
                        2003010 3400 = 19 x 217126579632210947579054231 863237052737107369475268600.0000

                        When the Word falls on them, We shall bring forth for them out of the earth a beast that shall speak unto them 'Mankind had no faith in Our signs.'
                        1.2 GV of 2782 and 8 31 1988 and 223
                        GV of Jarkko ? inventor of IRC = 320020 = 223
                        Software 1st launched on 8 31 1988

                        6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650 8 31 1988 223 = 19x 324737689510594789805633163442189484228954238969081079015852 673705273844238955270026400106055853212634217374242634244780 5894117.0000

                        1.3 GV of 2782 and 320020 and 8 31 1988
                        GV of Jarkko ? inventor of IRC = 320020 = 223
                        Software 1st launched on 8 31 1988

                        6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650 320020 8 31 1988 = 19 x 324737689510594789805633163442189484228954238969081079015852 673705273844238955270026400106055853212634217374242634244753 6853069052.0000

                        1.4 From verse 2783 to 1146 11 to 2782 and 223 and 1988

                        27 83 27 84 27 85 27 86 27 ... 27 79 27 80 27 81 27 82 223 1988 = 19 x 146488338308041 ... 49052.0000

                        1.5 From verse 2783 to 1146 11 to 2782 and 8 31 1988

                        27 83 27 84 27 ... 27 78 27 79 27 80 27 81 27 82 8 31 1988 =1 9 x 1464883383080413830909 ... 33069052.0000

                        hati

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                          Munzir
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                          Peace bro,
                          I'm sorry. I could not understand anything, maybe I'm not that good at Math. But what are all these numbers for?

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                            Hati
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                            Peace bro,
                            I'm sorry. I could not understand anything, maybe I'm not that good at Math. But what are all these numbers for?

                            Salam Munzir,

                            Sorry I have to email the complete file.

                            God bless you.

                            Hati

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                              softbird793
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                              Are you talking about me????

                              ??? sun

                              i am the creature . Free minds is the luckiest website in all world history to learn about it.now dont be that humble that you start laughing out loudly. some earthquakes coming up o my truthful humans.

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                                MUNZIR_ALI
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                                Peace bro,
                                I'm sorry. I could not understand anything, maybe I'm not that good at Math. But what are all these numbers for?

                                Me neither

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                                  Ahmad_Bilal
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                                  Peace,

                                  some earthquakes coming up o my truthful humans.

                                  Are you alleging that you can PREDICT earthquakes, or are you claiming that you CAUSE them?

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                                    afridi220
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                                    Peace,

                                    Are you alleging that you can PREDICT earthquakes, or are you claiming that you CAUSE them?

                                    Every one know that earthquakes are coming laugh

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                                      Bahman
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                                      Me neither

                                      Peace
                                      You should know GV and 28 Arabic letters to understand Hati's discovery

                                      Peace

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                                        Bahman
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                                        Peace bro,
                                        I'm sorry. I could not understand anything, maybe I'm not that good at Math. But what are all these numbers for?

                                        Peace.
                                        It is not math, it simple numbers from 1-9
                                        But you should know Geometrical Value ?GV? of 28 Arabic letters to understand Hati?s work.
                                        http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abjad_numerals
                                        I do my best to help you and others like you.
                                        your name in Arabic would be written Meem M Noon N Za z Ra R and their value would be
                                        Meem M =40 Noon N=50 Za Z=900 Ra R=200
                                        adding up those values would be 1190 but let us read your name digitally
                                        40 50 900 200 or
                                        4050900200
                                        Now let us check it if is multiple of 19
                                        =213205273.68421052631578947368421
                                        Is not as we have reminder (decimals) but even was I do not consider it Miracle but as support for believers. http//y19.net/miracle.html

                                        Now let us check Hati?s
                                        GV of 2782 = 6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650
                                        And now let us show each word next to their GVs
                                        GV of 2782 = 6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650
                                        I have missed this Hati?s work and in above I am just explaining his work more in detail for those that are interested.
                                        Hati now is working with English letters and using sources out of Quran. I am studying and thinking if I should accept such works when is out of Quran. But odd circumstances and probability for matching such already happened incidents can not be ignored.
                                        GW I do my own study and be back soon.
                                        Hope my post can help those that are new or do not know GV.
                                        Peace.
                                        B.Goharzad
                                        04/10/2009 102638 PM

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                                          Bahman
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                                          Peace
                                          You should know GV and 28 Arabic letters to understand Hati's discovery

                                          Peace

                                          Peace or just learn one letter Q and check this file. you can add it up without calculator. Only 57 Q but no human can imtate such text controlling number of Q in chapter with best composition and best meaning.
                                          Of course Ayman has claimed

                                          From a Code 19 point of view, what I produced is far better than Chapter 57. In fact it is far better than any chapter in the great reading. Even the simplest facts that I produced, for example 19 verses with 19 letters each are unmatched by any chapter in the great reading.

                                          )
                                          peace.

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