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    phoenix1
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    peace Alen,
    A theocracy is a religious government. The United Kingdom isn't really a kingdom, it's a democracy. The Queen has no power. In Iran, it's the Imams who make the laws based on religion (sharia), that is a democracy.

    I was told by my Iranian friend that if you're gay, they throw you off a mountain. Well, they leave the jews alone but if you're a muslim and gay, you're dead.

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      Elke
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      A theocracy is a religious government. The United Kingdom isn't really a kingdom, it's a democracy. The Queen has no power. In Iran, it's the Imams who make the laws based on religion (sharia), that is a democracy.

      hi lobby ;D

      i think you meant to say theocracy. Even though it's more of a theyRcrazy...

      peace lk

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        Angel
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        peace,

        can anyone give me examples of when the "Dhimmitude system" has been implemented in Islamic countries both past and present.

        Thanks

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          jankren
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          peace,

          can anyone give me examples of when the "Dhimmitude system" has been implemented in Islamic countries both past and present.

          Thanks

          I dont think dhimmitude exist anymore today. In the past it varied from place to place depending on the rulers and the political condition.

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            unknownuser
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            Yes, it still does in a mild form, Iran for instance.

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              Angel
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              many Muslim countries to some extent treat non-Muslim's unfairly. How does Iran treat it's non-muslim citizens OPF?


              I mean a full blown dhimmitude system where non-Muslim's have to pay higher taxes and are given an inferior status, can someone give me a few past examples of them?

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                unknownuser
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                No such thing is there?

                Iran is plastered over HRW

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                  Leoxyz
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                  Iran, Saudi, are about as Quranic as that which I transfer from my body to the toilet.

                  what a wonderful argumention from a Quranist.Really impressed.
                  1041
                  (1041) Doomed (to ruin) is every such person who slanders others (in their face) and backbites them habitually ,

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                    unknownuser
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                    what a wonderful argumention from a Quranist.Really impressed.
                    1041
                    (1041) Doomed (to ruin) is every such person who slanders others (in their face) and backbites them habitually ,

                    Of course it was crude (apologies for that), but they (their governments) are corrupted to the hilt. By the way, it wasn't an argument.

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                      amuslim
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                      Peace

                      Ive heard that Iran treats the Jews nice, even with the anti-Zionism that they promote. Theres even Jews there that support it. I read it on a Yahoo article and seen some vids on it. Iran doesnt have a problem with the Jews, just Zionism.

                      Peace

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                        Ghulam_Rasool
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                        No Muslim should have problem with jews, we only have a problem with the state of israel, which is promoted by irreligious "reform" jews. the orthodox jews want to mind their own business and go to their yeshivas in peace.

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                          Leoxyz
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                          Of course it was crude (apologies for that), but they (their governments) are corrupted to the hilt. By the way, it wasn't an argument.

                          Dear Brother

                          (16125) O Prophet invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and excellent admonition * and discuss things with people in the best manner. *
                          Best of luck

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                            I know how the Jews in Iran are treated. But I mean non-Muslim's in general, I was on another forum where an Iranian Christian said that he wanted to donate money to the far right in Israel (those freaks that openly declare that they want a genocide of the Palestinian people) because he hates Muslims because they breed like rabbits. I was just curios to see how the average non-Muslim in Iran is treated.

                            @ Yusha, although Zionism was originally a secular ideology nearly half of the worlds Orthodox Jews support Zionist Israel. Who cares about what the Jews support, our main problem is the American Evangelical nut jobs that fund them, without them Zionism would not be a serious problem.

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                              I know how the Jews in Iran are treated. But I mean non-Muslim's in general, I was on another forum where an Iranian Christian said that he wanted to donate money to the far right in Israel (those freaks that openly declare that they want a genocide of the Palestinian people) because he hates Muslims because they breed like rabbits. I was just curios to see how the average non-Muslim in Iran is treated.

                              @ Yusha, although Zionism was originally a secular ideology nearly half of the worlds Orthodox Jews support Zionist Israel. Who cares about what the Jews support, our main problem is the American Evangelical nut jobs that fund them, without them Zionism would not be a serious problem.

                              salaam

                              what about hindu

                              Members of India?s large Muslim minority often adopt Hindu names and dress styles in an attempt to avoid widespread prejudice that keeps them from housing and jobs, a Washington Times online report said on Tuesday.

                              Shaikh Salim, a Muslim who runs a food stall in the central office district of Calcutta, uses the common Hindu name Shankar Maity and calls his stall ?Shankar?s Fast Food?.

                              Shaokat Ali, a Muslim student who came to the city for a master?s degree in English, tutors Hindu students using the name Saikat Das and keeps a large picture of the Hindu goddess Kali hanging on a wall in his room. Jahanara Begum takes off a silver talisman embossed with ?Allah? in Arabic each morning, replacing it with a spot of vermilion powder on her forehead and red-and-white conch bangles of a married Hindu woman before heading to work in a fish market, where she is known as Parvati ? the name of a Hindu goddess.

                              Analysts say there could be thousands of Muslims in Calcutta who, like these three, are quietly hiding their religious identities in order to fit in, the newspaper reported. ?In everyday life, Muslims in almost all spheres of life face a communal discrimination by powerful Hindus, and they are denied many of their basic rights and freedom in an unjustified way,? said Anjan Basu, a veteran social analyst and executive editor of Pratidin, a Bengali newspaper in Calcutta.

                              Six decades after Pakistan was carved off from British-ruled India, many Hindus believe that Pakistan was created for Muslims and that is where they belong, said Basu, who is a Hindu.

                              He added that communal discrimination has been ?institutionalised?, with Muslims being denied employment in the government and even many private sector offices, where 90 percent to 95 percent of the jobs are held by Hindus. Many Muslims who adopted Hindu identities say they do not feel embarrassed because of their actions.

                              ?Fifteen years ago, when I came to Calcutta in search of a job, almost all street restaurants in the city refused to employ me because I was a Muslim,? said Salim. ?Some said their Hindu customers could refuse to eat at their shops if a Muslim worked there. But soon I met a Muslim man who worked as a cook in a Hindu-owned restaurant under a Hindu identity. I followed his advice, picked up a Hindu identity, and soon an upper-class Hindu employed me to run a food stall,? he added.

                              Nearly all of Salim?s customers are Hindus, and he fears his business would suffer disastrously if his customers found out he was a Muslim.

                              ?I know that hate Muslims simply because of their religion. So, I have done nothing wrong by lying about my religious identity,? he said.

                              Ali, the 24-year-old university student, is troubled by his decision to hide his faith but says he had little choice after 29 guesthouse owners refused to rent him a room because of his religion. He intends to drop the pretence as soon as his finances improve.

                              ?It pains me that I cannot tell people that I am a Muslim,? he said. ?I am restlessly waiting for the day when I shall be able to get out of this religious guise.? Some analysts worry that the deep-seated discrimination against Muslims could ultimately drive them to violence.

                              ?As Indian Muslims strongly feel they are being unjustifiably denied their share in developing India, their grievances could snowball into severe anger against the state and society, forcing many to resort to terrorism one day,? Basu said. But for the time being, the realities of the workplace mean that many Muslims will continue to hide their identities.

                              In the state of West Bengal, where the Islamic community makes up 27 percent of the population, Muslim employment in the government sector was less than 3 percent, according to a recent federally mandated study by former Judge Rajendra Sachar.

                              A federal minister acknowledged last week that Muslims have been victims of ?religious apartheid?, both in the government and in society at large.

                              Discrimination against Muslims ?is in the polity and the populace of the country. Worse, many of them have been implicated in fake charges of terrorism,? said Kapil Sibal, the minister of science and technology, who is a Hindu.

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