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Why no female messengers/prophets?

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    unknownuser
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    I believe the reason is blindingly obvious. Take this as you will

    Men are leaders. Throughout history, how many females have taken up leadership roles? Slim proportions. There might have been a female messenger or 5000, but are we in a position to a) know, and b) care?

    No.

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      Jack
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      Male domination......even god is referred to as He {/quote]

      The 'he' referring to God is not gender specific (in the arabic language) as far as i know

      Though they are not referred to as such, i would consider both mary and sheba messengers. Mary being an exemplary woman to follow and sheba originally an idolator seeing the signs converted

      The reason could be... as sad as it is .....'men' don't respond as well to 'women'..... its not God's law i don't believe but the way men/humans think

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        AaRoN
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        If women are not allowed to be messengers then why no explanation in the quran for this?

        um... do you go automatically from "i hear no mention of it" to "it must not be allowed" in every aspect of your life?

        And if women were messengers then why no mention of even ONE woman messenger in the quran?

        why no mention of chinese messengers? mexican messengers? inuit messengers?

        perhaps it has to do with the audience it was being delivered to, who knows... or as i said before, maybe it was purely so that this topic would be discussed on free-minds forum in a distant future.

        Surely women messengers would help to erase the misogyny and oppression women face in tribal society and religion?

        not all tribal societies treat their women with misogynist tendencies. maybe those societies received women messengers in the past then? or maybe women being treated with a misogynist mindset has very little to do with messengers and their gender at all (my vote is for this one)

        Surely women messengers would help women a great deal in their quest for human rights?

        messengers aren't about human rights, they are about spiritual quests

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          agentxxx
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          messengers aren't about human rights, they are about spiritual quests

          I believe they are about both.

          peace

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            agentxxx
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            peace all,

            I just saw the shameless list...its brickwall brickwall brickwall

            peace

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              weinmar
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              Peace Be Upon You All
              I know God does as He pleases. But why do you think that no women ever get that title? I guess the closest would be Mary but she was just the messenger of a messenger so to speak ... She has a pretty cool title though ... the best of all women

              but still ... anyone have a guess as to why?

              Women go through alot of change during their life. They grow young, they develope breasts and have monthly periors. They get pregnant and give birth. They have menopose and get c-r-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-z-a-y.

              Women are dumb by nature. Deal with it. If you think women should be smart might as compare my penis to my wife's. She will probably have a bigger one lol. Its a joke but... u get my point.

              Women should deal with their bodies and obey more than questioning the authority. It works that way and everyone is happy...

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                unknownuser
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                Women go through alot of change during their life. They grow young, they develope breasts and have monthly periors. They get pregnant and give birth. They have menopose and get c-r-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-z-a-y.

                Women are dumb by nature. Deal with it. If you think women should be smart might as compare my penis to my wife's. She will probably have a bigger one lol. Its a joke but... u get my point.

                Women should deal with their bodies and obey more than questioning the authority. It works that way and everyone is happy...

                Wow. Just wow.

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                  Jafar
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                  That depends on the definition of "messenger".

                  Remember also "another Miriam/Mary" in story of Moses's birth....
                  She's the one who saves baby Moses, and unite him with his mother..

                  ?She said, ?Shall I direct you to a household who will rear him for you, and look after him in a good manner???
                  (2812)

                  In a way, this Miriam sister of Moses was also God's messenger, delivering God's salvation to this baby Moses..

                  Salam

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                    Elke
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                    Women go through alot of change during their life. They grow young, they develope breasts and have monthly periors. They get pregnant and give birth. They have menopose and get c-r-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-z-a-y.

                    Women are dumb by nature. Deal with it. If you think women should be smart might as compare my penis to my wife's. She will probably have a bigger one lol. Its a joke but... u get my point.

                    Women should deal with their bodies and obey more than questioning the authority. It works that way and everyone is happy...

                    lol,
                    nice to know that we women grow young... it's a consolation
                    and men are just too dumb to deal with the women, talk about dumb and dumber, just joking though P

                    real authority, meaning coming from common sense and what is good for the majority, is less likely to be questioned, by it of male or female origin.

                    peace
                    lk

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                      maxq
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                      What reason?

                      I guess he means a woman would be a Prophetess not Prophet the same way a woman is a princess and not a prince...

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                        maxq
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                        4 words...

                        1. lot's
                        2. of
                        3. free
                        4. time

                        Well let me say this

                        If Samia agrees with a kafir like you who call himself Allah, accuse Allah of lying, says you know better than Allah, and the Quran is a book of non sense, then she is a clear cut hypocrite, I hope she is not, but I can't see here defending her religion against the non sense a kafir like you spew every day

                        You are a shame to this place and even shame to the kafirs, I have to add you to the shamless list of free islam, however I dont even want to waste the 3 minutes it will take me to do it with a clear cut enemy of Islam like you

                        Edit Finally done it The Shameless List Update

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                          Raj-ah
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                          ilke

                          Ahmed,

                          i just saw you shameless list.
                          You're really sick.

                          lk

                          What is harm in telling a person who is shameless that he or she is shame less?

                          I don't see any thing sick in it!

                          Right Carrot?

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                            Samia
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                            ilke
                            What is harm in telling a person who is shameless that he or she is shame less?

                            I don't see any thing sick in it!

                            Right Carrot?

                            You definitely don't understand Arabic, otherwise you wont say that.
                            And who is "Carrot"?

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                              Elke
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                              Hi rajah

                              have you seen only my post or the list ?

                              Must say though that if you had seen the list and thought it was "normal" i wouldn't be very much surprised.

                              lk

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                                Raj-ah
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                                Hi rajah

                                have you seen only my post or the list ?

                                Must say though that if you had seen the list and thought it was "normal" i wouldn't be very much surprised.

                                lk

                                Yes you should not be surprised, because it is normal.
                                If some one has the chracteristics of what the persons mentioned at Hall of shame pocess, What is harm in telling them?

                                Samia

                                What is harm in telling a person who is shameless that he or she is shame less?

                                I don't see any thing sick in it!

                                Right Carrot?

                                You definitely don't understand Arabic, otherwise you wont say that.
                                And who is "Carrot"?

                                What Arabic has to do with above quote of mine (
                                Carrot is vegetable I guess? I am not sure?
                                Is carrot mentioned in the Quran?

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                                  Samia
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                                  Samia
                                  What Arabic has to do with above quote of mine
                                  Carrot is vegetable I guess? I am not sure?
                                  Is carrot mentioned in the Quran?

                                  Not your quote, the list.
                                  And I did not write "Right Carrot?". You did, that's why I asked who Carrot was.

                                  So you think it is OK to call someone a "whore" because you disagree with them?
                                  And mind you, in Arabic this word is very, very, very rude, and as I said, only the lowest of the low would utter it. Mr. AB wrote it in transliteration, that's why I said maybe you do not know Arabic

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    Not your quote, the list.
                                    And I did not write "Right Carrot?". You did, that's why I asked who Carrot was.

                                    So you think it is OK to call someone a "whore" because you disagree with them?
                                    And mind you, in Arabic this word is very, very, very rude, and as I said, only the lowest of the low would utter it. Mr. AB wrote it in transliteration, that's why I said maybe you do not know Arabic

                                    I've seen a lot of Arab kids throw it around like nothing?

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                                      AaRoN
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                                      the best part is that if he called someone by that name he is thus accusing them of adultery, and unless he witnessed it he should avoid accusing others of it P

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                                        Samia
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                                        I've seen a lot of Arab kids throw it around like nothing?

                                        AB is a kid?

                                        the best part is that if he called someone by that name he is thus accusing them of adultery, and unless he witnessed it he should avoid accusing others of it P

                                        Unless he brings three more winesses he should be lashed 80 lashes!

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                                          ILisa
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                                          Well let me say this

                                          Edit Finally done it The Shameless List Update

                                          Sorry to butt in with this at this point in the thread, however, I must say, YUCK yuck This has revealed what caliber of a person you are Ahmed. My goodness! nope

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