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Can Someone Be Both Muslim & Christian???

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    unknownuser
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    I believe that one can remain both a Muslim & Christian simultaneously (a Mustian or a Chrislim - D), provided the pagan dogmatic rituals are feathered away. Janet Tu visions it differently and her thoughts are just temporal, though she feels its a good exercise to collaborate religions towards tranquility and togetherness. I've honestly tried that too long time ago, but never worked. Being a born Muslim, I've been several times to mandirs and churches for social-cum-religious ceremonies but never performed rituals nor forced into indoctrination yet remained humanistic.

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      Lost_Philosopher
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      Of course anyone can be whatever religion(s) they choose, its all perspective of the same things. Like God, Jesus, and prophets. I read this and her beliefs almost exactly match my own. I really want to talk with her. Im glad that people are starting to cross the boundires set up by needless fighting and mistrust so long ago.

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        phoenix1
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        If "muslim" means "peaceful" then yes, a muslim can be a christian. A mumin (believer) can't be.

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          Interesting story indeed. It reminds me of a Mongol king who went to a mosque and pray with Muslims on Fridays, and went to a synagogue to pray with Jews on Saturdays, and went to a church and pray with Christians on Sundays. The reason he was doing this was because he was not sure which religion was the truth so he just wanna be on the safe side. ;D

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            Lost_Philosopher
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            I like that King's thinking.

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              unknownuser
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              Interesting story indeed. It reminds me of a Mongol king who went to a mosque and pray with Muslims on Fridays, and went to a synagogue to pray with Jews on Saturdays, and went to a church and pray with Christians on Sundays. The reason he was doing this was because he was not sure which religion was the truth so he just wanna be on the safe side. ;D

              It's a good thing most of his subjects weren't Pastafarian.

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                If "muslim" means "peaceful" then yes, a muslim can be a christian. A mumin (believer) can't be.

                Im not sure I understand, I feel I can be a Mumin and a christian. What prevents a christian from believing in Islam and Christianity?

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                  unknownuser
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                  Im not sure I understand, I feel I can be a Mumin and a christian. What prevents a christian from believing in Islam and Christianity?

                  Islam is "Christianity", or I think it was called, "Wayism" and now "Unitary Christianity". If there is no setting up partners with God (i.e. trinity), there is nothing wrong.

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                    phoenix1
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                    peace LP,
                    You can be a believer and a christian as long as what you believe is true. Mumin are the believers in truth. So call yourself whatever you want, as long as you are following the truth, you'll be fine.

                    and setting up partners with god starts a lot smaller than trinity. It's when people ignore the truth, or the right thing, and follow their own desires, like Adam did. That's what leads to worshipping of stone idols and killing people etc.
                    And the story of Adam shows us that the states of muslim, mumin, kafir, etc are not concrete but most people are shifting constantly between one state of mind and another. Our goal is to stay in islam ALL the time. That's why the quran says "don't die except as muslim."

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                      Interesting story indeed. It reminds me of a Mongol king who went to a mosque and pray with Muslims on Fridays, and went to a synagogue to pray with Jews on Saturdays, and went to a church and pray with Christians on Sundays. The reason he was doing this was because he was not sure which religion was the truth so he just wanna be on the safe side. ;D

                      Nowadays, with the rise of sectarianism, the case for this Mongol King could be much more difficult. He have to prays with Sunni on one Friday and Shiah on the other, go to Catholic Church on one Sunday, JW Church on other, Protestant Church on other and so on.... D

                      Salam

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                        Jafar
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                        That's why the quran says "don't die except as muslim."

                        I have a different 'interpretation' regarding this one..
                        To me; it means when you are facing your death, don't resist instead surrender yourself to God (be muslim).

                        Salam

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                          Ghulam_Rasool
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                          The original Christians (i.e. the disciples of Jesus (alaihi salaam) and perhaps a few generations following them) were in fact Muslims.

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                            RiseUpMyPpl
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                            367 Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Nazarene, but he was a monotheist who submitted; he was not of those who set up partners.

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                              Jack
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                              with context

                              365 "O people of the Scripture, why do you debate us regarding Abraham when the Torah and the Injeel were not sent down except after him? Do you not understand?"
                              366 Here you have debated in what you knew; so why then do you debate in what you do not know? God knows while you do not know.
                              367 Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Nazarene, but he was a monotheist who submitted; he was not of those who set up partners.
                              368 The most legitimate people to Abraham are those who followed him; and this prophet, and those who believed; and God is the supporter of the believers.

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                                Alen
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                                Salam.

                                No.
                                You can't be a Muslim and a Christian at the same time, you're either one or the other, those are the rules we took, you either follow them or you don't.
                                Muslims know the Truth about Jesus and The Exalted God while Christians don't and that is the main reason why one cannot be both at the same time.

                                Peace.

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                                  Jack
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                                  salam alen

                                  we are not talking about traditional muslims and traditional christians

                                  there are obscure sects in christianity that can be muslim

                                  for example the unitarian sect, i've met a few (emphasis on few ;D) christians who reject the trinity, and believe jesus just to be a man/prophet thats very 'muslim' if you ask me. Muslim is a description not a name anyone can call themselves and they magically become a 'muslim'.

                                  4213 He has decreed for you the same system (deen) He ordained for Noah, and what We inspired to you (Muhammad), and what We ordained for Abraham, Moses, and Jesus "You shall uphold this system, and do not divide in it." Intolerable for those who have set up partners is what you invite them towards. God chooses for Himself whomever He wills; He guides to Himself those who repent.

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                                    Peace all,

                                    1. And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our Allah and your Allah is One, and unto Him we surrender.

                                    peace

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                                      Lost_Philosopher
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                                      Salam.

                                      No.
                                      You can't be a Muslim and a Christian at the same time, you're either one or the other, those are the rules we took, you either follow them or you don't.
                                      Muslims know the Truth about Jesus and The Exalted God while Christians don't and that is the main reason why one cannot be both at the same time.

                                      Peace.

                                      So, which am I? I claim to be Christian and Muslim.

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                                        harryandlouise
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                                        Q&A The Rev. Ann Holmes Redding, an Episcopal priest who says she's both Christian and Muslim, answered questions from readers today.

                                        Click below for an interesting read ....

                                        http//community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/reader_feedback/reader_feedback.php?id=171

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                                          Elke
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                                          Peace all,

                                          personnally i now see "muslim" as a state of mind that only god can judge.
                                          So can you be christian and muslim at the same time ?
                                          Yes, some christians can.

                                          lk

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