Interesting post regarding Bukhari & Mushrik
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Satan rests at night in your noses (Bukhari, Beginning of Creation 2241).
And that is why you should not pick your nose at night while in bed. You may pluck out Satan along with the goobers.Rofl D
That glorious hadith is metaphorical not literal! Only jealous people dont see wisdom in hadith.
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Oh, i see. Satan is a metaphore for goobers.
Perhaps that's why they include the nose washing in the 'wusu'. And wash the ears or around them...I think there's a hadith that says satan urinates in people's ears. Possibly connected? I bet the sunnis I know would believe it if I told them that was the reason P
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I thought perhaps a sunni/shia here would give a sensible answer to defend any of those sayings attributed to our great prophet, but realistically there is no way a sane person can defend such ridiculously false hadith.
Then there is no point for this insane person, yours truly, to respond. If there is no respect, then there is no point in dialogue. When you open your mind to other possibilities, then may be you can learn something from this insane person.
With respect.
Hussein
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Then there is no point for this insane person, yours truly, to respond. If there is no respect, then there is no point in dialogue. When you open your mind to other possibilities, then may be you can learn something from this insane person.
With respect.
Hussein
Peace Hussein,
Here?s a better explanation on the dog woman donkey hadith?
http//answering-islam.com/karim/islamic_prayers_and_women.htm
Most are an embarrassment, require explanations for which many there are none; many lack logic, decency, and contradict Qur?an.
Why not present your evidence instead running away keeping it ?a secret? presuming we?ll learn something except perhaps the obvious like in this pointless example a few distractions while praying.
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Salaam Hussein,
Salaam Ade,
This would be the reasoning that Imam Shafii used. Reasonable. However, if there was no occasion to stone, then the prophet did not go about announcing this is abrogated or this is not. Abrogation is generally deduced from his practice. There were no cases of adultery and no punishment happened. It leaves the judgement open.Previously, you quoted scholars and gave explanations regarding the hadith under discussion as below
"So, Umar could have added it easily, if he or Uthman wanted to. However, they did not because it was abrogated by decree and not by being lost. This is acording to scholars."
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14899.msg139480#msg139480
Now, after I point out the difficulties to accept your explanation of stoning, you say that the prophet did not explain anything whether these quranic verses have been abrogated or not, and which quranic verses abrogate which quranic verses. If the prophet didn't say anything then
- How do we know which quranic verses have been abrogated?
- If they have been abrogated, why are they still in quran?
OK, the above two questions are about abrogation of quranic verses in general now let's back to "quranic" verse for stoning. Pay attention to your previous explanation that I bold. Now explain to me
- Whose decree used which Umar followed so he did not add "stoning verse of quran"? For sure, it must have been other than prophet's decree since the prophet didn't explain anything! So, whose decree?
Now, if you have something in the Qur'an that clearly tells you not to do it, then you will have a point. There is nothing in the Qur'an that tells you, clearly and unambiguously, not to stone.
241 A sura which We have sent down and which We have ordained in it have We sent down Clear Signs, in order that ye may receive admonition.
242 The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
243 Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry and but a woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman to the Believers such a thing is forbidden.From verses 241-3, it is clear and plain how Allah has set His laws. In 241, Allah says that in Sura 24 He sent down CLEAR VERSES. We continue to read and we come at 242 in which Allah sets His laws to flog adulterers. If verse 242 is not clear and plain enough, I think there are some seals which make it not clear and plain enough (these seals must be hearsays and conjectures collected by Bukhari). We continue to read further 243. From there it is also clear and plain that we are commanded to keep track of those adulterers. We record their identities and whenever they want to marry we have to check their records. It is Allah's laws that adulterers can still marry (read can continue to live) and it is also Allah's laws that although they still have the right to marry (read can continue to live), they have limitations whom they can marry. By stoning adulterers, we deviate from Allah's laws because we take their rights to continue to live.
Now I would like to add other verses that prove stoning adulterers are clear deviations from Islam.
2568 Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment
2569 (But) the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to him, and he will dwell therein in ignominy,
2570 Unless he repents, believes, and works righteous deeds, for Allah will change the evil of such persons into good, and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most MercifulSee, that is exactly what the prophet explained to his companions that those who commit fornication they will have painful retribution. But if they repent and do righteous deeds, Allah is oft-forgiving. Dead people can no longer do righteous deeds.
Wow, So, I said that, but I did not say that this is what needs to happen all the time. In fact, in another response I elaborated further that the general rule is flogging, but the general rule accepts particular exceptions. Your statement is only correct when the particualr exceptions of stoning become the absolute and no Sunni ever claimed that.
Read above.
Does not work. We inherit many rules from the Israelites with some modifications and the stoning rule is in that category. The Qur'an does not say this is rule for Jew and this is rule for Gentile.
You fail to get my point. I was not talking about jews practicing stoning or not. I was saying that the prophet was gentile and since he was gentile, he would not command people to stone adulterers claiming it is God's command. And after the prophet became the prophet, i.e. received revelations, he will surely explain quranic teachings. He will teach as per quranic teachings that adulterers can repent and do righteous deeds (2568-70). He will also explain it is God's laws to flog adulterers and maintain their records afterwards (241-3). Last but not least, he will also invite jews, christians, and gentile folks at that time to follow quranic teachings.
Another attempt at limiting the Qur'an where there is no limitation. The Ayat of Allah are in the Qur'an and in the other books. The statement of 2106 does not differentiate whether it is here or there. It applies to all. Your insistance on not applying to the Qur'an is not supported by the text, no matter how much you like to believe it.
The verses that are abrogated cannot be quranic verses. If quran abrogated quran, then we will really have big big big problems for we will argue which quranic verses abrogate which!
OK, this is my general comments regarding abrogation of quranic verses, now let us focus on 2106.
Have you read 2105-108 as I suggested previously? If not then let us see.
2105 It is never the wish of those without Faith among the People of the Book, nor of the Pagans, that anything good should come down to you from your Lord. But Allah will choose for His special Mercy whom He will - for Allah is Lord of grace abounding.
2106 None of Our ayats do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?
2107 Knowest thou not that to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth? And besides Him ye have neither patron nor helper.
2108 Would ye question your Messenger as Moses was questioned of old? but whoever changeth from Faith to Unbelief, Hath strayed without doubt from the even way.The key verse to understand the ayats mentioned in 2106 is 2108. The ayats are not quranic ayats. The ayats have something to do with the ayats Moses being questioned. If we cross reference, we can see for example
17101 To Moses We did give Nine Clear Ayats As the Children of Israel when he came to them, Pharaoh said to him "O Moses! I consider thee, indeed, to have been worked upon by sorcery!
God explains lots of things in that Aya. If that Aya was actually abrogated, then the Aya applies to it. If you want to insist that the Aya was never there, then you have to prove it with factual data and not emotional data.
I already give explanations why I don't buy the idea of abrogation of quranic verses. Read again my previous post. I repeat a bit here
- Stoning is still being practiced by sunni and shia up until now => so in 2106 God must be talking about something else and NOT quranic stoning ayat
- The verse of stoning has not been forgotten (thanks to Bukhari who preserved the ayat that God already abrogated and made forgotten!) => so again in 2106 God must be talking about something else and NOT quranic stoning ayat
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So what is interesting about this Hadith, dear carrot, which amazes you? along with the commentary.
Dear CArrot, You like writer of this article are having some serious mental disorders and hatred for the Prophet has taken you to the darkness from where it is hard to return.
Read it, it says;
Ayesha said
The things were mentioned before me meaning to say SOME ONE MENTIONED the things which annul the prayer to Ayeasha.
THEY SAID meaning to say those who were asking the question to Ayeasha those SOME ONE mentioned, DOG, WOMEN, and DONKEY.
Ayesha got angry and said ARE YOU COMPARING US (WOMEN) with DOGS?
Instead she quoted the action of Prophet Muhammad that "Prophet prayed even if Ayesha was lying between him and Qibla" NOW YOU BRAINWASHED friends this is the HADITH, this is the action of Prophet that he does not mind even if a women (his wife) is between him and Qibla during his prayers.So how could you or this mentally retarted writer of the article claim that WOMEN are compared to DOGS in this HADITH.
Shame on the LIARS.
The quoted hadith itself doesn't say women are compared to dogs ...The thing is there are people at that time who fabricate hadiths and attributed them to the prophet. Later, their fabrications reached Aisha and Aisha got angry.
A hadith in the sixth volume of Imam Ahmad ibn Hambal
"Abu-Hassan reports that two people came to A?ishah and said to her that Abu Hurayrah narrates that the Prophet used to say that bad luck is to be
found only in women, horses and houses. At this A?ishah replied By the God who revealed the Qur?an to the Prophet! The Prophet never said this; what he did say was that the People of the Jahilliyyah hold this opinion?"I quote from page 16 (when viewed with adobe reader) of a book by brother Akbarally Meherally.
http//www.mostmerciful.com/hadith-book1.pdf
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ROFL, Aisha exposes Abu Hyrayrah as a liar. Quite a sharp wit, that Aisha.
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No, no...you guys don't understand. Abu Hurayrah was never the liar, it was all these mysterious sources you see, who told him these lies. Even when they'd been exposed as false statements, they were still recorded for posterity, in all their wisdom, for all to see.
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Salaam all,
I actually follow Wakas' advice in not discussing things when one is bombarded with a long list of things to address. It is of polemical nature and should not be addressed except when there is benefit involved.
Also, Ade, great, we keep on going in circles. One of us or both of us are either not understanding what the other is saying or totally missing it or totally discarding it. In case like this, we move on. I am not convinced by your convoluted reasonings which are becoming repetitious and you are not convinced by mine. Good, end of story and may God guide us both.
Returning to those hadeeths, some of them were addressed in a previous post of mine regarding the fly, the dog and so forth. Some of you may look up my posts and you will find them. I will touch on a few
1- Hadeeths of sex with the wives except one. It is touched on in the Qur'an about treating his wives equally. One has to look at other hadeeths to give a better picture. The wife in question was one where the prophet did not desire to have sex with her anymore. So, he went to her and gave her the option of divorce and therefore she would become free to marry another man. The woman then said, no I would rather stay married to you even without sex. There are several lessons in it regarding obligations of man to woman and to equality between women when one is married to several.
2- The hadeeths that talk about sex with all the women in one night and all the issues of sex and so forth. The lessons that you get out of them is that a man who is married to more than one woman will have to either have sex with them equally either in one night or divided by night. There is also the lesson that sex and marriage are part of the spirituality of the human being, rather than the prudishness that the writer exhibits. Avoiding sex and marriage is not a path to spiritual purity. Also, no one understands any of those hadeeths as an invitation to multiple marriages. That understanding of the author of the article is immature.
3- The hadeeth of selling the slave has to be looked at in contrast to many hadeeths of giving them freedom. The author of the article, in his either dishonest or ignarant fashion, removed part of the hadeeth. The hadeeth starts with a man who has nothing but that slave, gave the slave his freedom and therefore ended up with nothing. The prophet said that no, I will sell for you what you had and give you money to spend. It is a lesson that a person has to be realistic in what he or she does. It also falls under "Do not spend too much" as mentioned in the Qur'an.
4- Hadeeth of sexual play with the menstruating woman means that you can have sexual play but not sex.
5- Hadeeth of the headache means that he played with his wife in playing with each other with words.
And so on and so forth. You guys can read explanations for things but you have no desire. You can stay the way you are until you meet your creator, lost in ignorance and arrogance with no path to follow as long as you do not know how to pray, do hajj, and do Zakat and fast in the middle of summer heat when the moon is full. May He have mercy on us all.
Hussein
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Peace Hussein,
If you need more time to think, just tell ...
If you cannot answer the contradictions, just tell ...
If you don't understand why your explanations are inconceivable, just ask and I will explain (maybe I am not articulate but I will try) ...But if you don't give answer, then please don't pretend as if you had answered ...
I repeat again what I already posted so that you can see clearly ...The thing is if we only read your explanations partially, then each seems to be defendable on its own but once we put them together we can see clearly that they are really inconceivable ...
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"So, Umar could have added it easily, if he or Uthman wanted to. However, they did not because it was abrogated by decree and not by being lost. This is acording to scholars."
My question Whose decree followed by Umar so he did not add the stoning verse to quran?
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Salaam Ade,
Ok, now that you make a short sentence we can talk.
1- I did in one of my previous posts mention a certain weakness in that hadeeth and whether Omar said it or not. You can refer to it. the point again is that only two people narrated this hadeeth from Omar, while it was a speech. This puts a question that may weaken this hadeeth because you would expect more people to narrate from a speech.
2- However, the answer to your question is in the hadeeth itself.
Malik related to me that Yahya ibn Said heard Said ibn al-Musayyab say, "When Umar ibn al-Khattab came from Mina, he made his camel kneel at al-Abtah, and then he gathered a pile of small stones and cast his cloak over them and dropped to the ground. Then he raised his hands to the sky and said, 'O Allah! I have become old and my strength has weakened. My flock is scattered. Take me to You with nothing missed out and without having neglected anything.' Then he went to Madina and addressed the people. He said, 'People! Sunan have been laid down for you. Obligations have been placed upon you. You have been left with a clear way unless you lead people astray right and left.' He struck one of his hands on the other and then said, 'Take care lest you destroy the ayat of stoning so that one will say, "We do not find two hadds in the Book of Allah." The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, stoned, so we have stoned. By He in Whose Hand my self is, had it not been that people would say that Umar ibn al-Khattab has added to the Book of Allah ta-ala, we would have written it, "The full-grown man and the full-grown woman, stone them absolutely." We have certainly recited that.'"
Her are the statements about the abrogation
1- This suggests that the Aya was not forgotten and that others knew it. At his time, for something to be considered Qur'an, then it needed to be memorized by a critical mass of people and this critical mass seem to be suggested in this speech.2- The statement of "People will say Omar added to the book of Allah" gives the impression that Omar acknowledged that those Ayat are not anymore in the book nor should they be. Since forgetting is not an option, then the only way for him to state that he cannot add to the book is through acknowledging some form of decree or obligation, although not mentioned directly in the text of the hadeeth.
The statement of the practice and whether it is abrogated or not
3- The statement of the "the prophet stoned and we stoned after him". This suggests that Omar and others understood that the abrogation of the Aya does not abrogate the ruling. However, it does not exclude that the ruling was abrogated. Omar does not say that the prophet continued to stone after the abrogation of the text, nor say that the prophet ordered us to continue. That part is then left to the conclusion of those who read and analyze the hadeeth.Most of those who analyzed the hadeeth concluded that there was no abrogation for the ruling. This still does not make that conclusion the correct one and it can be challenged by others because the text allows it.
However, this is one of the hadeeths about stoning. It is not the strongest and the supporters of stoning will not fight for it, but for others.
Take care and have a great day.
Hussein
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Twilight
Can you please explain all the hadith (especially those referring to women) that were listed on that page? If you will, explain how they are relevant to understanding the Quran. I'm asking in seriousness, I'd like to know what these hadith mean according to Sunnis. Thanks.
First as said by some one, the best way is to read it by yourself and analyse it but without any bias, on merit,
keeping the following two points in mind
that
a) Hadith is a divine revelation, and there can be no mistake in it as portrayed by SOME Orthodox MULLAHS.
b) Hadith is a trash and all the Muslim writers are untrustable as protrayed by some Ultra Moderen Mullahs.are both False.
Second I will try to explain these HAdiths by a Muslim's point of view as I am a Muslim and not a Sunni.
Hadith regarding women compared to dog and Stoning had been discussed and LIARS have been exposed, let us move on further.
The Prophet said, ?Bad luck, misfortune and doom can exist in a wife, a home and a horse? (Bukhari, Book of Nikah 360).
the Hadith mentioned above has come in most of the major books of Hadith in the words near to the ones quoted here. However, the following text of it contained in the sixth volume of Imam Ahmad Ibn Hambal?s Musnad presents the true picture in this regard
Abu-Hassan reports that two people came to Ayesha and said to her that Abu Hurayrah narrates that the Prophet used to say that bad luck is to be found only in women, horses and houses. At this Ayeshah replied By the God who revealed the Qur?an to the Prophet! The Prophet never said this; what he did say was that the People of the Jahilliyyah hold this opinion?
It is evident from this text of the Hadith that this saying has been erroneously attributed to the Prophet. He had actually quoted the views held by the people of Jahilliyyah (age of ignorance).As I said earlier that Hadith is work of man and thus can contain error, therefore Bukhari made a mistake here.
We will try to study all other Hadith mentioned in that article if the time permits.
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As I said earlier that Hadith is work of man and thus can contain error, therefore Bukhari made a mistake here.
We will try to study all other Hadith mentioned in that article if the time permits.
Raj-ah
If the narration of ibn Hambal is authentic, this means one of two things
-Bukhari did not put enough effort to make sure that such a controversial, non qur'aanic hadith was really said by the prophet, an effort made by Ibn Hambal (Died 241 AH) A.H.) who was born more than seventy years after Bukhari. This means that this hadith was not a rare one. Its propagation all these years after Bukhari's death (165 A.H) also means that people did not give any weight to what Bukhari wrote. I would hardly call him a scholar with all titles attributed to him, or even a researcher. I would even take the info of his efforts to collect hadiths with a pinch of salt
-Bukhari had knowledge of the complete hadith and preferred not to include it. In this case he is not to be trusted in anyway
Otherwise
-Ibn Hambal invented the extra part because he found the hadith unacceptable and impossible to be uttered by the prophet, so he imagined that part of it must have been missed. He should have just rejected in.
Both narrators cannot be correct. Yet, the "untruthfulness" of Ibn Hambal is a noble one, while the error of Bukhari is unacceptable and reflects his true credibility.
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salaam Hussein
1- Hadeeths of sex with the wives except one. It is touched on in the Qur'an about treating his wives equally. One has to look at other hadeeths to give a better picture. The wife in question was one where the prophet did not desire to have sex with her anymore. So, he went to her and gave her the option of divorce and therefore she would become free to marry another man. The woman then said, no I would rather stay married to you even without sex. There are several lessons in it regarding obligations of man to woman and to equality between women when one is married to several.
Just one thing i do not understand. prophets wife is not supposed to marry other man after prophet as far as i know. sorry if it's something i should have understood by reading the whole thread, please explain
lk
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salaam Hussein
Just one thing i do not understand. prophets wife is not supposed to marry other man after prophet as far as i know. sorry if it's something i should have understood by reading the whole thread, please explain
lk
Salaam Elke
They always have the answer The hadith was before the verse was revealed, in which wives of the prophet were declared mothers of the believers.
I just don't undertsand why hadiths before some verses are even included. What are we to learn from it?
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Salaam all, Samia, Elke,
If the narration of ibn Hambal is authentic, this means one of two things
-Bukhari did not put enough effort to make sure that such a controversial, non qur'aanic hadith was really said by the prophet, an effort made by Ibn Hambal (Died 241 AH) A.H.) who was born more than seventy years after Bukhari. This means that this hadith was not a rare one. Its propagation all these years after Bukhari's death (165 A.H) also means that people did not give any weight to what Bukhari wrote. I would hardly call him a scholar with all titles attributed to him, or even a researcher. I would even take the info of his efforts to collect hadiths with a pinch of salt
Well your post is going to backfire on you for you are either ignorant or you are not ignorant but aiming to mislead. Imam Ahmad was born in 164 hijri and died in 241 hijri. Bukhari was born 192 hijri and died 256 Hijri. So, no Imam Ahmad narrated the hadeeth of Aisha probably either before Bukhari was born or when he was a child.
-Bukhari had knowledge of the complete hadith and preferred not to include it. In this case he is not to be trusted in anyway
Bukhari had a methodology. He would not narrate a hadeeth when he had no evidence that the narrators met each other. In the case of the Hadeeth of Aisha, there was no evidence to Bukhari that the person who narrated from her actually met her, and it makes it a weaker hadeeth.
This point means that some hadeeths that are deemed weak can have a place in the understanding of the message.
Otherwise
-Ibn Hambal invented the extra part because he found the hadith unacceptable and impossible to be uttered by the prophet, so he imagined that part of it must have been missed. He should have just rejected in.
Ibn Hanbal's methodology was to collect any reported hadeeth as long as he was not aware that any of the narrators was a lier or a person with very poor memory. for that, he ended up with the biggest collection of the hadeeths, but with varying strengths.
The hadeeth of Aisha is her elaboration on another hadeeth mentioned by Abu Hurairah. They are not one hadeeth but two.
Both narrators cannot be correct. Yet, the "untruthfulness" of Ibn Hambal is a noble one, while the error of Bukhari is unacceptable and reflects his true credibility.
Actually they can. This is also the understanding of the scholars of the hadeeth that wrote the commentary on Bukhari. They mentioned the Aishah Hadeeth and mentioned it as a potential explanation of it and probably the better explanation. The prophet may have said something in one occasion and another in another occasion that explains the first. So, having two explanations is not mutually exclusive. Also, Aisha was not with the prophet all the time, so she cannot completely say he did not say. All that she can say is that I did not hear him.
They also mentioned that the longer version of the hadeeth mentioned a prohibition from such things and then had the bad omens mentioned, the woman ,the horse and the house. Those three are indispensable issues. They explained that even though the prophet prohibited bad omens, those three are indispensable and a person may not be able to avoid the bad thoughts. In this case it may be better for the man to leave either of the three or otherwise, he will go crazy. This means that the same rule applies to the woman who gets a bad omen from her husband and cannot get it out of her mind, then she can leave her husband. So, this alternative explanation does not contradict Aisha's, but takes in consideration the reality of the human mind. Islam is about realism and not idealism.
Elke, God does change His laws. You can actually read the Qur'an and you will see those laws that changed.
Take care all
Hussein
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Bukhari is the shameless person
Ghalta Bukhari
Most of the references given here belong to Bukhari published by Madina
Publishing Company, Karachi, 1982, Printer Hamid & Co. The translator is
"Maulana" Abdul Hakim Khan Shahjahan Puri.
At the outset, please know that a great scholar of Islam, Ubaidullah Sindhi
concedes, "I cannot teach Bukhari hadith to any youngster, or to a
non-Muslim
because of shame" (Preface to Ilham-ur-Rahman). Let's explore why he said
this...
Mahmood bin Rabe narrates, "I still remember when I was five years old, the
Holy Prophet rinsed his mouth and then poured the water into mine" (Kitabul
Ilm vol.2, hadith 77). Could the Exalted Prophet hold any human being at
that
level of inferiority?
Kitabul Ilm ahadith 91, 92, 93 states The Prophet's cheeks turned red, his
face became red with anger . . . and so on. This statement is absolutely at
variance with the Prophet's character, and appears to have been fabricated
to
defame him. This is only one of the hundreds of such narratives that
portray
him to be a man of temper. The Holy Prophet, in fact, was a cool-minded
person
with exceptional self-control.
Prophet Solomon boasted that he would impregnate one hundred women in one
night, but only one woman became pregnant and gave birth to a half-formed
child (Bukhari, Book of Nikah 3110). This tragedy is reported elsewhere to
have occurred because Solomon did not say "Insha-Allah" before going to his
hundred wives.
The (Exalted) Messenger used to visit all nine of his wives every night
(Bukhari, Book of Nikah 352). On the other hand, Bukhari repeatedly
narrates
that the Holy Prophet used to stand at prayers all night. So much so that
his
feet used to swell.
The Holy Messenger used to have intercourse with all of his wives in one
hour
of the day and night (without taking a bath) and these (wives) were eleven.
The narrator tries to preempt an objection by stating that he (the Holy
Prophet) had the (sexual) power of 30 men (Bukhari, Book of Bath 1189).
The
Mulla mind has so terribly affected our masses that even derogatory
statements
such as this become praiseworthy. The Holy Prophet was a perfect guide to
humanity. He was not a man of unbridled desire. The women who lived in his
household were primarily there for shelter. Only a contemptuous mind can
perceive the Mothers of Believers as objects of pleasure for the Prophet.
Bukhari highlights the above hadith by putting a special heading "to have
sex
with many women with only one bath."
The Prophet said that the best man amongst his followers is the one who has
the greatest number of wives (Bukhari, Book of Nikah 352). The Qur'an
(4913)
tells us that the best person is the one who is best in conduct.
The Holy Prophet asked, "Who will buy this slave from me?" Hazrat Naeem
bought
him for 800 Darham (Bukhari, Kitabul Ikrah p.669). Did the Prophet sell
slaves?!
Aisha said to the Prophet, "Won't you rather graze your camel onto a tree
whose leaves have not yet been grazed?" Arwa bin Zubair said that Aisha
meant
she was the only virgin the Prophet had married (Bukhari, Book of Nikah
355).The Prophet disapproved of his companion Jabir's plan to marry a widow and
asked, "Why did you not marry a virgin so that you played with her and she
played with you?" (reference same). The Holy Prophet was extremely
compassionate to widows and divorced women.
Hazrat Ali stated that he suffered from "jiryan" (drainage of prostate
secretions) constantly (Bukhari, Kitabul Ilm p.150). This fictitious
condition
is widely believed in the East to take away manhood completely. Someone is
trying to dishonor the great mujahid of Islam.
The sun rises between the two antlers of Satan (Bukhari 2134).
Prophet Abraham lied three times (Bukhari, Book of Nikah 357). After
insulting the Patriarch of Faith, the narrator goes on to justify the
accusation with lame arguments.
After the fall of Khyber, people described the beauty of Safia Bint Hui,
the
new bride of a slain enemy soldier. The Prophet chose her for himself. On
the
way to Madina he stopped and had intercourse with her. His companions did
not
know if she was a wife or a concubine. Later, a veil was drawn between her
and
the men-folk and they came to know that she was a wife (Bukhari, Book of
Sales
and Book of Nikah 359). Elsewhere, the narrator of the wicked story states
that Safia was initially given to Wahia Kulbi, but because of her beauty,
the
Prophet chose her for himself, and asked Wahia to pick another woman.
v An important reminder The Qur'an (474) ordains that prisoners of war
are
to be freed either for ransom or as an act of kindness. There is no third
option. How could the Prophet and his holy companions enslave human beings?
The Prophet said, "Bad luck, misfortune and doom can exist in a wife, a
home
and a horse" (Bukhari, Book of Nikah 360).
"After my time, the greatest tribulation for men will be women" (Bukhari,
Book
of Nikah 361).
The Prophet said to a man, "I make you the owner of this woman because you
can
recite some Surahs of the Qur'an" (Bukhari, Book of Nikah 369).
"A woman presented herself to the Prophet. He intently gazed at her from
head
to toe and then lowered his head" (meaning she did not interest him)
(Bukhari,
Book of Nikah 371).
Have you noted the degradation of women in the above five ahadith? Could
these
be the words and deeds of the Holy Prophet? The Qur'an testifies that the
Exalted Prophet was the best in conduct (684) and a model for all mankind
(3321).
When the Prophet married Aisha, she was 6 years old, and the marriage was
consummated when she was 9 (and he was 54) (Bukhari, Book of Nikah 375).
On
the other hand, the Qur'an ties marriage to adulthood and mental maturity
by
declaring marriage a solemn covenant (421). There is strong historical
evidence contrary to Bukhari, but our Mulla loves nothing but trash of this
kind. The Holy Prophet never did anything against the Qur'an. "His
character
was the Qur'an," (Hazrat Aisha).
I saw that most of those entering the gate of hellfire were women (Bukhari,
Book of Nikah 397).
Fitna (tribulation) is in the East (Bukhari, Book of Talaq 3132). We
seriously doubt that the Holy Prophet, called the "mercy for the worlds" by
Allah, could confine his vision to East or West.
Aisha said to the Prophet, "Ah! My head is bursting." He said, "I wish it
did." Aisha responded "You want me to die so that you can spend the next
night with another wife" (Bukhari, Book of Medicine, vol.3).
Run from the leper as you run from the lion (Bukhari, Book of Medicine
3259).
Against this see the contradiction in several sources "There is no such
thing
as a contagious disease."
A man inquired, "We earn income from these bondwomen, (other narratives
mention prostitution) so can we do coitus interruptus with them?" The
Prophet
said, "There is no sin in doing that" (Kitabul Qadr 3543). The most famous
Mulla of the 20th century, Maudoodi, comments on this hadith that it is
alright for a master to marry off a slave girl to another while using her
for
all personal services (except sex) (Tafhim 1340).
Some people got sick in Madina. The Prophet advised them to drink camel's
urine and milk. After they became well, they killed a shepherd. The Prophet
ordered that their hands and feet be chopped off and their eyes enucleated.
They were laid on burning sand. When they asked for water it was denied
them.
So much so that they tasted sand until they died (Kitabul Mahrabain and
Kitabut Tib p.254). Dear Reader, could the compassionate and merciful
Prophet
order torture on human beings? Is it possible that the narrator of this
hadith
wants to portray the Holy Prophet as barbaric? Could this narrator be a
true
Muslim?
Seeing a black woman in a dream is the sign of an oncoming epidemic
(Kitabul
Ta'abir). Alas, the poor woman! Here comes more...
The Prophet's wives awoke late one morning. He said, "Many women who are
dressed up in this world will be raised unclothed in the Hereafter"
(Kitabul
Fatan 371.
Some Muslims sided with Mushrikeen and idolaters and invited them to attack
the Prophet! (Kitabul Fatan 3723). The Qur'an mentions all of the Holy
companions as staunch believers (874) with whom Allah was pleased (9100).
The Exalted Prophet said, "I will be the first one to regain consciousness
in
Qiamat, but I will find prophet Moses holding the foot of the Throne of God
(Hadith 1750 p.784). This hadith has obviously been contrived by some
non-Muslim to indicate the superiority of Prophet Moses over Mohammad (SA).
I was walking outside and suddenly saw the angel of Hira sitting on a
throne
that filled the earth and the sky. I was terrified so much that I was about
to
fall to the ground (Hadith 471 p.224). The Exalted Prophet was the most
courageous person the planet has ever seen and angels are not fond of
playing
tricks with prophets.
Ali Murtaza and Fatima prayed only when they could get up from sleep. The
Prophet rebuked them, "Man is more contentious than all other things"
(Kitabul
Aetesam).
The Prophet allowed Mohammad bin Muslima to kill a non-Muslim, Kaab bin
Ashraf, through deception (Kitabul Jihad 2134).
The Prophet used to become very restless and frightened whenever he saw the
sky overcast (Bukhari, Beginning of Creation 2213). The Holy Prophet
preached
against omens and superstitions and was a man of great courage.
Hoors (beauties of heaven) will be full-breasted and free of menstruation
(Bukhari, Beginning of Creation 2225).
v Important Note Hoor is plural in Arabic meaning "intelligent and
righteous
companions". Ahwar is the male gender and haoora is the female. The promise
of
such companions in Paradise is referred to in the Holy Qur'an 4454 and
5220.
For centuries, our historians and Imams have portrayed hoors only as
voluptuous women of Paradise.
The hellfire complained to Allah, "One part of me is eating the other
part."
So, the hellfire was allowed two breaths - one in summer and one in winter.
That is how you see the change of seasons (Bukhari, Beginning of Creation
2231).
Azan, (the call to prayer), puts Satan to flight, expelling gas as he runs
away (Bukhari Beginning of Creation 2237).
Satan rests at night in your noses (Bukhari, Beginning of Creation 2241).
A rooster sees angels, and a donkey sees Satan (Bukhari, Beginning of
Creation
2213).
Rats are the lost tribe of Israel because they drink not the camel's milk,
but
drink goat's milk (Bukhari, Beginning of Creation 2244). The camel was
prohibited as a food source for the Israelites.
The above statements need no comment except that only a foolish mind can
accept them as coming from the wisest man the planet has ever known.
Five animals are sinful, so kill them even in Makkah rat, scorpion, eagle,
crow, and a biting dog (Bukhari, Beginning of Creation 2245).
The Prophet ordered the killing of dogs (Bukhari, Beginning of Creation
2247). Elsewhere it says the killing of all black dogs was ordered.
Woman was created from the rib so she will always remain crooked. Leave her
crooked (Bukhari, Beginning of Creation 2251). This is a Biblical
statement.
Later, it adds and reap advantage. The Qur'an does not state that woman was
created from a rib.
Prophet Job was bathing. Locusts of gold started raining on him (Kitabul
Anbia).
Mamoona said that she gazed at the Prophet taking a bath after intercourse,
until she saw him wash his private parts (Bukhari, The Book of Bath 1193).
The Prophet declared that modesty is a part of faith. Modesty and faith are
tied together. However, for centuries our Mullas have been repeating,
"There
is no shame in religion." Many a woman has been dishonored on this
assumption.
A hadith was made up in the name of Hazrat Aisha praising Ansari women for
asking questions without concern for modesty or shame. To our Imams and
Mullas, questions of religion comprise in great part of sex, bath,
menstruation, concubines, multi-marriages, divorce, and the like. Witness
another example of shamelessness
Abu Hurairah reported, "When tips of the genitalia meet, and the man sits
between the woman's legs and pushes, a bath becomes obligatory" (Bukhari
195,
chapter 201). Thanks for the details!
Aisha said, "The Prophet used to place a pillow in my lap even though I
would
be menstruating, and then he would recite the Qur'an" (Bukhari, Book of
Bath).
Can even an ordinary Muslim, do this?!
If the Prophet wanted to have intercourse with a menstruating wife, he
ordered
her to tie a loincloth even though the menstruation would be at its peak.
Then
he had intercourse. Whoever has concocted this hadith adds a contrary
statement Aisha said, "No one of you has as much control over his desire
as
the Prophet had!" (The Book on Menstruation 198, chapter 207).
Abu Hurairah narrates that the Prophet said, "I was praying. Satan came in
front of me and tried to force me to break my prayers. Allah gave me
control
over him and I threw him down. I thought of tying him with a pillar so that
you could see him in the morning (Bukhari 1469, chapter 766). According to
another hadith, which agrees with the Qur'an, there is a Satan (temptation)
within each person.
Fasting castrates (Bukhari 1685). No comments.
Aisha relates, "The Prophet used to have intercourse with us and kissed us
while he was fasting." Then she shied away smiling (Bukhari 2691).
Khola bint Hakeem presented herself to the Prophet. Aisha exclaimed, "The
woman does not feel ashamed of saying this!" However, the Prophet started
receiving a revelation and Aisha complained, "O' Messenger of Allah! I see
that your Lord rushes to fulfill your desires" (Bukhari, Kitabun Nikah
p.67).
Here, some criminal is trying to create doubt in the Holy Revelation.
The summary of hadith #309 is that an angel writes a person's fate while
he/she is in the mother's womb, whether it will be a male or female, good
or
bad. Money, age, death, etc. are also predestined. Dear Reader, no wonder
that
thinking minds ask why then it was necessary to reveal Allah's Guidance!
Now begins the Book of Salat (in Bukhari)
Hadith #339 states that in Makkah the roof of the Prophet's house ripped
itself apart and in descended the angel Gabriel. "My breast was then opened
up
and washed with the water of Zam Zam. Then a platter of gold filled with
faith
and wisdom was poured into my chest, which was then closed. Then the angel
held my hand and took me straight to the heavens." Please note here that
Meraj, or "ascension," is being described and there is no mention of
Jerusalem. What about the Centaur, "Al-Burraq"! And if faith and wisdom
were
surgically poured into the chest of the Holy Prophet doesn't he cease to be
a
model for humanity? Other hadith state the Holy Prophet was sleeping at Umm
Hani's house during this event, a covert slander.
In the same book, in hadith #339, you find the story of Moses advising the
Prophet time and again that he return to God to reduce the number of daily
prayers (from 50 to 5). It appears that some Judaic mind is trying to prove
the superiority of Moses to Mohammad. It is also to be remembered that
Allah
is Omnipresent. He is not confined to the heavens. So, someone going to
meet
with Him there is a non-Qur'anic concept. Surah Asra 1760 makes it clear
that
it was a dream of the Prophet which became a test for people.
People told Aisha (the mother of believers) that Salat becomes null and
void
if a dog, a donkey, or a woman comes in front. Syedah Aisha said, "You made
us
dogs" (#484).
The Messenger of Allah addressed his wife Safia as "O' you bald-headed
perished one!" (Bukhari, Kitabut Talaq p.143).
Dear Reader, many of the passages in this book are disturbing. We have
copied
them with a heavy heart. This work has been undertaken so that our younger
generation does not think of these insults as a part of Islam. It isShabbir Ahmed MD
Sajjad
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Salaam all, Samia, Elke,
Well your post is going to backfire on you for you are either ignorant or you are not ignorant but aiming to mislead. Imam Ahmad was born in 164 hijri and died in 241 hijri. Bukhari was born 192 hijri and died 256 Hijri. So, no Imam Ahmad narrated the hadeeth of Aisha probably either before Bukhari was born or when he was a child.Salaam haltif
That's even worse!!
So the span of time is even shorter between them and bukhari could have found the source for the "real" hadith among almost the same generation as did imam ahmed, or he could have read what imam ahmad wrote. He did not even ask imam ahmad's students, but was busy travelling all over the land to find hadiths!! . However you put it, as long as this hadith existed, Bukhari failed to find it, although what he collected was insulting to the prophet. When they were born or died is of no importance at all. What's important is was this hadith there when he was busy collecting hadith? Or maybe he found it but discarded of it as one of the 563,000 weak ones and kept this "more authentic" one!!
So, we have two possibilities
-Either he did not search well as we were told; therefore he is neither a scholar nor a researcher
-Or he did search well, found the hadith, and rejected it and kept the incomplete version that makes him a sinister.Or maybe he rejected ibn hambal as a trustworthy narrator (weak sanad) o ???
BTW I got these years from sunni websites. It seems that even their fans are not sure when they were born!
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Peace hlatif
Elke, God does change His laws. You can actually read the Qur'an and you will see those laws that changed.
i actually read the quran, many times... and i never saw things like yo do
imo gods law never change - what i always call the morals - what are laws there for - only for our good, god does not need us to obey laws to please him. it is only for our good.about changing laws in quran lets take the alcohol example; i knows what you mean, laws became harder aso until alcohol was totally prohibited. that's the usual position. not my understanding though. the most important thing for me about the alcohol thing (and its not only alcohol) have a clear head when you try to establish contact with god - just as with the people around you "so that you know what you are saying and doing"
The most restrictive" keep away from alcohol" is imo meant for those that do not know how to manage it. Be it real Alcoholics or the occasional heavy drinkers that drink too much on saturday night and then go kill people with their cars , get into stupid fights etc
sorry i know alcohol is not the subject, but just to make my position clearnow i really did not like your post to samia saying she was being ignorant or aiming to mislead. i know she's a big girl and can answer for herself but i guess i'm aimed to as well. its not because our opinions differs from yours (and by the way i'm sure that samia and i differ too) that we aim to mislead.everyone has ones own mind and life experience which will determine how one will understand. and only god guides.
lk