Jizya ~ "alien tax"
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Peace
Be muslim or not, you still need to pay a tax. I dont see how this is an unfair hardship towards the Christians or Jews. Matter of fact, it is better than the taxations that we have in United States.
Is there taxation against the atheist or is he not permitted to live there? Also, what of Hindus and other religions?
Peace
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Jizya, as imposed during Muhammad's time, was never based upon income tax. It was purely a religious tithe mandated upon non-Muslim creed. No country on earth sanctions jizya today. Income tax is not based upon color and creed. The jizya is commanded in the Quran as per 929 which Muslims have now desecrated. This is yet one of the many examples which invariantly displays that Quran was never meant to be for ALL TIMES and cannot possibly be from a merciful god. Read the history of jizya.
Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Pakistan (not sure) and several other Muslim countries do not allow Jews or Israelies to enter their lands. There's no visa available to them regardless of jizya. This is yet another religious cruelty.
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Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Pakistan (not sure) and several other Muslim countries do not allow Jews or Israelies to enter their lands. There's no visa available to them regardless of jizya. This is yet another religious cruelty.
can you provide a source for that claim?
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"Restricted entry and transit The Government of Pakistan refuses entry to nationals of Israel, even for transit." http//www.learn4good.com/travel/pakistan_visa.htm#req
"Please note that Israelis and travellers whose Passports bear Israeli stamps will be denied a visa". http//www.dubai.com/s/dubaicity/index11.html
"Restricted entry (a) Holders of an Israeli passport or passports with Israeli stamps in them." http//www.learn4good.com/travel/saudi_arabia_visa.htm
The same is true for UAE and other Muslim countries, perhaps not all.
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I never liked this tax, it seemed to be very close to an attack upon freedom of religion. I had also had done some research some time ago where it was linked to one of the (but very small cause) causes of the crusades. To me it sounds like "You can keep practicing your religion, but you have to pay us to do so." Is there any record of anyone who refused to pay the tax and what happend to them?
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Is there any record of anyone who refused to pay the tax and what happend to them?
They were sent to "physical hell". Do a google search on the word "jizya" and read on. It is quite shocking. Just what the "doctor" ordered.929 Fight/kill those who do not believe with God and nor the last day and do not forbid what God and His messenger forbids, nor adapt/acknowledge the religion of truth from those who were given the book until they pay the jizya with submission and become subdued (saghiroon).
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http//19.org/index.php?id=14,174,0,0,1,0
Aside from that article, it's very simple if one opens their eyes.
Wars are allowed only against aggressors (2190-194), and the word itself means compensation, place two and two together and...
As for the "jizya" implemented by the empires, that is extra-Quranic (unless one disregards 2190 )). Not surprising from the same people who had harems filled with women, and based their deen on conjecture and hearsay, in any case.
This is what happens when verses of the Quran are taken out of context, and the effect is doubled when one resorts to fabricated hearsay to "verify" the "truth".
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"Restricted entry and transit The Government of Pakistan refuses entry to nationals of Israel, even for transit." http//www.learn4good.com/travel/pakistan_visa.htm#req
"Please note that Israelis and travellers whose Passports bear Israeli stamps will be denied a visa". http//www.dubai.com/s/dubaicity/index11.html
"Restricted entry (a) Holders of an Israeli passport or passports with Israeli stamps in them." http//www.learn4good.com/travel/saudi_arabia_visa.htm
The same is true for UAE and other Muslim countries, perhaps not all.
You said Jews, please show where JEWS are not allowed. Israeli includes Muslim Arabs, Druze, Jews of all kinds, and such. If they do not recognize Israel as a state, why would they wish to allow them in?
You also concealed the fact that Israel denotes most of those as "Enemy countries" and citizens need special permits to go there, in any case.
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As for the "jizya" implemented by the empires, that is extra-Quranic (unless one disregards 2190 )). Not surprising from the same people who had harems filled with women, and based their deen on conjecture and hearsay, in any case.
What empires? What extra-Quranic? Didn't you understand anything out of 929 or that too is out-of-context without your explanation? Since when did the verse 929 become extra-Quranic? What has "harems filled with women" got to do with jizya? How is conjecture and hearsay anything to do with 929. ??? )This is what happens when verses of the Quran are taken out of context, and the effect is doubled when one resorts to fabricated hearsay to "verify" the "truth".
How is the verse 929 out-of-context and what double effects are you talking about? Do you usually hop around all over the forum aimlessly? -
You said Jews, please show where JEWS are not allowed. Israeli includes Muslim Arabs, Druze, Jews of all kinds, and such. If they do not recognize Israel as a state, why would they wish to allow them in?
I said Jews or Israelies and not just JEWS? Where is your evidence that they do not recognize Israel as a state and therefore their visas are cut off? Israel is the ONLY country recognized as "jewish". It has nothing to do with some Muslims or Christians or Hindus residing in it?You also concealed the fact that Israel denotes most of those as "Enemy countries" and citizens need special permits to go there, in any case.
I concealed it, LOL ??? The fact that Israel allows for Muslim countries to have special permits speaks volumes on their "enemy countries" who do not and the fact the Muslim Arabs already live there? ;D The Jews have always been a bad omen for Muslims since your prophet took over and the reasons are clear in the Quran ALONE. Send some Jews to Pakistan or Saudi Arabia and they will be slaughtered without mercy. Quite telling of the 5th/6th century Arab jahilia and the jizya. -
I said Jews or Israelies and not just JEWS? Where is your evidence that they do not recognize Israel as a state and therefore their visas are cut off? Israel is the ONLY country recognized as "jewish". It has nothing to do with some Muslims or Christians or Hindus residing in it?
Before Egypt recognized Israel, no carrier of an israeli passport (even muslims or christians) were allowed in. After recognition, the ban on Israeli passport holders is lifted and now they enter. Another example is my own country, Sudan, where no israel passport holder is admitted, yet we have sudanese jews who are living and working in the sudan and getting on with their lives, as well as jews from other countries, even during the application of the so called islamic law, nothing extra was applied to them nor have they left the country. The third example is Iran, where 25,000 jews are still living there.
Moreover, it is not just the Israeli passport that is not admitted, but also an israeli visa on any passport will render the holder of that passport not welcome to enter a country that does not recognize the state of israel. Westerners know this very well and they get their visas to israel on seperate papers, if they plan to visit an arab country afterwards. This is merely a political issue you don't recognize a country, you wont recognize its passport; a holder of unrecognized passport is not allowed in.