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Is there such a thing as "Prophetess"?

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    amuslim
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    Peace

    Throughout the Quran and the Torah, there are only male prophets. Is it possible to have a female prophet, a prophetess? How I came up with that name was I was watching the Christian channel TBN and a lady had the title "Prophetess" and she was preaching.

    Can someone tell me exactly what distiniguishes between a prophet and a messenger? I know that Rashad says that a nabi is someone who brings scripture. Now, ff all the men in the Quran are prophets, then they all brought some scripture? He then says that rasool is one who just gives messages, doesnt necessarily bring scripture. If you are nabi, you are rasool. But if you are a rasool, it doesnt mean you are a nabi. Is that definition correct? Also, do you believe that there were Prophetess'?

    Ive also heard that a Prophet is one who prophesies and gives prophecy, like Nostradamus. Again, that would mean that all the men in Quran prophesied?

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      You will get a FAR better answer from the Quran itself as opposed to on here. Having said that, rasool is a grander task than nabi. The rasool brings scripture, hence the very meaning of the word.

      Ive also heard that a Prophet is one who prophesies and gives prophecy, like Nostradamus. Again, that would mean that all the men in Quran prophesied?

      No, not at all. Nabi =/= one who prophecies. Regardless, they all communicate what is revealed to them.

      Regardless, rasool in the Quran is very universal. There are tonnes of topics on this, anyway.

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        amuslim
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        Peace

        So Rasool and Nabi, Muhammad was the seal to both or just Khatam an-nabiyyin?

        Peace

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          Peace

          Can someone tell me exactly what distiniguishes between a prophet and a messenger? I know that Rashad says that a nabi is someone who brings scripture. Now, ff all the men in the Quran are prophets, then they all brought some scripture? He then says that rasool is one who just gives messages, doesnt necessarily bring scripture. If you are nabi, you are rasool. But if you are a rasool, it doesnt mean you are a nabi. Is that definition correct? Also, do you believe that there were Prophetess'?

          Peace

          Dear
          This is the way these LIARS deceive the people and tamper the Holy Quran
          All Nabi came with Scriptures (books)

          2213

          All Rasools came with Scriptures(Books)

          5725

          Quran is Crystal clear.
          His followers may to remove these Ayas from the Quran as he did with (9128,129)
          Beware!

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            amuslim
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            Peace

            So youre saying that Rasool and Nabi are both synonymous? Therefore, the usage of either word doesn't change the meaning of the ayat?

            Peace

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              Peace

              So youre saying that Rasool and Nabi are both synonymous? Therefore, the usage of either word doesn't change the meaning of the ayat?

              Peace

              It changes it significantly. See the other thread.

              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=15121.0

              They are not interchangeable, esp. when talking about negativity.

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                amuslim
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                Peace

                It changes it significantly. See the other thread.

                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=15121.0

                They are not interchangeable, esp. when talking about negativity.

                What page in particular? Also I was referring to his own belief in that particular post.

                Peace

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                  Leoxyz
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                  Peace

                  So youre saying that Rasool and Nabi are both synonymous? Therefore, the usage of either word doesn't change the meaning of the ayat?

                  Peace

                  Surely these are synonymous and interchangeable.
                  Both of these terms have been used for the Holy Prophet PBUH.
                  These two roles cannot be separated because as I have mentioned the Ayaat which clearly mentione that both (Rasools/Nabis) are given "BOOKS" to convey Allah's message to the People.

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                    Ghulam_Rasool
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                    No.

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                      Lost_Philosopher
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                      Ouch Yusha, why is that not possible?

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                        Ghulam_Rasool
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                        Ouch Yusha, why is that not possible?

                        Allah knows best, though I suspect because being a Prophet is a very public thing, but women are not suppose to be in public. However, revelation can come to a woman as in the case with Pharoah's wife and virgin Mary, but they were not prophets, their revelations were personal.

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                          Allah knows best, though I suspect because being a Prophet is a very public thing, but women are not suppose to be in public. However, revelation can come to a woman as in the case with Pharoah's wife and virgin Mary, but they were not prophets, their revelations were personal.

                          Emphasis mine - Really? You're very condescending to women, why? rotfl

                          As for "virgin mary", I believe this was pretty public. 2 billion Christians tell me that it is public. So, when Mary has revelation while in a retreat, it is "personal". But of course, when Muhammad has revelation in his Hira cave, it is for all to see. Never mind that Mary's story is detailed in the Quran and Bible for almost all of humanity to see.

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                            Samia
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                            And how about the revelation for the mother of Moses?

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                              Al-Quraishi
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                              Throughout the Quran and the Torah, there are only male prophets.

                              That's not actually true, there are prophetesses in the Torah.

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                                Ghulam_Rasool
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                                As for "virgin mary", I believe this was pretty public. 2 billion Christians tell me that it is public. So, when Mary has revelation while in a retreat, it is "personal". But of course, when Muhammad has revelation in his Hira cave, it is for all to see. Never mind that Mary's story is detailed in the Quran and Bible for almost all of humanity to see.

                                You misunderstood what I mean. The story of the revelations to these great women is well known. However, the nature of their revelations were personal, for example the Angel telling Mary that she will conceive Jesus, etc. However, if you look at the nature of the revelations to the prophets, their revelations exhorted them to preach the message and convey divine laws to their people. These kind of revelation never descend on women.

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                                  amuslim
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                                  Peace

                                  That's not actually true, there are prophetesses in the Torah.

                                  I mean when it lists the names like, Zacharia, Idris, Noah, etc. its always male names when its being repeated, unless Im mistaken. Again, does it call Mary or any other females Prophets or Messengers at all?

                                  I can see what Yusha is saying, but again without the Quran stating whether its possible or not, Im just asking for opinions.

                                  Peace

                                  EDIT Didnt see the Torah part, sorry. Who are prophetess' in the Torah?

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                                    You misunderstood what I mean. The story of the revelations to these great women is well known. However, the nature of their revelations were personal, for example the Angel telling Mary that she will conceive Jesus, etc. However, if you look at the nature of the revelations to the prophets, their revelations exhorted them to preach the message and convey divine laws to their people. These kind of revelation never descend on women.

                                    Ah. Got it.

                                    I believe Christians would probably take issue with that though.

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                                      Leoxyz
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                                      Ouch Yusha, why is that not possible?

                                      1643

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                                        Lost_Philosopher
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                                        1643

                                        I dont know arabic.

                                        If you take a secular look at it, it seems like there hasn't been a female prophet because ancient society wouldn't accept it.

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                                          Leoxyz
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                                          I dont know arabic.

                                          It seems you have some brain.You admitted your weakness.
                                          Thanks

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