Diffentiating ppl of other religions
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Yeah but the case is closed, remember?
Case reopened.
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Maybe I'm just paranoid, but might VVA be a 'hypothetical hindu'?
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The distinctions can be measured by their impacts, by numbers. "Piety" can't really be numbered but "most merit" can, at least by money.
This sounds like a very touchy issue to me. I'm not understanding how you can measure "most merit" by money. Can you please explain further what you mean? Thanks!
peace
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but not in this case
VVA, I still understand, from reading you say
But i am a hindu, i am being differentiated by Muslims. Did allah say that?
If you differentiated your self by claiming you are hindu, then why would it be difficult for you to understand that you are being differentiated by any other so called group?
Perhaps, the best to for me to think to answer your question, "Did Allah say that?" would be to put it this way. As a hindu I believe (if my understanding is correct) you believe in one God which is manifest in many different forms. As Muslims (ones who adhere to Islam, Peaceful Submission to God) we take all the gods and make them into one. the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds; Most Gracious, Most Merciful; Master of the Day of Judgment.
Surah 38. Sad, (the Letter) Sad ( S )
- Sad By the Qur'an, Full of Admonition (This is the Truth).
- But the Unbelievers (are steeped) in self-glory and Separatism.
- How many generations before them did We destroy? In the end they cried (for mercy)- when there was no longer time for being saved!
- So they wonder that a Warner has come to them from among themselves! and the Unbelievers say, "This is a sorcerer telling lies!
- "Has he made the gods (all) into one Allah. Truly this is a wonderful thing!"
- And the leader among them go away (impatiently), (saying), "Walk ye away, and remain constant to your gods! For this is truly a thing designed (against you)!
- "We never heard (the like) of this among the people of these latter days this is nothing but a made-up tale!"
- "What! has the Message been sent to him - (Of all persons) among us?"...but they are in doubt concerning My (Own) Message! Nay, they have not yet tasted My Punishment!
- Or have they the treasures of the mercy of thy Lord,- the Exalted in Power, the Grantor of Bounties without measure?
- Or have they the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all between? If so, let them mount up with the ropes and means (to reach that end)!
- But there - will be put to flight even a host of confederates.
I've actually been loosely following the troubles between hindu and muslim in India. I've come to the conclusion that most of the problems between these two seperate groups are merely because of semantics. At the roots I see how both are devout and pious people, but yet being steeped in to seperatism causes such problems to occure.
Peace... peace
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This sounds like a very touchy issue to me. I'm not understanding how you can measure "most merit" by money. Can you please explain further what you mean? Thanks!
peace
When the richest man is a penny richer than the poorest man, and both have enough, there is "merit".
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When the richest man is a penny richer than the poorest man, and both have enough, there is "merit".
I think I understand you are saying. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you feel if we all were on more equal footing financially that warrents merit. Therefore we can measure this merit by the fact that we are equal in financial matters.
But how does that equate to what you said earlier
Distinction is made in terms of who has the most merit, who does the most good, and hence, who has the most piety.
How does having money make one good?
Thank you for taking the time.
peace. peace
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I think I understand you are saying. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you feel if we all were on more equal footing financially that warrents merit. Therefore we can measure this merit by the fact that we are equal in financial matters.
But how does that equate to what you said earlier
How does having money make one good?
Thank you for taking the time.
peace. peace
I remember reading about the Sunni caliphate system, mostly the aim of "zakat". The way it was set up, it would need everybody to give and not take unless needed, in other words, somewhat optional.
Rather, what I meant was that if it was completely balanced, it would mean those blessed with wealth by God did as they should have, and spent it freely, and selflessly though not extravagantly. That is a tangible example of "merit", not THE standard.
How does having money make one good?
Goodness is judged by God alone. Money shows a direct effect, usually. If Bill Gates threw all his money & corporation at Africa and turned it into a first-world paradise, is that not merit? Only God knows a person's true intentions, but we are advised to avoid suspicion in each other. Hence, in this case, we would have to consider our hypothetical Bill Gates as merituous.
You're asking me my views, when I am echoing the Quran, you will never get a good answer, because I am not God )