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    nerspi
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    peace to all

    3350 O prophet, We have made lawful for you the wives to whom you have already given their dowries, and those who are committed to you by oath, as granted to you by God, and the daughters of your father's brothers, and the daughters of your father's sisters, and the daughters of your mother's brothers, and the daughters of your mother's sisters, of whom they have emigrated with you. Also, the believing woman who had decreed herself to the prophet, the prophet may marry her if he wishes, as a privilege given only to you and not to the believers. We have already decreed their rights in regard to their spouses and those who are committed to them by oath. This is to spare you any hardship. God is Forgiver, Merciful.

    lawful in what way?
    many other translations imply that the prophet was allowed to marry his cousins.
    what do you say to that?

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      33049 O you who believe! when you marry the believing women, then divorce them before you touch them, you have in their case no term which you should reckon; so make some provision for them and send them forth a goodly sending forth.

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        TheNabi
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        Peace

        Marriage between cousins is not forbidden.

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          nerspi
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          peace

          33049 O you who believe! when you marry the believing women, then divorce them before you touch them, you have in their case no term which you should reckon; so make some provision for them and send them forth a goodly sending forth.

          and your point is...?

          Marriage between cousins is not forbidden.

          it's not? shouldn't it be? it's wrong, itsn't it?

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            peace

            and your point is...?

            it's not? shouldn't it be? it's wrong, itsn't it?

            Lawful in marriage is what I meant.

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              nerspi
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              peace

              that's why i asked,
              and it says it's a privelege only for him, so why mention it to us if it's just for him?
              besides, since when is it ok to marry a cousin, isn't that almost incest?

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                See 423, it isn't a "prophet-exclusive" restriction.

                besides, since when is it ok to marry a cousin, isn't that almost incest?

                It has been OK for thousands of years.

                Look at it this way, two cousins have, 25% + 25% (i.e. the mother of the child gives 50% of chromosomes, and she has 25% from her father, 25% from her mother) of chromosomes shared from the original family, and 25% + 25% from their differing mothers/fathers, which makes 50% from the original family and 50% other. When they have children it will be 50% of chromosomes/gene information from the original family, and 50% from the other family - just like a standard random male meets random female scenario. With siblings, we have 25% + 25% from the original family, and again, 25% + 25% from the orginal family, meaning there are no new "genes" per se in the child, meaning that is inbreeding. In other words, marriage between cousins is the threshold from which incest ends/begins.

                Just because it is permissible, however, doesn't mean you have to, it just means you keep your nose out or do not pass judgement in cases where it does happen. If I remember correctly, the royal families are notorious for this practice.

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                  According to 4-23 cousin marriage is not incest, however the word , immigrated with you" in 33-50 gives an impression that , caution must be taken , A few generation's inbreeding can cause trouble and hence may be avoided. i mean do it only if it is necessary, don't make it a habit.

                  And this was probably not being practised at that time, that is why this was specifically spelled out on this occasion, when believing women were in short supply.

                  siki

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                    Almost incest and being incest is not the same. hmm

                    It's not a command to marry your cousins. So you do not have to, but you are not forbidden to marry them.

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                      I think cousins are allowed as 'last resort' situations

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                        Peace

                        Cousins are not that bad. I would not say they are a last resort. I'd readily take a cousin as a first resort, but different people feel differently when it comes to who they allow themselves to become romatically involved with or attracted to.

                        Joe

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                          It is really our own perceptions/preconceived notions that tell us that 'marrying cousins is wrong', also due to the majority fallacy.

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