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83:8 &19 ?

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    Bahman
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    Peace

    Khalifa
    Do you know what Elleyyeen is? Yusuf Ali And what will explain to thee what 'Illiyun is? Pickthal Ah, what will convey unto thee what 'Illiyin is! - Shakir6 And what will make you know what the highest Iliyin is? Sher Ali And what should make thee know what Illiyyun is ?
    "Progressive Muslims"
    And do you know what is Eliyeen?

    Can be written Alien ?

    Khalifa
    Do you know what Sijjeen is?
    Yusuf Ali
    And what will explain to thee what Sijjin is?
    Pickthal
    Ah! what will convey unto thee what Sijjin is! -
    Shakir
    And what will make you know what the Sijjin is?
    Sher Ali
    And what should make thee know what Sijj?n is ?
    "Progressive Muslims"
    And do you know what is Sijjeen?

    As far as I know 28 Arabic letters hav no CH prouncian and a name like SITCHIN could be writen only in one way of those above using JEEM "J" .
    Is that right?

    Peace.
    bahman

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      The sound "ch" is whispered, so it would be written in a letter with a whispered sound, like the sheen . e,g, Churchil would be written with a sheen (might be preceded by a taa) not a jeem.
      This is a general rule, since non Arabic names can take a completely different spelling when Arabicized.

      But, who is Sitchin?

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        I personally believe "aliens" are either experimental aircraft or just weather phenomena..

        8320, why did you miss that?

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          Bahman
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          The sound "ch" is whispered, so it would be written in a letter with a whispered sound, like the sheen . e,g, Churchil would be written with a sheen (might be preceded by a taa) not a jeem.
          This is a general rule, since non Arabic names can take a completely different spelling when Arabicized.

          But, who is Sitchin?

          Peace

          How you write Sitchin in Arabic?

          Sitchin is very popular among many people and scientists too. His claim for multiple Gods and way we are here is based date and numbers . He refers to Torah and bible but nothing from Quran.
          I linked his name to you tube that you can see many files about him. Just Google it and see how many files an sites are into his opinion.

          Peace.

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            Bahman
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            personally believe "aliens" are either experimental aircraft or just weather phenomena..
            8320, why did you miss that?

            Alien has many different meaning
            Actually I did not missed 8320 and that is manin issue .I am doing my third round search on 831-21.
            If we can write it Alien then the only language has meaning for this word as name is English which code 19 was revealed in that language and is world wide communication among nations.
            The people believe in Numerically Structured Book would be considered alien to those that have partner to God.

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              Peace

              How you write Sitchin in Arabic?

              Sitchin is very popular among many people and scientists too. His claim for multiple Gods and way we are here is based date and numbers . He refers to Torah and bible but nothing from Quran.
              I linked his name to you tube that you can see many files about him. Just Google it and see how many files an sites are into his opinion.

              Peace.

              or

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                Peace.
                I am refreshing this topic as we are closer to day of end of world Dec. 12 2012
                and as modern human with all kind of technology yet we follow modern Hadiths. )
                my search shows that your response is not right.
                T before ch is not pronounced
                http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/switch?s=t
                here Google translate has created same text as yours when converting spelling of text to Arabic.
                http//translate.google.com/#auto/ar/sitchin
                Check pronounce of switch and then Arabic which is totally different.
                and here is solution by oppressed Persian under sword ( which yet their descendent do same) which had no choice unless change their alphabet for missing CH
                http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_(Persian_letter)

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                  peace
                  This would be controversial.
                  I don't believe in the end of the world as being in 2012. However, maybe something is going to happen, or the smoke prophecy of sura 44 is going to happen, if it hasn't happened already etc.

                  God knows better.

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                    peace
                    This would be controversial.
                    I don't believe in the end of the world as being in 2012. However, maybe something is going to happen, or the smoke prophecy of sura 44 is going to happen, if it hasn't happened already etc.

                    God knows better.

                    Peace
                    End of world in 2012 is based on Sitchin claim, I do not believe in it as nobody knows the day (Rashad did a mistake about his claim hence 2280 Christian calendar is not correct).
                    My question if Jeem can be used for Ch in Arabic. T is not pronounced in Sitchin.
                    I think this file based on scientific data shows that such smoke will be happen in 2050 which increasing of CO2 gradually up to year 2050 that 11 billions from 12 billions would die.
                    I wish happen right now to find where I be ? rotfl
                    peace

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                      Peace
                      End of world in 2012 is based on Sitchin claim, I do not believe in it as nobody knows the day (Rashad did a mistake about his claim hence 2280 Christian calendar is not correct).
                      My question if Jeem can be used for Ch in Arabic. T is not pronounced in Sitchin.
                      I think this file based on scientific data shows that such smoke will be happen in 2050 which increasing of CO2 gradually up to year 2050 that 11 billions from 12 billions would die.
                      I wish happen right now to find where I be ? rotfl
                      peace

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                        Salam

                        Peace

                        Can be written Alien ?
                        As far as I know 28 Arabic letters hav no CH prouncian and a name like SITCHIN could be writen only in one way of those above using JEEM "J" .
                        Is that right?

                        Peace.
                        bahman

                        i love this forum yay yay yay there is a lot of fantasy everywhere!! ;D
                        i don't think, that Alien= Illyiin, but

                        Sitchin is very popular among many people and scientists too. His claim for multiple Gods and way we are here is based date and numbers . He refers to Torah and bible but nothing from Quran.
                        I linked his name to you tube that you can see many files about him. Just Google it and see how many files an sites are into his opinion.

                        you think so Allah says Sitchin =where the followers from Sitchins ideas will go?? amazing really ;D
                        and Illyiin= the places where the Aliens will be?

                        Alien= a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization ( distinguished from citizen).
                        a foreigner.
                        person who has been estranged or excluded.
                        just you should give the definition now alien from what?? from the followers of Sitchin??

                        it's very interesting well, but i think the Quran has no hidden meanings. If we search for hidden meanings, then we will open the Door for Shaitans whispering ... Allahu alem
                        Thank you for sharing and Salams

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                          Bahman
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                          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNLfNe12BKE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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                            Bahman
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                            Rock solid proof of alien life? Scientists claim fossilized algae inside meteorite

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                              Bahman
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                              Rock solid proof of alien life? Scientists claim fossilized algae inside meteorite

                              That link is broken and this is new one
                              http//rt.com/news/200903-aliens-lockheed-martin-pictures/

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                                Bahman
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                                That link is broken and this is new one
                                http//rt.com/news/200903-aliens-lockheed-martin-pictures/

                                108,000 km/h
                                The orbital speed of the Earth around the Sun averages about 30 km/s (108,000 km/h, or 67,108 mph), which is fast enough to cover the planet's diameter (about 12,700 km, or 7,900 miles) in seven minutes, and the distance to the Moon of 384,000 km (239,000 miles) in four hours.

                                Bushman seemed to have known the details of where and how those aliens live.

                                He claimed the creatures are inhabitants of a planet called Quintumnia. It is located 68 light-years away from Earth, yet it takes them only 45 minutes to travel to our planet. At home, they commute through telepathy, Bushman insisted.
                                They challenge you to bring retribution, and God never fails to fulfill His prophecy. A day of your Lord is like a thousand of your years.2247

                                All matters are controlled by Him from the heaven to the earth * in a day that equals one thousand of your years.325

                                Speed of light
                                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596729.msg172223#msg172223

                                http//youtu.be/Q3LA7yFoNvE

                                The angels, with their reports, climb to Him in a day that equals fifty thousand years.704

                                Light speed x 50

                                one day earth
                                = travelling in its orbit (108000 km/hr x 24 hours ) (one year 365 days) (50 000 years)

                                68 light year = 365x24x3600x 300,0000 km =

                                Can you see any relation ?

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                                  http//cdn2.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2014/10/boydBushman-728x400.png

                                  http//youtu.be/91o-qbForcs

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                                    V 20 has 2 W 8 L W 1 has 3 L 204002 Total 422 W 2 has 5 L 40200100640 Total 386 In chapter 83
                                    20 2 8 1 3 204002 422 2 5 40200100640 386 83
                                    19x19 x......+(19x2)

                                    8 Letters Total GV 808

                                    8,204002 40200100640,808
                                    7x7 x...............+(7x5)

                                    in Arabic oder
                                    40610020040 240020

                                    8,204002 40200100640,808
                                    7x7 x...........+(7x5)

                                    chapter , verse
                                    40610020040 240020,83,20
                                    7x7 x.............+7

                                    40610020040 240020,20,83
                                    7x7 x.............+(7x6)

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                                      Bahman
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                                      More.........

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                                        http//www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/alien-life-may-be-right-here-on-our-solar-systems-water-worlds/48899/

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                                          Salaam,

                                          I am surprised to see that film makers are more advance and talented than scientists.
                                          Because they bring up the concepts like aliens, space ships, etc. and they design how they should look like.
                                          And still so called NASA and other scientists and fake viewers uses the same designs which had been designed by film makers earlier, long back. brickwall

                                          May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                                          mmKhan

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