What If I Call Them What They Are?
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Peace "House M.D.",
JK- Man ofcourse i know that the west used to be almost as evil as the "islamic" world today. Only about 30 years ago here in germany "rape inside marriage" was not recognized as a crime. IM TALKING ABOUT THE WEST TODAY in the 21st century. Now it is one of the most humane that the world has ever seen compared to the rest, though by no means perfect. They have immensely improved and reformed over the past century especially the last couple of decades. In 2001 a new law was passed in germany that "hitting/beating ones children of any sort for any reason" was no longer allowed. So no need to give me history lessons for i know that already. If "muslims" were to follow the Quran Alone they could achieve all this and much more in perhaps only a couple of years but apparently they are bent on following hadith besides the uran.
JK- Yes one factor to measure a potential threat is to look at the number of people a certain group/cult has deliberately killed. BUT THIS IS BY NO MEANS THE ONLY FACTOR and one can most certainly not wait and see until that has happened otherwise it would be 10 X Nazi Germany. There are other ways to recognize potential threat and since i lived amongst these people and was almost as radical as the extremists i know what threat they could pose and how many BILLIONS could die. Theyve declared almost the entire western world as "dar ul-harb" meaning "abode of war". For them not even children of whom they label as "kufaar" are considered innocent. And they are the ones in power. If they acquire nuclear weapons the holocaust would seem like nothing in comparison to what would happen then. So please wake up and realize the threat before it's too late. Speak out loudly against the radicals. Dont sowhow any sympathy towards them and let any troops who meet them kill and slay them and cut off their hands and feet on alternate sides. GOD Bless!
IM TALKING ABOUT THE WEST TODAY in the 21st century. Now it is one of the most humane that the world has ever seen compared to the rest, though by no means perfect.
Peace Jonny_K,
IM TALKING ABOUT THE WEST TODAY in the 21st century. Now it is one of the most humane that the world has ever seen compared to the rest, though by no means perfect. They have immensely improved and reformed over the past century especially the last couple of decades. In 2001 a new law was passed in germany that "hitting/beating ones children of any sort for any reason" was no longer allowed. So no need to give me history lessons for i know that already.
The same 'humane' westerners who electrocute animals to kill? Who allow hunting for fun? Who go around the world making wars for profit?
You mean like the humane westerns who have killed 1 million iraqis, raped their land, and stolen their oil ?
If "muslims" were to follow the Quran Alone they could achieve all this and much more in perhaps only a couple of years but apparently they are bent on following hadith besides the uran.
"Muslims" is not a title. What is the bible, it'a hadeeth itself.. Why is the west excused from their hadeeth?
There are other ways to recognize potential threat and since i lived amongst these people and was almost as radical as the extremists i know what threat they could pose and how many BILLIONS could die
Am I to take this seriously? Dude, there are 'extremists' in EVERY corner of the globe. In EVERY country, state, province, city, religion, ethnicity etc...
Theyve declared almost the entire western world as "dar ul-harb" meaning "abode of war".
Oh please. Lest you forget that Osama bin laden was on the side of the Americans before they started playing world police. Google "Tim Osman" He and his associates were used by the CIA against the Russians. Ask yourself why they turned against the "West"?
And they are the ones in power. If they acquire nuclear weapons the holocaust would seem like nothing in comparison to what would happen then
That's ridiculous, why should the 'west' be allowed to have nuclear weapons?! The east has the right to protect themselves as much as the west does. Either both have the right, or neither do.
Dont sowhow any sympathy towards them and let any troops who meet them kill and slay them and cut off their hands and feet on alternate sides. GOD Bless!
You need help. It's the soldiers who deserve that punishment.
We'll have to agree to disagree here.
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Peace "House M.D.",
Peace Jonny_K,
The same 'humane' westerners who electrocute animals to kill? Who allow hunting for fun? Who go around the world making wars for profit?
JK- First these are mostly remnants of conservatism. 2ndly there are people in the we3stWHO ACTIVELY SPEAK OUT AGAINST SUCH ACTIVITIES none of which is seen in the "islamic" world and thats exactly the problem. 3rdly none of the above is as way near as bad as what shariah law has in stock for human beings which calls for wife beastings, total isolation of women from mainstream society, killing anyone who leaves "islam" or its speaks out against its fundamental ideology, child abuse, rape inside marriage etc etc. It would be a life of living hell on earth.
You mean like the humane westerns who have killed 1 million iraqis, raped their land, and stolen their oil ?
JK- As mentioned people in the US and all over the west speak out against such attrocities and any such soldiers if found guilty will be punished severely. And much more "Muslims" go around killing themselves.
"Muslims" is not a title. What is the bible, it'a hadeeth itself.. Why is the west excused from their hadeeth?
JK- Whos talking about the Bible here? Who the hell told you the West basis its law on the Bible? Had that been the case it wouldve been shariah X 10. Here the laws are established through rigorous scientific testing.
Am I to take this seriously? Dude, there are 'extremists' in EVERY corner of the globe. In EVERY country, state, province, city, religion, ethnicity etc...
JK- But in the present world the most dangerous threat comes from radical "islam" and nothing else. You need to connect the dots or im sorry to say youll experience holocaustx10.
Oh please. Lest you forget that Osama bin laden was on the side of the Americans before they started playing world police. Google "Tim Osman" He and his associates were used by the CIA against the Russians. Ask yourself why they turned against the "West"?
JK- Well guess what? F*** Osama and al-qaeda. Theyr only a small group and it is pathetic to focus on them mainly. The real threat is MUCH MORE SUBTLE. It is those sheikhs in Saudia AND THE US ITSELF such as CAIR and other organisations which appear to be peaceful but obviously employing "taqiyya" to cunningly attack us all whilst the time is right. And then it would be too late. Man i know how they think. Listen to me at least. I WAS ONE OF THEM. NO WESTENER INCLUDING YOU was innocent to me. I was on the threshhold of killing you all had it not been for my enlightenment at the end of 2001.
That's ridiculous, why should the 'west' be allowed to have nuclear weapons?! The east has the right to protect themselves as much as the west does. Either both have the right, or neither do.
JK- Did i say the east? I meant radical "muslims". Israel, China and India have nuclear weapon and although im against that too, the same in the hand of radical "muslims" is 100 times more dangerous. Dont you get it?
You need help. It's the soldiers who deserve that punishment.
JK- Not only soldiers BUT COMBATANTS WHO FIGHT US AND/OR THOSE WHO INCITE OTHERS TO KILL like the "mullahs" in the masjids preaching hate and the "jihadists" who carry out their command.
We'll have to agree to disagree here.
JK- Not long ago i used to think just like you but ive opened my mind and saw the reality which is as much true IMHO as the theory of evolution as i gathered together the info and connected the dots. You have to wake up before its too late. GOD Bless!
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JK,
When your Kanzlerin Merkel gets shocked because somebody says that if it was Germany who killed those six million jews and other people, Germany should have given a country for them instead of stealing somebody else's country, and she gets angry and finds that most improper, and finds proper on the other hand that Palestine should be crucified to death for the west's sins, I suppose that shows how humane, fair, consciencious, modern and evolved the west is. Come on, please, don't take people for crazy idiots. We have travelled some ground since the WWII and the Reichstag fire, and quite a lot since 911. And don't bother throwing at us your "I have lived among those people and I know them" (where those people seem to be quite a pile of million) and as if you were the only person who has done that "feat". I, for one, have also lived among "those people", and I am a woman, and as you can see I am not dead, nor raped, nor battered, nor crushed, nor have taken s*** from anybody in the east or the west. I am alive to tell you that I fear much less those whom you portray as you do than a person who speaks like you, who if ever came to power, with that inhuman certainty in his possession of truth, we might find ourselves in the middle of another WWII, redeeming us of all impurity.
There are many people in this forum who are evolved, show humanity and fairness, humility and other praiseworthy traits, no need to spoil it adding fanatism to the mix.
And, please, if you answer this, be kind and do not use women as a propaganda tool. We are not tools nor bludgeoning weapons, and we are evolved enough to know when we are getting gentlemanly and brotherly helpfulness and when we are being used.
It may be completely useless, but I tell you anyway please, do something about how you handle your emotions and ideas. The way you do now will not give fruit. If you are sincere, and I believe so, may be you should ask guidance from the One who can give it.
Salaam and best wishes, for you and your many million of hated ones.
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i guess if we call them what they are we can't get so upset when they call us what we are... whatever that may be... so feel free to call whoever you want whatever you want, alen... just remember when the shoe is on the other foot it's not always a good fit P
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Peace "huruf"
JK,
When your Kanzlerin Merkel gets shocked because somebody says that if it was Germany who killed those six million jews and other people, Germany should have given a country for them instead of stealing somebody else's country, and she gets angry and finds that most improper, and finds proper on the other hand that Palestine should be crucified to death for the west's sins, I suppose that shows how humane, fair, consciencious, modern and evolved the west is. Come on, please, don't take people for crazy idiots. We have travelled some ground since the WWII and the Reichstag fire, and quite a lot since 911. And don't bother throwing at us your "I have lived among those people and I know them" (where those people seem to be quite a pile of million) and as if you were the only person who has done that "feat". I, for one, have also lived among "those people", and I am a woman, and as you can see I am not dead, nor raped, nor battered, nor crushed, nor have taken s*** from anybody in the east or the west. I am alive to tell you that I fear much less those whom you portray as you do than a person who speaks like you, who if ever came to power, with that inhuman certainty in his possession of truth, we might find ourselves in the middle of another WWII, redeeming us of all impurity.
JK- ho...ho..ho... hold your horses there "huruf". First i gotta clear up your misconception regarding anyone STEALING PALESTINIAN LAND. This is as ridiculous as it can get and one can only believe this should one have never looked outside the Mullah's propaganda box. The land which is now Israel NEVER FORMALLY BELONGED TO PALESTINE. Infact it was the BRITISH EMPIRE which "gave" the land to Palestine because at that time they wernt so good with Jews either and didnt want them to get that much power. But guess what? Britain aint the boss of the world anymore and surely doesnt get to decide who gets what land. On an international basis that land which is now Israel was PLAIN WASTELAND which later on the JEWISH PEOPLE WORKED HARD ON TO IRRIGATE and it flourished. And yes until that time the Palis didnt even bother about "their" land. It was only after they saw more and more Jews in their that they suddenly resorted to their "fellow" British appointed land for them. Do you see now how ridiculous this is? Now to clarify the rest of this stuff. I dont know how youve been treated but ill try to draw an analogy. Just like you my mom was also never battered or anything esle you described because ofcourse she never rebelled against Shariah law or openly declared how inhumane and unjust it is. Those are the woman who get it most. You might also be married to a more secular husband. You are/were lucky if that is the case and you should not ignore the situation of those women who are suffering immensely. I remember my mom once told me something which made me really upset. Pervez Musharraf, who now turns out to be a jerk because he merely played to be a democrat but thts another story, a year ago or so passed a law that "marital rape" should be recognized and women given more rights in tis regard. My mom said that why is he focusing on such MINOR issues. And this despite the fact that IVE ACTUALLY HEARD HER SAYING AT TIMES IT DIDNT GO ALONG WELL WITH MY FATHER "Son, THIS IS JUST LIKE TALIBAN RULE AND I DONT WANT IT." So you see its easy to say things when one is not in the same situation. You have to rid yourself off your pride once and for all and draw the line with these crooks AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT ORDINARY PEOPLE. IM TALKING ABOUT THE "IMAMS", "MULLAHS" , "SHEIKHS", the Elite, AND ANYONE WHO CARRIES OUT THEIR COMMANDS.
There are many people in this forum who are evolved, show humanity and fairness, humility and other praiseworthy traits, no need to spoil it adding fanatism to the mix.
JK- Please dont throw false accusations at me. This has nothing to do with fanaticism. Just connect the dots. If we dont do something to stop the Shariah Elite, wer all in deep trouble. Infact its not the Jews who run the world as they through their propaganda try to make us believe. IT IS THEM. AND YES BUSH ACTUALLY SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THEIR LACKEYS. Even conservatives are angry with Bush because he continues to call "islam(including hadith ofcourse)" a peaceful religion instead of exposing the Shariah for what it is. NO, he cant do that because the SHEIKHS surely would threaten his government by cutting off the oil supply. Dont you see now what the problem is? It aint the Jews or ther corrupt west whos the Boss. IT'S SHAYOOKH AL WAHAB AS-SAUDIA AL MUNAFIQOON AL KUBARAAA(the greatttt hypocritical/two faced double crossing saudi wahabi sheikhs) WHO ARE.
And, please, if you answer this, be kind and do not use women as a propaganda tool. We are not tools nor bludgeoning weapons, and we are evolved enough to know when we are getting gentlemanly and brotherly helpfulness and when we are being used.
JK- I hope now youd rethink on the statements youve just made because if not i really take it as an insult now. If your so unsure of what i tell you, go inside the shariah active areas or even not so active areas and observe random women carefully. Maybe then youll wake up.
It may be completely useless, but I tell you anyway please, do something about how you handle your emotions and ideas. The way you do now will not give fruit. If you are sincere, and I believe so, may be you should ask guidance from the One who can give it.
Salaam and best wishes, for you and your many million of hated ones.
JK- You bet i am sincere and thats why i get so mad and i believe there are times when i can rightfully do so. If you dont wake up other people will GW, willr ealize the threat and shut down this damned Shariah Eilte once and for all. GOD Bless!