Eid wishes - your reaction?
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Peace
How do people react when family/friends etc. wish you 'happy eid'? A festival which I have not been able to find any mention of in the Quran, a festival which is (in this eid) associated with mindless rituals in a place which has no Quranic basis .
My personal reaction is, if it happens with people who know my religious preference is to say, sorry but Eid has no relevence to the Quran and is not something that I celebrate because Islam involves following God alone in the Quran. In fact, I get quite angry when these people wish such a thing on me.
How does everyone else react?
Roshan
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Greetings Roshan,
I sympathize with your feelings on this topic. It is uncomfortable. I try to avoid it at all costs. Fortunately, hardly anyone has wished me happy eid, face to face, most have been via SMS, so I just ignore it. However, my husband has been watching hajj rituals off and on for the past few days on TV. That's really starting to grate on my nerves, but I have said nothing out of not wanting to start an argument. I only pray that he one day will 'see' and understand. What else to do? I keep hoping that I'll soon be aloof enough from the fray of this whole thing to just overlook it, but I haven't reached that stage as of yet.
Anyone else faced with this or bothered by this situation?
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.Reply to Eid Greeting is " I feel sorry for you!"
Well, I feel sorry for you.
Where does Quran forbid Eid!
I can't wait for Eid, you make it what it is. For me it is a day
- When I remeber and thank God in a special way
- I remember the poor and needy
- Make peace with those I haven't spoken to.
- Make new friends.
... and much more
How can that be UnQuranic.
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Peace,
There is nothing wrong with greeting somebody "Happy Eid". I don't participate in it personally, but hey to each his own.
I agree with Burhan.
Quran also doesn't speak of birthdays, doesn't mean we can't celebrate them...
Let's recall
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Khalifa
When greeted with a greeting, you shall respond with a better greeting or at least an equal one. GOD reckons all things.
"Progressive Muslims"
And if you are greeted with a greeting, then return an even better greeting or return the same. God is Reckoning over all things. -
Peace,
There is nothing wrong with greeting somebody "Happy Eid". I don't participate in it personally, but hey to each his own.
I agree with Burhan.
Quran also doesn't speak of birthdays, doesn't mean we can't celebrate them...
Let's recall
486
Khalifa
When greeted with a greeting, you shall respond with a better greeting or at least an equal one. GOD reckons all things.
"Progressive Muslims"
And if you are greeted with a greeting, then return an even better greeting or return the same. God is Reckoning over all things.Salaam
I think we must not be narrow minded in our approach, when dealing with those who beleive differently; my Christian friends wish me a merry Xmas and I return a similar greeting. Who is rightly guided will be ultimately be judged by Allah(swt)
Happy holidays
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.Reply to Eid Greeting is " I feel sorry for you!"
wow
damn! and people get on my case here... last night we went to a friends house for Eid and talked about the Deen, Quran, etc. etc... if some folks think that's a bad thing then... wowEid mabarak! peace
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Nothing wrong with eid, but some sheep & livestock may feel otherwise. Didn't have a happy eid, thats for sure. Being woken in the middle of REM sleep isn't nice.
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Peace,
There is nothing wrong with greeting somebody "Happy Eid". I don't participate in it personally, but hey to each his own.
I agree with Burhan.
Quran also doesn't speak of birthdays, doesn't mean we can't celebrate them...
Let's recall
486
Khalifa
When greeted with a greeting, you shall respond with a better greeting or at least an equal one. GOD reckons all things.
"Progressive Muslims"
And if you are greeted with a greeting, then return an even better greeting or return the same. God is Reckoning over all things.Peace
Yes, your quote was exactly the sort of thing I was looking for.
As for Christmas, this is the obvious point that can be raised. However the argument for that would go along the lines of it is (whatever the Christians say) more of a secular festival that signifies late December than anything religious (Santa versus Jesus ).
However, would you be happy if, for example, people wishes you 'happy hannuka'? Wouldn't you say,'Err...actually I am not Jewish'. What about happy Diwali?
For me, when those who know (put perhaps do not understand) my religious choices wish me a happy 'eid', for me it is an attempt by them to pretend I adhere to their religion and hence I find it quite insulting.
Roshan
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peace all,
If I am greeted in person, I would most likely return the greeting. If by any other means (e.g. email, sms) I dont return it.
Sometimes, you can return a greeting in a generic form, e.g. if someone says "Merry Christmas" to you, you can reply with "Happy Holidays / Season's Greetings to you to" etc.
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"I don't do Eid". That's my reply. Hey, it's a conversation starter as any. ;D And that goes for Christmas and Hanukkah and... what the heck is kwanzaa? ??? It's funny that kwanza is a swahili word and I've never heard of such a celebration in East Africa.
Oh, and another thing, Christmas traditions involves cutting down of trees on a massive scale. Not sure what else happens in Hanukkah, but I know there's some candle burning. And with Eid, there's a mass slaughter of goats. The amount of goats and sheep killed on this "holy day" is just unbelievable. tempt What is with these celebrations and destruction?
PEACE
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Peace to all,
Sure it's wrong to kill so many animals, cut down trees etc...
But the problem is this happens every day of the year. If these holidays didn't exist this would still be happening. You are also ignoring that they donate a lot of the meat to the needy as well.
The concept of returning the greeting is being nice, respectful etc... Do you expect anyone to take you and your beliefs seriously, if you respond with rudeness? Surely, I wouldn't take anyone seriously if they responded with such attitude.
It has nothing to do with what we believe. When we show the better example, people will follow.
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I reply with "Allah yebarek feek God bless", which could be for usual greetings. I greeted my kids with "Eid mubarak" because they know my belief and know I just greet them without any link to a religious/sunni belief. Otherwise I neither initiate nor respond with Eid mubarak.
I spent the first two days with my friends, who know very well I do not celebrate this and I do not believe in hajj the way they do, nor do I pray the way they do. The interesting thing is that they are quite convinced by my ideas and proofs, and even defend them, but they are too used to their way they cannot change it. During the time I was with them we had many discussions and we agreed -upon their suggestion- to meet once a week specially to study the quraan without reference to traditional interpretation or hadiths (which they seem to have lost faith in anyway. It's easier this way as it does not involve action.
Last night, on the Sudanese TV, there was an anouncement for a program, and the would-be-speaker said (You see, Muhammad's name is written at the same level as Allah's, even the shahadaa "I witness that there is no God but God" is not complete and cannot stand alone without "I witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God", to which my friends shouted in horror What an idolator! I was very pleased to this reaction and felt that the input is doing more than what I see of celebrating Eid.
Celebrating Eid, as I see it, is just an excuse to have free time and meet each other, and is not more religious than Christmas celebrated by atheists. I received a Xmas and new year greeting from an ex-jew atheist, sent to friends of differnt faiths, in which he says (to all our friends, all over the world , what ever religion they are , we wish you all
merry criststmas
happy holidays
and a beautyful new year.you are always in our heart.
love and peace)And on the mention of Xmas, my son is coming from Canada to "celebrate Xmas and new year", or actually, during a free 3-day holiday, two weekends and only three extra days counted towards his annual leave, with us. I am preparing a "traditional" Xmas dinner, replacing the turkey with a pheasant (turkey is too large for 4 persons and is not as delicious ;D).
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Yes, similar to what Samia said and actually like this time of year with the music and all.
Most are clueless about the Qur?an as are Christians about the history of their religion.
Last week had dinner with a Christian co-worker and fanatic Bush supporter who mentioned a solution was to spread pig parts over Mecca and blow up/nuke everybody in the Mideast.
To this I replied Saudis are Bush friends too and what about ?Love your enemies??
I didn?t disclose my faith and argued silly things like earth/universe was not 6,000 years old (there are trees older than that?lol) and other things ? futile and the beginning of Qur?an comes to mind?
Alif Lam Mim. (1) This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah. (2) Who believe in the Unseen, are steadfast in prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them. (3) And who believe in the Revelation sent to thee, and sent before thy time, and (in their hearts) have the assurance of the Hereafter. (4) They are on (true guidance), from their Lord and it is these who will prosper. (5) As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe. (6) Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing And on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur). (7)
Also, being that my name literally translates as Holiday or Eid, I?m kind of used to the greeting. D
Happy Holiday!
Peace
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Peace House,
Peace to all,
Sure it's wrong to kill so many animals, cut down trees etc...
But the problem is this happens every day of the year. If these holidays didn't exist this would still be happening. You are also ignoring that they donate a lot of the meat to the needy as well.
Yes it does happen everyday even without these celebrations, but just imagine the impact it has on our enviroment. Think of the butterfly effect. Over 2 million people go for the hajj, and they slaughter for each of those people plus some slaughter for others who didn't make it... and thats just in Saudi Arabia. As for the poor being fed, trust me, most of this doesn't reach the deserving. I have seen it for myself. They ship this meat via air cargo to other countries like Kenya, for example. The embassy send it out to various organizations and they re-distribute it to the nearest places like orphanages or some such place. Note, these places have to have freezers to be able to take the meat. Anyone who has a freezer?... isn't that needy. For them it's a nice meal, but believe me, they haven't been going hungry. So the guys in the arid lands starving, are still starving, even if 2 million EXTRA goats were killed that day.
The concept of returning the greeting is being nice, respectful etc... Do you expect anyone to take you and your beliefs seriously, if you respond with rudeness? Surely, I wouldn't take anyone seriously if they responded with such attitude.
It has nothing to do with what we believe. When we show the better example, people will follow.
I understand that and I don't disagree with it, really. But I don't believe replying that I dont celebrate Eid as being rude. I guess it's in the manner it's done that's important, and also who you're talking to.
Example;
Person 1 Eid Mubarak!
Person 2 Eid Mubarak to you too.
End of subject and they both happily go on their merry way, content with themselves.Or...
Person 1 Eid Mubarak! (knowing person to is a 'muslim'
Person 2 I don't celebrate Eid...
Person 1 Really? Why not?...
And there's a chance of something there.This second conversation actually took place with my brother and a bank clerk... he ended up talking to her for about 15-20 minutes and now she's asking him for more information. She couldn't believe she had never heard such a thing as people who don't follow traditional hadeeth.
Just an observation. peace
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Peace Zenje,
I can see your point(s) and really can't find much I disagree with.
I will say the one other positive aspect is though so many goats/cows are killed, at least they are killed humanely and not electrocuted/tortured to death. That's that many animals that weren't tortured to death, although that's not much of a consolation.
peace
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Peace to all,
OK I have to ask, what exactly is EId Mubarak, I thought this was to celebrate the end of fasting of Ramadan, is there another celebration we should be doing, and what is it for. I tried to do some research and i found something saying it is required from the Quran.
Thanks in advance,
Kurt
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Peace to all,
OK I have to ask, what exactly is EId Mubarak, I thought this was to celebrate the end of fasting of Ramadan, is there another celebration we should be doing, and what is it for. I tried to do some research and i found something saying it is required from the Quran.
Thanks in advance,
Kurt
Peace Kurt
The second 'Eid' is also known as Eid ul adha (I think). It is supposed to commemorate the story that one of Abraham's wives was with her son (either Ismail or Issac, cannot remember which one) and they ran between 'al safa' and 'al marwah' and then struck a rock which gushed forth with water. This water is called 'Zam Zam' water.
This story has no/little basis in the Quran. The only basis it has is that Abraham had two sons called Ismail and Isaac.
Roshan
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Peace,
You were close Bro Roshan )
But, it's based on the story (from the hadeeth, "incidentally" nearly exactly the same story in the bible) of Abraham almost sacrificing his son and his son being replaced by a goat or a sheep, can't remember for sure which one. It's Ismail in the hadeeth, and Isaac in the bible.
So they do it to pay homage to that.
Of course, quran paints a different picture, as usual.
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turkey is too large for 4 persons
Not if I'm one of the four people! ;D I love Christmas dinner eat
Pheasant is tastier, though, but I'm more of a goose man myself.
