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Financial responsibility of the children.

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    RaseemNaqqaash
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    Salaams

    Exactly!! I pray that IQO softens his approach, as he has got lot to offer and I am not sure if he does hold the Sunni belief as man Sunni's do not think like him. I can not blame his culture because from that same culture we have seen the likes of Mohammad Ali and Malcolm X. I only wish that he would deflate his inflated ego and join us for the betterment of all. peace

    Salaam Huruf
    You have spoken for most of us here bravo

    Best regards
    farida

    Peace sister farida

    In time, even Malcolm X turned away from such extremist belief, to a more balanced view of Islam, and was indeed, highly critical of those who shared his former beliefs. I view him as proof that people's opinions can change for the better, and that they should then be judged by those new beliefs, rather than their old ones.

    Peace.

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      siki
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      come on ,, The guy (iqo) just demands , that you support your views from quran, not what you think should be right, and i absolutely agree with him on this.

      It is infact poor on our part that we do not put in efforts, and hence are unable to research, and find arguments in support of our views from the Book itself.

      siki

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        come on ,, The guy (iqo) just demands , that you support your views from quran, not what you think should be right, and i absolutely agree with him on this.

        It is infact poor on our part that we do not put in efforts, and hence are unable to research, and find arguments in support of our views from the Book itself.

        siki

        Salaam Siki

        Please tell me what makes you think we are not supporting views from the Qur?an. This thread was started to get to an understanding regarding financial responsibility for children from the Qur?anic point of view but IQO made it a gender issue. I hope he turns his attention back to this subject again, instead of asking irrelevant questions like
        Then what is you opinion who think that "Quran /Allah permits/allows 'satanic acts'"??. confused

        Salaam brother RN,

        In time, even Malcolm X turned away from such extremist belief, to a more balanced view of Islam, and was indeed, highly critical of those who shared his former beliefs. I view him as proof that people's opinions can change for the better, and that they should then be judged by those new beliefs, rather than their old ones.

        You are right about Malcolm X I do not believe we can change anyone; the change has to come from within. I have a feeling that bro IQO is a loving and soft person around his family (chicken) and to compensate for that he puts up that bossy act on this forum.

        Best regards,
        farida

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          RaseemNaqqaash
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          Salaam brother RN,
          You are right about Malcolm X I do not believe we can change anyone; the change has to come from within. I have a feeling that bro IQO is a loving and soft person around his family (chicken) and to compensate for that he puts up that bossy act on this forum.

          Best regards,
          farida

          Salaam sister Farida,
          Indeed, change must come from within, and when it does, it is a truly glorious experience. Indeed, we cannot, and indeed, should not, try and change anyone. Al Qur'an states there is no compulsion in religion, and the sura about unbeleivers is incredibly tollerant of differences in opinion. All we can do, is act as messengers, and pass the message on to those who will be open to it.

          As for brother IQO, I would not guess about his home life or circumstances, but I think that his choice to use the title of Imam is very telling about his views about himself, others, and his interperetations of Al Qur'an

          Peace.

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            come on ,, The guy (iqo) just demands , that you support your views from quran, not what you think should be right, and i absolutely agree with him on this.

            It is infact poor on our part that we do not put in efforts, and hence are unable to research, and find arguments in support of our views from the Book itself.

            siki

            Even if you support your views with quraanic verses/ways of word usage and they do not conform to his understanding he accuses you of manipulation and bias. I agree he has a lot to offer, and I agreed with him on more points than we disagreed, but I do not understand why, when it comes to polygamy and men's/women's role he loses it completely.
            If you read his earlier posts, he was very nice and understanding, even in discussing polygamy. Maybe too many people attacking him puts him on the defensive and makes him more aggressive. If we are all calm and soft, aggression will not last long. We should learn to calm each other and ignore the harsh language in their posts. They will definitely give it up at the end. Remeber Violence begets violence.

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              Salaam sister Farida,
              Indeed, change must come from within, and when it does, it is a truly glorious experience. Indeed, we cannot, and indeed, should not, try and change anyone. Al Qur'an states there is no compulsion in religion, and the sura about unbeleivers is incredibly tollerant of differences in opinion. All we can do, is act as messengers, and pass the message on to those who will be open to it.

              As for brother IQO, I would not guess about his home life or circumstances, but I think that his choice to use the title of Imam is very telling about his views about himself, others, and his interperetations of Al Qur'an

              Peace.

              Salaam Brother RN

              I respect you do not want to dwell on someone?s personal life and that is an honourable attitude.

              I have noticed a softer family side of IQO in another thread, where he talks about his children with a lot of affection, but there are other children too, whose parents (mostly it?s the fathers) have no regards for their duty as parents. A small example can be seen in the thread on the subject of fathers in the parents sections.

              And as Samia said Violence begets violence so love humility and a greater understanding should be encouraged. I would hence invite brother IQO to pack away his anger and join the discussion, in the interest of children so that the parents may understand their duties as the state grants them more rights.

              Best regards
              farida

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                Even if you support your views with quraanic verses/ways of word usage and they do not conform to his understanding he accuses you of manipulation and bias. I agree he has a lot to offer, and I agreed with him on more points than we disagreed, but I do not understand why, when it comes to polygamy and men's/women's role he loses it completely.
                If you read his earlier posts, he was very nice and understanding, even in discussing polygamy. Maybe too many people attacking him puts him on the defensive and makes him more aggressive. If we are all calm and soft, aggression will not last long. We should learn to calm each other and ignore the harsh language in their posts. They will definitely give it up at the end. Remeber Violence begets violence.

                ;;; I agree;;;

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