Why were these unique versions of the Qur'an later destroyed by fire?
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Salam Bahman,
If you are so sure that the answers you have recieved are incorrect and you believe the opposite,
then why do you continue to ask the question
(in large bold scrolling letters no less lol)?Salam,
Arnab -
Salam Bahman,
If you are so sure that the answers you have recieved are incorrect and you believe the opposite,
then why do you continue to ask the question
(in large bold scrolling letters no less lol)?Salam,
ArnabJust answer the question Yes or No.
If no then tell us where is the Original? -
Salam,
Belalhammad already answered your question
The Quran you are looking for is in your house (Or in your hand). Please, Relax and trust your Lord when he promised to protect the Quran
Salam,
Arnab -
Peace
I told you before it is a fake Hadith;
So you mean it was not burnt . Ok great
but anyway there are many times people burned copies from the Quran,
You mean the copies burnt not ORIGINAL which was scribed by hand of Prophet?
So where is the ORIGINAL?but there are million of other copies.
Are all those million copied free of wanted or unwanted spelling and text mistakes.?
How about this copy. how this one is not protected wen 128 and a129 is removed. Why is not protected?Relax
I am ok 7431
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Peace
So you mean it was not burnt . Ok great
You mean the copies burnt not ORIGINAL which was scribed by hand of Prophet?
So where is the ORIGINAL?Are all those million copied free of wanted or unwanted spelling and text mistakes.?
How about this copy. how this one is not protected wen 128 and a129 is removed. Why is not protected?
I am ok 7431)
Peace.I told you before, Guarding and protecting the Quran is God's Job; Only him! no angel, nor prophet, nor Messenger, nor you, nor Rashad Kalifa were asked by God to help him. And if you insist to do a Job that is not yours, you will go astray; I told you that before, and now; you will go astray, and you will make others go astray!!!
When I stand in front of God in the Judgment Day, I will till him that
"I did not Listen to Bahman nor Rashad Kalifa because you (God) told me that you will guard the Quran"Simple as that.
PeaceWhat of the Shiites claim that Uthmann removed 25% of the text when the variations were burned?
Peace
Another False Hadith; Quite listening to conjecture (rumors), and listen to the truth from your Lord. No one can tamper the Quran, because God is Guarding it.
Wert thou to follow the common run of those on earth, they will lead thee away from the Way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture they do nothing but lie. (6-116)
But most of them follow nothing but conjecture truly conjecture can be of no avail against Truth. Verily Allah is well aware of all that they do. (10-36)
No one can tamper the Quran, because God is guarding it.
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I told you before, Guarding and protecting the Quran is God's Job; Only him! no angel, nor prophet, nor Messenger, nor you, nor Rashad Kalifa were asked by God to help him. And if you insist to do a Job that is not yours, you will go astray; I told you that before, and now; you will go astray, and you will make others go astray!!!
Peace
Ok I notice your misunderstanding the truth and you never understood the role of code 19. This code belongs to God Alone in His message 7430. No human can design such secure system interlocking text into code 19 for protection. All those messages that God authored will protect it is code 19 which clearly says over it is 19 if in following verse 7431 was author in We chose this number for protection of this book.
Then we had thousand Hadith and wrong interpretation when this creature was not available to see the truth.
What bothers you about this code.
What makes different for you if I and many others converted and believe in Quran Alone just because of this code.
What is stopping you to remove this shell and think more openly and disregard all previous learning like ?fake Hadith? or ?right Hadith? .
Why you do not show your real name hide under cyber id when you talk about people with real name like Rashad.
Do you think that death and birth of us is in hand of people read these posts. ?
Wake up before be late. Tomorrow is late.
7431 )When I stand in front of God in the Judgment Day, I will till him that
"I did not Listen to Bahman nor Rashad Kalifa because you (God) told me that you will guard the Quran"How you stand front of God when is visible. Is it another wrong translation or is your own vision?
How ever God will tell you Did Bahman asked you to read these verses.
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You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.This Quran could not possibly be authored by other than GOD. It confirms all previous messages, and provides a fully detailed scripture. It is infallible, for it comes from the Lord of the universe. If they say, "He fabricated it," say, "Then produce one sura like these, and invite whomever you wish, other than GOD, if you are truthful." Indeed, they have rejected this without studying and examining it, and before understanding it. Thus did those before them disbelieve. Therefore, note the consequences for the transgressors1037-39
"studying and examining it"
Do you know how to examine it ?Then explain it , but i remind you that I do not know Arabic well like you and there are another 7 billions like me.
I can not examine this to see if is right or wrong . I examine it with code and is forged when do not have any code. But I understand this with my little Arabic knowledge and understand this as is so simple that all you need to know how to -/*x, no formula ,no equation.Another False Hadith; Quite listening to conjecture (rumors), and listen to the truth from your Lord. No one can tamper the Quran, because God is Guarding it.
How?
Wert thou to follow the common run of those on earth, they will lead thee away from the Way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture they do nothing but lie. (6-116)
You mean like they lie like this ?
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=15142.msg142845#msg142845
But most of them follow nothing but conjecture truly conjecture can be of no avail against Truth. Verily Allah is well aware of all that they do. (10-36)
No one can tamper the Quran, because God is guarding it.
This means you claim that Quran never burnt .
Great you will be soon famouse if you know where is the ORIGINAL ?
Do you know what Means O R I G I N A L ?
Time is precious and people are tired for such parroting and repeating none sense with no evidence and proof. -
Are you saying that this statement is false?- the original revelations were written on leaves, bones, whatever could be written on.
Now Bahman has me wondering!! Where is the original hand written Quran?
Peace pvb,
We could wait longer and may they find the Original. )
Avoiding chnaging topic I am tranfering my response in this tread to here.Salaam Bahman
You did not complete Ayman's sentence
The underlined phrase is the "masjid al-haram". It is not "made", whether of stone or anything else.
Peace Samia and thank you for your note. I am learning and sometime Iam slow, Now I understnd that Ayman means no phisical focal point just
the inviolable insitution of obedience,
Such obedience should be based on what source?
I see many stay away from this topic, they know as soon as they accept the Original was destroyed then their claim for protection has no more value and only way to prove such protection is Solid Code. God knows future and knew Satan will destroy the original but never could find secrect of 7 pairs up to the time this screen ready to display on www for those that are educated and are in search for truth not those that are not able to abondon their false learning.Peace )
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Peace
The original Qur'an is with God. It is said several times at the beginning of many Suras "This is the Scripture we have SENT DOWN" so the ORIGINAL is with God, The Lord of Mercy.
I have no idea where the first one on earth is, but it says in the Qur'an that"We gave it to you in gradual revelation."
2532This I believe allows ease of memorization, Arabic is a language designed for recitation. Arabs were reknowned for recitation of poems by heart. Muhammed (pbuh) memorised the Qur'an just as those believers around him. It has been memorised since.
Its pure guesswork to try and say where the first Qur'an is as if you were there or that it was burnt. But we do believe it had been memorised, Muhammed memorised it, people around him did (although it is no ones duty to preserve the Qur'an except God's). Faithful believers believe the Qur'an was preserved from this point on. Those who don't do not believe this is the case and it was open to corruption, do not believe in this Scripture and that it was God's duty to preserve the Qur'an. They are entitled to their opinion.
It is not through historical verification that I came to be one devoted to God. It is through the message in the Qur'an and the terrifying voice that resonates when I read it. I believe that is sufficient for me. "We hear and obey", Glory be to God.
Peace
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Peace
The original Qur'an is with God. It is said several times at the beginning of many Suras "This is the Scripture we have SENT DOWN" so the ORIGINAL is with God, The Lord of Mercy.
I have no idea where the first one on earth is, but it says in the Qur'an that"We gave it to you in gradual revelation."
2532This I believe allows ease of memorization, Arabic is a language designed for recitation. Arabs were reknowned for recitation of poems by heart. Muhammed (pbuh) memorised the Qur'an just as those believers around him. It has been memorised since.
Its pure guesswork to try and say where the first Qur'an is as if you were there or that it was burnt. But we do believe it had been memorised, Muhammed memorised it, people around him did (although it is no ones duty to preserve the Qur'an except God's). Faithful believers believe the Qur'an was preserved from this point on. Those who don't do not believe this is the case and it was open to corruption, do not believe in this Scripture and that it was God's duty to preserve the Qur'an. They are entitled to their opinion.
It is not through historical verification that I came to be one devoted to God. It is through the message in the Qur'an and the terrifying voice that resonates when I read it. I believe that is sufficient for me. "We hear and obey", Glory be to God.
Peace
Yes.
The best argument of any book is what it says, not what others say about it.
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the original revelations were written on leaves, bones, whatever could be written on.
How about paper/parchment/papyrus? This was in circulation since the ancient Egyptian civilization.
Has any excavatin found a bone or a stone with quraanic writing on it, or even non quranic from that era? -
http//www.biblefellowship.org/BibleAndLife/bibleandlife_2006_4.htm
"One of the Dead Sea scrolls found in cave #1 at Qumran dated at 125 B.C. contains the entire prophecy of Isaiah. This scroll was penned over 1,000 years before any of the manuscripts (Masoretic text) previously possessed."
There have to be original earth copies somewhere, unless Uthmann burned the wrong ones!!!
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Peace all,
Once again i must stress the point that code-19 defines the boundaries of the Quran. Ok say i prove statements of the Quran because they are scientifically accurate thus matching with reality and even prove the internal consistency of the Quran. BUT wht about the verses WHICH APPARENTLY do not match reality at any moment like there are 7 heavens or even that Idris, Saleh and Shuaib existed and did whats mentioned in the Quran for example? HOW do we know that is part of the Quran? How do we get the connection? To summarize if we say find out that verses a.b,c from different places in the Quran are correct and have been proven, how do we show that verses x,y,z are also whilst theyve not yet been proven? I say the only possible way is via MATHEMATICAL INDUCTION OR a CODE WHICH BINDS THEM ALL TOGETHER. GOD Bless! -
Peace again all,
To give you an example lets say somebody introduces/recites a verse after the 7th verse of sura 1, which now ends with "wa la dhaaleen", in the following way
"wa la ta'abudoona minallahi ahada fatakoona minal kaafireen" which translates as "and do no worship anyone besides GOD lest you become disbelievers/rejectors". Technically this verse would be correct and it would not contradict reality. INFACT neither would it contradict other parts of the Quran. SO WHY then wont we accept it as part of the Quran should we hear it like now? GOD Bless! -