salaat=programming/conditioning
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Peace be upon you,
I will list all occurences of salaat to show that salaat = programming/conditioning. What is it that we are programming/conditioning? It is the subconcious(nafs) which is responsible for CARRYING OUT the things we do in life. We can se that in many examples where we say to ourselves ..for example..I need to correct my diet, but the subconcious says "nope" we will contine to eat fried foods and candy even though it undermines our health. Salaat=programming PREVENTS those actions/deeds. ANd this is what religion is all about, shaping of behavior!
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By the subconcious(nafs), he straightened her, so he put inside it/so he implanted in it its debauchery/its corruption(wrong) , and its right, Truly he succeeds that purifies it, And he fails that corrupts it!Life flows through our beings just like electricity flows through household appliances, the effects of that "electricity" are determined by how the appliance is programmed. You are going to do what you are programmed/conditioned to do, but YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AND POWER to program your subconciius to manifest any type of behavior. Let us begin.
First lets just ponder over these verses with the correct understanding. (if I have missed any verses please bring them foward so I can add them)(23) Those who believe with the unseen and they maintain the programming/conditioning and from what We provided for them they spend.
(243) And maintain the programming/conditioning and bring forth the purification and bow with the bowing.
(245) And seek help with the patience and the programming/conditioning, and that it truly is a burden except on the humble.
(283) And when We took the male children of Israel's covenant, "Do not serve except The God, and with the parents a goodness, and of the relations, and the orphans, and the oppressed, and say to the people goodness, and maintain the programming/conditioning and bring forth the purification." Then you turned away except a few from you and you are objecting/opposing .
(2110) And maintain the programming/conditioning and bring forth the purification and what you advance to your subconcious(nafs) from goodness, you find it at The God, truly the God (is) with what you do, seeing.
(2125) And when We made the House (as) a strength to the people, and (a) safety/security, and they take from Abraham's position (spiritual level), one who programmed/conditioned, and We recommended to Abraham and Ishmael "That cleanse My House for the circlers/walkers around , and the devoting/dedicating , and the bowing prostrators(those who humbly hear and obey).
(2153) You, those who believed, seek help with the patience and the programming/conditioning , truly the God (is) with the patient.
(2157) Those, on them programming/conditioning(salawatun) from their Lord and a mercy , and those are the guided.
(2177) The righteousness is not that you turn your faces facing the east, and the west, and but the righteousness (is) who believed with The God, and the ending time, and the controlled and the book, and the announcers, and gave the possession on his love (to it), (to) of the relations, and the orphans, and the oppressed, and the traveler, and the askers, and in the slaves (freeing) , and maintained the programming/conditioning , and gave/brought the charity/purification , and the fulfilling with the promise/contract if they promised/made a contract, and the patient in the misery/hardship and the calamity/disastrous distress , and (during the) time of the war/hardship ,those are who were truthful, and those, those are the fearing and obeying (God).
(223 Guard on the programming, the balancing programming, and maintain to the God devoutly.
(2277) That those who believed and did the righteous deeds, and maintained the programming/conditioning , and brought forth the purification, for them at their Lord (is) their reward, and no fear on them and nor they be sad.
(339) So the controlled called him while he maintained programming/conditioning in the sanctuary "Truly The God announces good new to you with John confirming with a word from the God and a master and restricting himself (chaste), and a prophet from the righteous people."
(443) You, you those who believed, do not approach the programming/conditioning and you are intoxicated, until you know what you are saying, and nor distant from God/impure , except crossing a path, until you wash yourselves with water , and if you were sick/diseased or on a long distance travel, or any of you came from the toilet or you touched repeatedly the women, so you did not find water, so wipe your hands and face with dust , pure/good dust, so wipe with your faces and your hands, truly The God is often pardoning, forgiving.
(477) Did you not see to those who were said to them, "Prevent/stop your hands and maintain the programming/conditioning , and bring forth the purification." So when the fighting was written on them, then a group from them fear the people, as the God's fear, or stronger fear, and they said, "Our Lord, for what (did) You write/decree on us the fighting, if only You delayed us to (a) near term." Say, "The present world's enjoyment (is) little, and the end (is) best to who feared and obeyed, and you do (will) not be caused injustice (as little as) a cleft in a seed."
(4101) And if you moved in the land, so offense/guilt is not on you that you shorten/reduce from the programming/conditioning if you feared that those who disbelieved betray/torture you, truly the disbelievers are to you an evident enemy.
(4102) And if you were in them, so you started for them the programming/conditioning , so a group from them should maintain with you, and they should take their weapons/arms, so if they prostrated, so they be from behind you, and another group should come (that) they did not program, so they program with you, and they should take their caution, and their weapons/arms; those who disbelieved, wished if you ignore/neglect your weapons/arms, and your goods, so they lean on you one bend, and no offense/guilt (is) on you if mild harm was with you from rain or you were sick/diseased, that you lay your weapons/arms, and take your caution, truly The God prepared to the disbelievers a humiliating torture.
(4103) So if you accomplished the programming/conditioning , so remember The God standing, and sitting, and on your sides, so if you became secured, so maintain the programming/conditioning , truly the programming/conditioning is on the believers a timed book.
(4142) Truly the hypocrites deceive The God, and He is deceiving them, and if they maintained the programming/conditioning , they maintained lazily, they pretend/show off (to) the people, and they do not remember The God except a little.
(4162) But the affirmed in the knowledge from them, and the believers, they believe with what was descended to you, and what was descended from before you, and the maintaining (of) the programming/conditioning , and the bringing forth (of) the purification , and the believing with The God, and the End Day, those, We will bring them a great reward.
(56) You, those who believed, if you approached towards the programming/conditioning , so wash your faces and your hands to the elbows, and rub/wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles, and if you were unclean, so be cleaned, and if you were sick or on (a) journey, or one of you came from the toilet, or you touched and felt repeatedly the women, so you did not find water, wipe your hands and face with good dust, so rub/wipe your faces and your hands from it, The God does not want to put on you strain, and but He wants to cleanse you and to complete His blessing on you, perhaps you be grateful.
(512) And The God had taken Israel's male children?s promise, and We sent from them twelve chiefs, and The God said, "I am with you, if you maintain the programming/conditioning , and you brought forth the purification, and you believed with My messengers and you supported/aided them, and you lent The God a good loan, I will substitute from you your sins and I will enter you (in) gardens, the rivers flow from beneath it, so who disbelieved after that, from you, so (he) had misguided the path."
(555) Truly your guardians (are) The God, and His messenger; and those who believed. They maintain the programming/conditioning , and they bring forth the purification, and they are bowing.
(55 And if you called to the programming/conditioning , they took it mockingly and (as) amusement, they truly are a people (that) do not comprehend.
(591) Truly the satan wants that he makes the animosity and the intense hatred fall between you, in (through use of) the intoxicants and the gambling, and he prevents you from The God's remembrance, and from the programming/conditioning , so are you stopping?
(5106) You, those who believed, testimony between you if the death attended any of you (at the) time of the bequest, (bring) two of justice from you or two others from other than you, if you, you moved in the Earth, so the death's disaster struck you , you withhold them from after the programming/conditioning , so they swear with The God, ? If you become doubtful we do not buy volunteer (ourselves) with it a price, and even if (he or she was) of the relations/near, and we do not hide The God's witness , truly we are then from the sinners."
(672) And that maintained the programming/conditioning and fear and obey Him, and He is who to Him you are being gathered.
(692) And that (is) a book , We descended it blessed, confirming what (is) between his hands, and to warn (the) mother of cities and who (is) around it, and those who believe with the end , they believe with it, and they are, on their programming/conditioning , observing .
(6162) Say "Truly my programming/conditioning and my methods, and my life, and my death, (is) to the creations Lord."
(7170) And those who hold fast with The Book , and maintain the programming/conditioning, truly We do not waste the reformers reward.
(83) Those who maintain the programming/conditioning and from what We provided for them they spend.
(835) And their programming/conditioning at the House was not except whistling and clapping, so experience the torture with what you were disbelieving.
(95) So if the restricted months passed, so fight the partner takers where you found them, and take them and restrict them and be concerned and prepared for them (in) every lookout, so if they repented, and maintained the programming/conditioning and brought forth the purification, so free their path, Truly The God (is) forgiving, merciful.
(911) So if they repented and maintained the programming/conditioning and brought forth the purification, so (they are) your brothers in the system, and We explain the signs to a people knowing.
(91 Truly give life to the God's places of prostration (those) who believed with The God and the End Day, and maintained the programming/conditioning, and brought forth the purification and did not fear except The God, so perhaps that those they be from the guided.
(954) And nothing prevented them that their expenditures be accepted from them, except that they disbelieved with The God, and with His messenger and they do not come (to) the programming/conditioning except while they are lazy, and they do not spend except while they are reluctant.
(971) And the believers (Male) and believers (Female) some of them (are) guardians (to) some, they order with the generosity , and they forbid from the defiance of The God and His orders ,and they maintain the programming/conditioning, and they bring forth the purification and they obey The God and His messenger, those, The God will have mercy upon them, truly The God (is) mighty , wise.
(999) And from the Arabs who believes with The God and the End Day, and takes what he spends (as) approachment to The God, and the messenger's programming/conditioning. Is it not an approachment to The God for them? The God will make them enter in His mercy, truly The God (is) forgiving, merciful.
(9103) Take, from their wealths, charity, to cleanse them , and to purify them with it, and program/condition them, truly your programming/conditioning (is) tranquillity/security for them, and The God (is) hearing, knowledgeable.
(1087) And We inspired to Musa and his brother that you provide to your people with Egypt, houses, and make your houses focal points, and maintain the programming/conditioning, and announce good news (to) the believers.
(1187) They said "You Shu'aib, does your programming/conditioning order you that we discard what our fathers served, or that we do with our possessions what we want, truly you are the clement , the correctly guided."
(11114) And maintain the programming/conditioning at (the) edges (of) the day, parts from the night; truly the goodnesses eliminate the sins, a reminder to the rememberers.
(1431) Say to My servants, those who believed, "They (should) maintain the programming/conditioning and spend from what We provided for them secretly and publicly from before that a day comes, (where there is) no trading in it and nor differences in opinions/friendships.
(1437) "Our Lord, truly I resided, from my descendants, at a valley of no plants/crops at Your restricted House. Our Lord to maintain the programming/conditioning, so make hearts from the people fall to them, and provide for them, from the fruits, perhaps they be grateful."
(1440) "My Lord make me one who maintains the programming/conditioning, and from my descendants, our Lord, and accept my call/prayer."
(177 Maintain the programming/conditioning of the sun's subbing until the night's darkness, and the dawn's reading, truly the dawn's reading is being witnessed.
(17110) Say, "Call The God, or call The Merciful, whichever you call, so for Him (are) the most beautiful names, and do not publicize/declare/raise (voice) with your programming/conditioning, and do not silence/lower and hide with it, and desire between that a path."
(1931) "And He made me blessed, wherever I am, and He directed me with the programming/conditioning and the purification as long as I stayed alive."
(1955) And (he) was ordering his people with the programming/conditioning and the purification, and (he) was, at his Lord, accepted/approved.
(1959) So succeeded from after them a succession, they lost the programming/conditioning, and they followed the lusts/desires, so they will meet failure .
(2014) Truly I am The God, no god except Me, so serve Me, and maintain the programming/conditioning for My remembrance.
(20132) And order your people with the programming/conditioning and endure patience on it, We do not ask you (for) a provision/means of livelihood, We provide for you, and the end (result is) to the fear and obedience (of God).
(2173) And We made them leaders/examples guiding with Our order, and We inspired to them to do good, and maintain the programming/conditioning, and bring forth the purification, and they were to Us serving.
(2235) Those whom if The God was mentioned their hearts became afraid, and the patient on what struck them (are patient through all trials), and maintain the programming/conditioning, and from what We provided for them they spend.
(2240) Those who were driven out from their places without (a) right/justice except that they say "Our Lord (is) The God." And were it not for The God's pushing the people, some of them with some, elevated and secluded monasteries, and temples, and programs, and places of prostration, The God?s name is remembered in it much, would have been demolished/torn down, and The God will give victory/aid (to) who gives Him victory/aid, that truly God (is) strong, glorious/mighty.
(2241) Those who if We highly positioned/strengthened them in the Earth, they maintained the programming/conditioning, and brought forth the purification, and they ordered with the kindness, and they forbid from the defiance of The God and His orders, and to The God (are) the matters'/affairs' end.
(227 And struggle in the Gods true struggle, He chose you, and He did not make on you in the system from strain/hardship, your father Abraham's system, He identified you the peaceful from before, and in this. The Messenger to be a witness on you, and you be witnesses on the people, so maintain the programming/conditioning, and bring forth the purification, and hold fast with The God, He is your ally, so excellent (is) the ally , and excellent (is) the helper.
(232) Those who in their programming/conditioning they are humble.
(239) And those whom, they are on their programming/conditioning, guarding.
(2437) Men, trade nor selling does not distract them from remembering The God, and maintaining the programming/conditioning and bringing forth the purification, they fear a time the hearts and the eye sight turns around in it.
(2441) Do you see that The God, glorifies for Him whom (is) in the skies and the earth, and birds (with) expanded and motionless wings in a row? Each had known its program and its glorification, and The God (is) knowledgeable with what they do.
(2456) And maintain the programming/conditioning, and bring forth the purification, and obey the messenger, perhaps you attain mercy
(245 You, those who believed, those who your rights control, and those who did not reach the puberty from you should ask for your permission three times, from before the dawn's programming/conditioning, and when you put your clothes/garments (on) from the appearing, and from after the dusk programming/conditioning, three private times for you, a sin is not on you, and nor on them after them (the three times) circling/walking around on you, some of you to some, like that The God clarifies for you the signs, and The God (is) knowledgeable, wise/judicious
(273) Those who maintain the programming/conditioning and bring forth the purification, and they are with the end, certain.
(2945) Read/recite what was inspired to you from The Book, and maintain the programming/conditioning, truly the programming/conditioning prevent from the atrocious deeds and the defiance of The God and His orders, and The God's remembrance (is) greater , and The God knows what you perform/produce.
(3031) Returning to The God, repenting, and fear and obey Him, and maintain the programming/conditioning, and do not be from the takers of partners.
(314) Those who maintain the programming/conditioning and bring forth the purification, and they are with the end, certain.
(3117) You my son, maintain the programming/conditioning, and order with the kindness, and forbid from the defiance of The God and His orders, and be patient on what struck you, truly (is) from the matter's determination."
(3333) And dwell/ in your houses, and do not show your decoration, (like) the ignorance's showing off (of) decoration, and maintain the programming/conditioning, and bring forth the purification, and obey The God and His messenger, truly The God wants to eliminate from you the filth, people (of) the House, and He cleanses you clean.
(3343) He is who programs/conditions you, and His controllers, to bring you out from the darknesses to the light, and He is, with the believing, merciful.
(3356) Truly The God and His controllers program/condition the prophet. You, those who believed, program/condition from him and submit peacefully
(351 And no sinner bears another's burden, and if she calls (a) burdened (self) to (remove) her load, nothing from it (will) be carried, and even if it is of relations, truly you warn those who fear their Lord with the unseen and they maintain the programming/conditioning, and who purifies, so truly he purifies to his soul, and to The God (is) the end.
(3529) Truly those who read/recite The God's Book and maintain the programming/conditioning, and they spent from what We provided for them secretly and openly/publicly, they hope (a) trade it will never fail.
(423 And those who replied to their Lord and they maintained the programming/conditioning, and their affair (is by) consultation between them, and from what We provided for them, they spend
(5813) Have you (been) cautious/guarding against that you advance between your confidential talk's, charities, so if you do not do, and The God forgave on you, so maintain the programming/conditioning, and bring forth the purification, and obey The God and His messenger, and The God (is) expert with what you do.
(629) You, those who believed, if (it) was called to the programming/conditioning from the time of assembly, so hasten to The God's remembrance, and leave the selling/trading, that (is) best for you, if you were knowing
(6210) So if the programming/conditioning is accomplished, so spread out in the Earth, and desire from The God's grace, and remember The God much, maybe you succeed.
(7022) Except the programmers/conditioners
(7023) Those who, on their programming/conditioning, are continuing.(7034) And those who, they are on their programming/conditioning, protecting
(7320) Truly your Lord knows that you maintain nearly from two-thirds (of) the night and its half, and its third, and a group of people from those with you, and The God evaluates the night and the daytime, He knew that you (will) not count/compute it so He forgave on you, so read what is easy from the reading. He knew that sick/diseased will be from you, and others moving in the Earth desiring from The God's grace, and others fighting in The God's path, so read what is easy from it, and maintain the programming/conditioning, and bring forth the purification, and lend The God a good loan, and what you advance for yourselves from goodness you find it at The God, it is better and greater (in) a reward, and ask The God for forgiveness, truly The God (is) forgiving, merciful
(7443) They said, ?we were not from the programmers/conditioners?
(7531) So he did not give charity nor did he program.
(985) And they were not ordered except to serve The God, (be) those devoted to Him (in) the unified system, and maintain the programming/conditioning, and bring forth the purification, and that (is) the maintained system.
(1074) So regret to the programmers/conditioners
(1075) Those who are inattentive to their programming/conditioning.
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Peace be upon you,
Remember to take the knowledge you gain from reading and program it into your character! That is the real victory. Those who "sit at home" do not get it. You muat take these weapons to WAR and STRUGGLE to change your behavior! What beautiful similitudes!
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(17110) Say, "Call The God, or call The Merciful, whichever you call, so for Him (are) the most beautiful names, and do not publicize/declare/raise (voice) with your programming/conditioning, and do not silence/lower and hide with it, and desire between that a path."
if i may focus on this particular verse, i'd like to know more about this raising of the voice or lowering it... in what way is that meant?
'cause when i talk to God i usually do it in my head, i don't know if my voice is loud or low. -
Peace be upon you,
Yes, "voice" is not in the verse, it is really about publicizing or hiding salaat. The balanced approach is most effective.
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Woe to those who program but are heedless of thier programming!
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hey hey hey, enuff with all the programming and all that stuff confused
what does God within mean? ;D
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Woe to those who program but are heedless of thier programming!
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Makes perfect sense. People getting scared by terrifying images on Faux News and then letting the government take away their freedom to keep them safe from the "terrorists." We get brainwashed and we don't even know it.
I guess the way to control it is to not get affected by things and get emotional. If we stay free from emotion and think clearly we will not get programmed by television or music or politicians or anything.
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Who are the ones heedless of their salat? Il tell you who they are. The ones who stop the charity. They salat, but they withold from far reaching deeds.
A charity is to be brought to the salat. The contribution to the community chest is a condition of the salat.
And those who do not encourage the feeding of the poor. And they mistreat the orphan.
1071 Have you seen him who is denying the system?
1072 It is the one who mistreats the orphan,
1073 And does not encourage the feeding of the poor.
1074 So woe to those who commune,
1075 But to their communion they are absent minded.
1076 They only want to be seen,
1077 And they withhold from far-reaching deeds.Those are the ones who are heedless of their salat. Those are the ones who are heedless of their salat.
jedi
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You shall connect to your Lord, and sacrafice.
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Peace be upon you,
Who are the ones heedless of their salat? Il tell you who they are. The ones who stop the charity. They salat, but they withold from far reaching deeds.
But that doesnt make sense because they are still aware of thier bowing down on the ground...they still take heed to get on the ground...so that does not fit. God says that true salaat PREVENTS YOU from evil deeds. Bowing on the ground is proven to not be the answer by itself. The missing component is the mental prostration. That change within the nafs(subconcious) that God talks about. Remember, God says that thier wil not be a change in the condition of a people UNTIL they change what is in thier nafs(subconcious).
God Within simply means that God is closer than the jugular vein....God is the one conciousness that fully expresses Itself through mankind.
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Peace Kyle,
Zakat is a result of salat. And of them both is what a righteous deed consists.
I read the Quran in Arabic and my latest understanding is based on that, and not on translations. In the Quran, the action of salat is almost always followed with the action of giving zakat, donation, etc. It looks like if a person cannot give zakat unless he/she is doing salat. The two are closely related. So salat has to be or involve doing a righteous deed, a deed that naturally results in a positive outcome that benefits the doer as well as the world around him. In the Quran, you would sometimes read that those who are promised the paradise are those who believe in Allah, the Hereafter and do righteous deeds. Yet sometime, the words ?doing righteous deed?, are replaced with doing salat and then followed by giving zakat. So I conclude that doing a salat doing a halal work, that enables one to help others zakat, is what the righteous deed is.Salat+Zakat= A righteous deed.
Btw, I am glad you are back to Free-minds.
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Peace,
To put it in few words
Salat= Service to mankind.Woe, salat = service to God alone. Be aware of your Lord.
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I have a strong tendency to agree with the viewpoint expressed in the OP. Cognitive behavioural therapy is based on this mindset and it works! Generally our lives are dominate to the hilt by our inner desires. We are slaves to food, drugs, repressed emotions, all sorts. The winners of life are those who recognize that they are susceptible to these things, grab them by the horns and bring them out into the open where they can be scrutinised with objectivity.
Personality disorders and defects arise when one programs themselves negatively. For example, an avoidant will repeatedly tell themselves that they are worthless and useless and it slowly sinks in, over the years. The end result is a shell of a human being, worthless and useless because of their own conditioning. All addictive behaviours have a root in bad conditioning as well. Suppressed emotions, shame, etc; there is a mountain of evidence to suggest that gambling, alcoholi, sex and even drug addictions arise from this behaviour. With this in mind, how amazing is it that LSD-25, an agent that throws one into a dark room of introspection, locks the door and throws away the key until sanity is restored, is a more powerful tool for treating such behaviours than the 12-step process? Either way the worst is the schizoid condition and let it be assured that none of you want to get into that mindset
How consistent is this viewpoint though? Without even including the Quran in the picture, this technique works in LIFE! I recommend interested peeps look up "NLP" and so on (IIRC most people on here know about this). It's very very easy to take control of your own psyche, the only thing that's needed is an inner desire to actively change yourself. I wish I knew these things in childhood but it's better late than never. Some people rot in old age, still unaware of such a simple yet beautiful concept.
For me to realise this it took a tremendous kick in the rear from something which most will look down on. Much kudos to whoever (re?)introduced this concept to all, you are clearly miles ahead of everyone else in your journey. One thing engrained into my heart is that objectivity is the key to everything. If you lie to yourself, you will eventually end up believing the lies. And so another easily remedied "personality disorder" develops...
Woe to those who program but are heedless of thier programming!
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Exactly so. I'm pleasantly surprised to find this thread because I've just come out of a hell of a rut, everything I learnt is perhaps summed up entirely in this thread. If this is "salat" then there is no way it can be summarised in a few words, the more the better. eat
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How consistent is this viewpoint though? Without even including the Quran in the picture, this technique works in LIFE! I recommend interested peeps look up "NLP" and so on (IIRC most people on here know about this). It's very very easy to take control of your own psyche, the only thing that's needed is an inner desire to actively change yourself. I wish I knew these things in childhood but it's better late than never. Some people rot in old age, still unaware of such a simple yet beautiful concept.
Salaam OPF
Good to see you back, sun its been sometime since we saw firecrackers here.
Take control of your psyche you mean "nafs" its not easy but certainly possible as long as first you are ready to look deep down into your nafs.
If you lie to yourself, you will eventually end up believing the lies. And so another easily remedied "personality disorder" develops...
Or if someone else lies repeatedly, you could end up believing that, for example; Coca Cola linked to happiness was the set off of such messages which are delivered to us in the form advertizments from all directions. AND since 9/11 no one has escaped words "Islamist/ Muslims terrorist" designed to make even a rational Muslim become insane, So refer to the Qur?an's teachings avoid contact with such a proponganda and as for subliminal messages detach yourself from corrupting influences seek help by reciting surah Fathia consciously in every salah, and programing the nafs is nicely summedup by God Within in the first post .
I seek God's refuge from the evils of sneaky whisperers (surah 114, a reminder that we are all prone to it).
peace
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Peace be upon you OPF,
Havent been on here for a while, good to come back and see others verifying this through thier own experiences. PLease continue to add anything you can to this most important aspect of the righteous way of life.
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dear brother God within , i am new to this forum, and i had a lot of questions which you answered. But one thing i dont understand is it wrong to call God "Allah". It just makes me feel nearer to Him. anyway as i said you have answered a lot of questions for me May Allah swt give you paradise in this world and the next. Ameen
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Peace be upon you Mini,
Thanks for the kind words Glad you could accept the position I am presenting. Please feel free to continue the dialogue if there are any questions.
Regarding "God" and "Allah"..I use MANY terms to represent THAT which is above all names. In this reading(quran) it says that no matter what "name" you use, To God belongs the best names. Basically, I use God most because I am an english speaker and this is the universally accepted "name" in english. If I am speaking to a "sunni" or Shiite" I will use "Allah" so that I do not loose them in the dialogue. When I am with my friends who study Egyptain philosophy, I use "Neter"....etc etc. If Allah helps you to get closer, then by all means use that, but dont get caught up in right and wrong names, it is a waste of your precious time on earth.