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Why do you beleive the Quran to be the Word of GOD?

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    Putaradivi
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    My belief in god was easy, and even before I came to find the Quran I believed god was guiding me. Sometimes you simply understand when god is speaking to you. This is what happened with the Quran. Every other religion and holy texts or writings out there either left me confused, or doubtful, as to whether or not it was the path god wanted me to follow. There were even some things (like Christianity) where I felt torn, both wanting to believe some things yet reject others within the religion. While I didn't understand before why I had these feelings of being torn, I do now.

    When I read the Quran, it simply made sense. Everything that I come across, and come to understand, makes sense in a way that is not describable. Not only are the things I've always felt were right by god within the Quran, but also there were many doubts and idea's I'd previously wondered about that became clear to me. There is a verse (I'm sorry I do not remember the exact one or wording), towards the beginning, which said something to the effect that those who believe know when they hear the word of god. I just simply knew, it was that easy.

    As far as the science behind the universe goes, I was actually suprised to find that some of the mysteries were actually revealed in the Quran. This wasn't what made me believe in the Quran as truth though (I was a believer before I found these things out)... so they are more like little wonders and pieces of knowledge I'm learning as I read.

    The easiest way to answer the question though is this... God wanted me to see the Quran for myself and know that it was from God. If God had not guided me, there is no way to know where my beliefs would still be. I owe my faith in the Quran to God. That much I am sure of.

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      Ahmad_Bilal
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      Peace,

      I don't know what to say after your answer except please learn to understand English. brickwall

      I don't know what you wanted to say. But in English this quote meant that signs are not verses. Please read again all your stupid answers which you call explanations.

      rotfl Okay, guy... In your view, "ayaat" means "verses". In REALITY, though, "ayaat" means "signs". You can take it as my inability to speak English if you want; I really don't care. However, you are only demonstrating your ignorance of the ENGLISH AND ARABIC languages. In Arabic, the word "aya" means "SIGN", not "verse". Get rid of your sectarian ideologies, and face reality. You are badly mistaken if you believe an "aya" is a "verse". It doesn't matter how Rashad Khalifa or any other translators translated the word "ayaat"; it doesn't make it correct. Dr. Khalifa made fairly accurate translations of the word "aya" by translating it as "proof" or "miracle" (which is a lot better than "verse&quot, but the actual meaning of it is "SIGN". Before you call factual explanations "stupid answers", maybe you should examine your own "stupid" views on these concepts... -\ And I won't even waste my time talking about the whole "learn to understand English" comment. Trust me, I know English VERY WELL... ) What you need to do is stop relying on these sectarian Islamic Arabic dictionaries, and you need to purchase a real Arabic dictionary, or possibly take an Arabic language class. It could provide lots of help for you, since many of your ideologies on these issues are false and completely misleading. Just a suggestion. Just because a Qur'anic translation says, "These are the VERSES of a clear book..." doesn't mean the word "verses" is actually there; this is simply the translator's interpretation of the word "ayaat", which really means signs. So, the correct statement would be, "These are the SIGNS of a clear book..."

      Peace,

      Ahmad

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        khyaletanzim
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        Dear Bilal,

        Keep telling me that you know English and Arabic and also keep on telling me whatever you want to but my observation remains the same. Again the same problem just answering the same way. Half reply to my posts and ignoring the main points. Look at your hypocrisy.

        Get rid of your sectarian ideologies, and face reality. You are badly mistaken if you believe an "aya" is a "verse". It doesn't matter how Rashad Khalifa or any other translators translated the word "ayaat"; it doesn't make it correct. Dr. Khalifa made fairly accurate translations of the word "aya" by translating it as "proof" or "miracle" (which is a lot better than "verse&quot, but the actual meaning of it is "SIGN". Before you call factual explanations "stupid answers", maybe you should examine your own "stupid" views on these concepts...

        what you are saying is that Khalifa did not translated it correctly and still he is a messenger and guided? In other words you are more guided than Khalifa rotfl

        I really cant understand your what you stand for? verse is not the correct translation but it is almost the same kind of mistake which khalifa did so to me it is almost the same.

        Regards.

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          Ahmad_Bilal
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          what you are saying is that Khalifa did not translated it correctly and still he is a messenger and guided? In other words you are more guided than Khalifa rotfl

          I really cant understand your what you stand for? verse is not the correct translation but it is almost the same kind of mistake which khalifa did so to me it is almost the same.

          I'm laughing too, brother... laugh Rashad translated the word "aya" in nearly all instances as "sign", "miracle", or "proof", all of which give the same descriptive meaning. Like I said, translating "aya" as "miracle" is a lot better than translating it as "verse"; the translation of it as "verse" (plural- ayaat, or verses) is completely wrong and misleading. The word "aya" means sign, and "ayaat" means signs. Besides, Rashad Khalifa never claimed that his Qur'anic translation was infallible or divinely inspired. His translation, although I feel it is better than most of the other translations in circulation, does contain errors and misinterpretations.

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            yeshuahamashiach
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            it is BS

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              Samia
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              it is BS

              What?

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                Rami
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                Peace,

                I believe in the Quran because there was no reason for a human to write something like this. It just created too much trouble for Mohammed.

                202 We did not send down to you the Quran so you may suffer.

                Peace,

                Rami

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                  Rami
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                  it is BS

                  We will see about that.

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                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                    it is BS

                    If you are talking about the Quran, then THIS IS DEFINTELY NOT THE RIGHT FORUM FOR YOU.
                    Read a bit about the Quran and it's miracles.

                    I'll give you an intro

                    The word "day" is mentioned 365 times
                    The words "days" is mentiond 30 times
                    The word "month" is mentioned 12 times

                    The word "land" is mentioned 15 times
                    The word "sea" is mentioned 32 times
                    Let's do some math
                    32+15 = 45
                    32/45 = 71.111...
                    15/45 = 28.888.. (28.89 when rounded)

                    THAT'S THE EXACT RATIO OF LAND TO SEA OF THE EARTH - IN THE QURAN!

                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                      Rami
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                      If you are talkinhg about the Quran, then THIS IS DEFINTELY NOT THE RIGHT FORUM FOR YOU.
                      Read a bit about the Quran and it's miracles.

                      I'll give you an intro

                      The word "day" is mentioned 365 times
                      The words "days" is mentiond 30 times
                      The word "month" is mentioned 12 times

                      The word "land" is mentioned 15 times
                      The word "sea" is mentioned 32 times
                      Let's do some math
                      32+15 = 45
                      32/45 = 71.111...
                      15/45 = 28.888.. (28.89 when rounded)

                      THAT'S THE EXACT RATIO OF LAND TO SEA OF THE EARTH - IN THE QURAN!

                      Don't sweat it, only people who fear God believe in the Quran.

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                        Alen
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                        Peace,
                        Respectfully.

                        Because God has answered my prayers in a very short period of time.
                        Because it proves to be right when i look at the world around me.
                        Because i'm constantly getting info and knowledge from it.

                        Glory be to our God.
                        Peace.

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                          Rami
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                          Peace,
                          Respectfully.

                          Because God has answered my prayers in a very short period of time.
                          Because it proves to be right when i look at the world around me.
                          Because i'm constantly getting info and knowledge from it.

                          Glory be to our God.
                          Peace.

                          I know some guy who converted to Islam only because it forbids usury. We return to our Creator for lots of reasons which proves He is the Creator.

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                            yfn123
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                            You are clearly showing your ignorance in basic mathematics, regardless of your level of education. 1+1=2, always and forever.

                            Nah.... I would say 1+1=10 rotfl

                            Anwar Azim

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                              Rev_John
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                              Nah.... I would say 1+1=10 rotfl

                              Anwar Azim

                              It all depends on what you are counting. If it is 1 ant + 1 anteater then 1+1=1. or, if the ant is poisoned, then 1+1=0

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                                yfn123
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                                I was counting in binary system.... 10 is actually 2.

                                Anwar Azim

                                It all depends on what you are counting. If it is 1 ant + 1 anteater then 1+1=1. or, if the ant is poisoned, then 1+1=0

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  I was counting in binary system.... 10 is actually 2.

                                  Anwar Azim

                                  Yes it is, that took me back a few years! rotfl

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    if it wasn't the word of ALLAH why is there a great "religious" following? people are dedicating their lives to islam living and dying as only followers.....seriously?

                                    do you really have to ask this question?
                                    i understand if you didn't picture the whole
                                    may ALLAH guide the believers.

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                                      Student_of_Allah
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                                      Shalom Aleikhem,

                                      if it wasn't the word of ALLAH why is there a great "religious" following? people are dedicating their lives to islam living and dying as only followers.....seriously?

                                      do you really have to ask this question?
                                      i understand if you didn't picture the whole
                                      may ALLAH guide the believers.

                                      Logical fallacy in your reasoning Argumentum ad populum.

                                      From wiki "In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people&quot is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or most people believe it. In other words, the basic idea of the argument is "If many believe so, it is so.""

                                      As Bill Maher would put it This is the logical equivalent of saying "Eat shit!! 20 trillion flies can not be wrong""

                                      And about people being dedicated and even dying Isn't that the same for virtually all religions? Forget religion, let me give you one example for now. Do you know about heaven's gate cult? These people believed in aliens and actually carried out a mass suicide for that. There are many such cults. So what? Now their beliefs are true as well?

                                      PEACE
                                      ------------- Student of Allah

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                                        Yamibato
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                                        Besides all those,
                                        it is a very practical book... rarely you may find a religious book like Qur'an to be practical in this age.

                                        So that definitely makes me love that book even more ❤

                                        Peace.
                                        Yami.

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                                          JavaLatte
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                                          So that definitely makes me love that book even more ❤

                                          Very nice statement!

                                          Peace.

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